I already suggested that you do Hoist naked. Your phone would be ringing off the hook!

So wait, this isn't a latex fetish group getting together?

Where did you get the idea that seven and eight year old girls are normally interested in sex?

One PETA girl I knew was essentially asexual

I can imagine how this went down.

Ace: So, uh, can I have your phone number?
PETA girl: No.
Ace: You must be a lesbian.
PETA girl: No...look, whatever.
Ace: Yeah, I think I figured it out. Nevermind. Sorry.

Yeah. And if ace hadn't stormed off in a huff, she would have invited him to her eighth birthday party that Saturday.

I think they need to wrap that cellophane a little tighter.

I'll cherish the mental image of the two PETA airheads I work with jumping up and down clapping and screaming "PONIES! PONIES! PONIES!", evven as I'm forced to stifle laughter during the next staff meeting.

Absolutely perfect.

It's made of people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ponies...hahaha

There is a difference between being serious and being earnest. Conservatives are serious and liberals tend to be earnest.

I just hope those are free-range people they're serving. Those cubicle-raised people are sooo gamey.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Come to think of it, that much plastic and styrofoam couldn't possibly be good for the environment.

Can't these PETA people make their point about the commercial potential of long pig without endangering wildlife?

I had a roommate who wrote poetry for the Animal Liberation journal at our school. Eventually, he disappeared - shortly after a mass "liberation" of research hamsters. I am not making this up. Last I heard, he was fighting the confused fight for the ALF.

One of the best times I've ever had in a college class was watching vegans and vegetarians duke it out over whose beliefs were more 'pure.'

That one argument almost made up for the fact that our professor made us read 'Ecotopia' and a book on ecofeminism.

"the normal interest in sex that usually strikes at about age seven or eight just seemed to pass her by completely."

Are you reckoning this in NAMBLA years?

Ecofeminism?

Can't say that I've had the pleasure of hearing the details of that particular form of intellectual masturbation.

Phinn,

It was pretty freaking bad. One whole semester of watching my professor, sensitive ponytail man, try to explain the following:

Ecofeminists believe there are interconnections between the oppression of women (sexism), the oppression of other human Others (racism, classism, ageism, colonialism, etc.) and the domination of nature (naturism).

He said it was possible to "f**k the earth."

He got really mad when a couple of us asked him whether that was just taking environmentalism too far.

Shortly after moving to the San Francisco Bay Area,
I was invited to a dinner party by one of my new co-workers. When I arrived, I went to join some colleagues enjoying drinks out on the patio.

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

This is all too typical of life on the left coast. These peta types are everywhere.

It's painful just to hear about it secondhand.

What's an "ovo-lacto vegan?"

Wait, no, I don't want to know, actually...

Didn't their mamas warn them about plastic bags?

Looks like a bunch of Darwin Award winners in the making.

As long as we're talking ALF. . . how about a video of a kid beating up ALF?

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Maybe if they offered fillets?

I LOVE PETA people...especially when they're rolled in flour and fried...they taste like chicken.

Thanks to LauraW (third from write under the saran wrap).

Hmmm, so laruaw is the one with her legs open and the big label on her crotch? What does that tell us?

Sad little person you are, shinola.
You should go to the Humane Society and save a dog's life.

Pfft. These get-naked-for-the-liberal-cause women are all talk and no action.

Sorry, but I stopped being curious a long time ago. Because every time I read something about some lady liberal getting nekkid for The Cause, it's one of two situations:

1) She's a late-40 or early-50 ex-hippy who, after I see her, start looking for a spoon so that I could gouge my own eyes out.

or

2) Yeah, she's cute (or cutish), but either the camera is so far away that I can't get a decent look, she's turned away hiding all the good parts.

Either way, both are disappointments.

lauraw

I'm not the one with my legs open and a label on my crotch in plastic wrap.

Iis amazing how full of shit feminists really are. They scream about the exploitation of women's bodies for commercial purposes and then what do they do for their "pet" causes? I marvel at how they can be so full of shit.

"Shit from Shinola" (a very appropriate nickname) -

That's not really LauraW in the picture. Ace was being, oh, what's the word? "Sarcastic". Yeah, that's it. And you are... what's the word? Oh, yeah, "an idiot."

Log Cabin

"I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

It must be really difficult for a gay Republican out there on the Left coast. I live in Texas and feel like I'm surrounded by insane Liberals! Texas is not as conservative as many would think, and nowhere near as conservative as I'd like it to be and I came here from the northeast!

But LC know that you are the vanguard of the future and that as with all things, when it comes to Liberalism, this too shall pass.

Xoxotl

What do you give a shit? But you're right, it's not lauraw in the picture with her legs open and a label on her crotch, it's you mother and she looks the same as the last time I saw her.

PETA

They're fucked up in so many ways, it's hard to know where to start.

How do they breathe under that shit?

Heh heh! Funny, SfS! How long did it take you to Google up that witty comeback?

"I LOVE PETA people...especially when they're rolled in flour and fried...they taste like chicken."

It's best to use real lard though, as they tend to be kind of dry and bland, and vegetable oil just doesn't have the taste of good old pig lard.

What bothers me here is the hypocrisy of PETA. Sure, they can equate animal meat with humans, but where are they when millions, if not billions, of insects are killed every day by careless or sadistic humans? It should be PETV, People for the Ethical Treatment of Vertebrates. Our spineless ancestors deserve ethical treatment too! Look out where you put those enormous feet, you killers! Walking is murder.

-This message brought to you by People Against Eating and Moving.

Mmmm...lard...

mmmm, killing bugs with big stomping feet... yum

As long as the bugs killed are spiders...I hate spiders.

Didn't ALF crave cats? Oh, sorry...thinking of the TV series. Never mind.

Those who abdicate their place in the food chain are fair game.

I think we should all pause a minute and pay tribute to all of our fellow posters who generously provide a home to grateful colonies of assorted crotch varmints.

He who gives freely and unselfishly of Him/Herself is truly Blessed...

Slublog wrote:

What's an "ovo-lacto vegan?"

Wait, no, I don't want to know, actually...

Sure you do.

I've usually heard it "lacto-ovo vegetarian", but it's the same thing. It refers to vegetarians that eat dairy products and eggs (think of "lacto" as in "lactate" for milk and "ovo" as in "ovulate" for eggs).

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

Though I wouldn't frame it quite that way, I personally think that's an interesting discussion. I'd frame it more as a question of hypocrisy. While a lot of people adopt vegetarianism because they don't want to be responsible for the suffering and death of animals, most of them continue to eat eggs and dairy products. When you really start looking at the production of eggs and milk, though, it turns out they're virtually inseparable from the meat industry. Look at eggs for example. Yes, female chickens can lay infertile eggs with no males present, so no animals are dying there...until they let some eggs get fertilized for the next generation. At that point you now you some unwanted male chickens, and most of them are going to be turned into meat. The same issue exists for milk cows, but it's even worse because cows have to give birth periodically so that they can be milked, and most of those offspring will also end up on a table. Not to mention that if you're worried about animal suffering in addition to death then egg/milk animals probably aren't treated any better than the meat animals.

So I guess I can respect a vegan for at least being consistent and less hypocritical, even if I think it's a serious health risk.

That stupid blockquote bug bit me again. Log Cabin's quote extends for a second paragraph.

Maybe the closing italics tag somehow ended the blockquote. All I know is I hit this bug now and then, but I usually type my message in Notepad and copy and paste, and so I am able to check it, and it looks correct to me (and previews correctly, too).

Let's try it again, just for fun. Testing:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.
End test.

Hmmm...that screwed up again. At least it's consistent.

Same test, without the italics:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

Same test, with italics, but with a word after the close of the italics in that paragraph:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive." test

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

Still screwed up. I see the Slublog quote I had also was screwed up. Is it the quotation marks?

Test:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive.

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

End test.

I think it's the line break that ends HTML.

OK, I give up for now. I know I've posted multi-paragraph block quotes before, but nothing seems to work now. It previews fine but then truncates at the first paragraph when I actually post it.

Bizarrely, it seems to be the "Log Cabin wrote:" right above the blockquote that's messing it up. If I start the blockquote on the next line, it puts a br tag in there, and that seems to make the mu.nu software for some reason move the closing blockquote tag to the end of the first quoted paragraph. If I start the blockquote two lines down, it uses a p tag instead, and everything is OK except for for some reason it puts a blank line at the end of the quote.

For example, here I'll start the blockquote on the line after the "wrote" line:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

Now here I'll start the blockquote two the lines after the "wrote" line:

Log Cabin wrote:

The first snippet of conversation I heard was (I shit you not): "I'm now a strict vegan, because I felt being an ovo-lacto vegan was a bit too exploitive."

I thought this airhead was making a joke until the others there began to nod knowingly. I immediately went to the host and made my apologies about not feeling well and that I needed to leave.

Go figure.

Anyway, sorry to hijack the topic to debug this quoting problem, but it's been driving me batty for some time so I couldn't help myself. At least now I have a workaround (and maybe Ace can pass the bug onto mu.nu or whoever does his comment software...at the very least it shouldn't preview one way and post another).

Now, where were we? Something about naked vegetarians wrapped in plastic I believe....

digitalbrownshirt wrote:

[ link to site explaining how PETA euthanizes many more former pets than it places in homes ]

They're fucked up in so many ways, it's hard to know where to start.

I agree that is quite creepy. PETA is pretty much against pet ownership, so I think they see it as they don't want to spend any money placing these pet animals in homes when it's cheaper to euthanize.

Hey, if they're so against pets that they're not going to lift one finger to help somebody's former pet find a new home, then I guess it's their right to have that attitude. But then they should not run a pet shelter! That's the creepy part -- that they pretend they're going to help Fido find a new home when they really have no intention of doing so. If they just said, "We're not into the whole pet thing, so we're not getting involved", then at least I could respect their stand on that one particular issue.

While we're on the hypocrisy subject, many PETA types are staunchly pro-choice. But if you read PETA literature on why they object to killing animals, they say that merely because it's a being that feels pain is enough reason. And yet third-trimester abortion doesn't seem to phase them.

Bob,

Dude, you have got to get your obsessive compulsive behavior under control. First, you put way too much thought in the whole lacto-octo-whatever vegan thing. They are all whacked. Second, give the damn black quotes a rest. Who gives a shit. We all got your point. There's no reason to make those of us who may agree with you hate you.

real sign seen in a seattle food coop

"Our free-range chickens are not forced outside"

Sheep are actually a form of ambulatory kelp, so it's quite legitimate for a vegan to eat them.

Ace,
Your comments remind me of a Howard Stern episode where they had some PETA chicks on. Obviously they were scantily clad and had to take off their clothes and do other Howard Sternish stuff. Anyway, Howard tried to hit on one who was very cute. She hadn't gone out on a date in over a year (since she became active in PETA) and hadn't had sex in at least that. Which just goes to prove your point. Get involved in PETA means you don't have a functioning sex life and taking your clothes off in front of strangers is more important then actually being a person.

As a vegetarian conservative, I view PETA's helpfulness to animal rights issues in much the same way I view James Dobson's usefulness to the Republican Party. Both do much more harm than good for their causes.

The PETA people are true airheads. Sean Hannity's girl Friday "Flipper" is a really good example of this. Though she's pretty (in a sort of a vapid, low class, Long Island kind of way) she's as dumb as dishwater and even less informed. OTOH I have long felt that I'd pay a little more for meat that I knew had been humanely treated.

Mike, glad to see I'm not the only vegetarian conservative around.

As a vegetarian conservative, I view PETA's helpfulness to animal rights issues in much the same way I view James Dobson's usefulness to the Republican Party. Both do much more harm than good for their causes.

Uh, I need to nitpick here and point out that James Dobson delivers *VOTES* to the Republican Party, in every election, maybe not directly as Jerry Falwell used to, but the man has got *A LOT* of influence. Yeah, his strong Christian faith makes Christie Todd Whitman and feel all icky, but it's not like she's bringing anything useful to the table, anyway.

Meaning no disrespect to conservative vegetarianism.

Where did you get the idea that seven and eight year old girls are normally interested in sex?

Pay no attention to ace, he's just projecting...

Sigh.

I'm listening to the news this morning....is Howard Dean the most wonderful man that ever lived or what?
I just love him.

Karl Rove is somewhere listening to the latest quotes over and over again in an endless loop, and pleasuring himself.

OregonMuse,

I don't disagree that Dobson brings in votes for Republican candidates. But then again, Howard Dean got some people to come out and vote for him, too. The problem is that these sort of politicians alienate a good amount of potential voters every time they appears on TV, and do more damage than good for their side. Dobson's not a burden on the Republican party because he's a Christian; he's a burden because his rhetoric is both unpersuasive and nutty (compare him to the smooth-talking, calm Ralph Reed, who has religious credentials as good as Dobson but can debate an issue without looking like a nutcase).

Makes me want to get a big juicy hunk of grilled bison, moose and some deer.....

Carnivores unite!