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August 12, 2005
A memo for Cindy Sheehan.I'm not articulate enough to help you understand why your son died doing the job he volunteered for. Instead, I will let a Sunni Muslim in Baghdad do the honors. Take it away Mohammed. posted by Tanker at 09:34 PM
CommentsSuperb post. "His blood didn't go in vain; your son and our brethren are drawing a great example of selflessness. In tears. Posted by: lauraw on August 12, 2005 10:27 PM
I wish we could just bombard the woman and the moonbats with this memo. Any ideas how to go about it? I would like to see people outside the Crawford ranch distributing this, and photos of the mass graves, and all the other atrocities, that we put an end to. Let's throw in some photos of those hundreds of children who were blown up by terrorist bombs only because the went to get candy from the American soldiers. Someone should throw together a pictorial of every atrocity in Iraq and title it, THIS IS WHY, CINDY. Posted by: on August 12, 2005 10:27 PM
She's just another victim, August. An attention-needing woman, who has been hijacked by shallow people who won't be her friends anymore when her 15 minutes are over. I feel sorry for her. Posted by: lauraw on August 12, 2005 10:30 PM
The mothers, grasping at the dirt for their children. God help them, comfort them, bring them the justice that they beg from You. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on August 12, 2005 10:45 PM
I don't know how Bush does it. There is no compensation large enough to be the world's pinata. Posted by: on August 12, 2005 10:58 PM
Liberating 50 million people over 3 years is probably compensation enough for Bush. Not to mention all that sweet sweet pipeline/war profiteering money from Halliburton and the Carlyle Group. Posted by: Moonbat_One on August 12, 2005 11:29 PM
Yeah, here's to all that sweet, CHEAP crude. (We didn't lock in to an early price on our home heating fuel this year) Posted by: lauraw on August 12, 2005 11:33 PM
Dear Mr. President, How can you ignore the suffering of the families of our fallen boys in a faraway land? You don't have any idea what it is like. You were born into wealthy family and have had all the comforts that money can buy. You never had to serve a day in combat yourself. Yes, we were attacked a few years ago, but not by these people. The links between them and the fanatics that killed thousands of innocent Americans are tenuous at best. While they are nominally allied, there is NO evidence of any operational link behind the attack on American soil. Mr. President, you have imprisoned thousands on flimsy evidence and denied due process and delayed trials, all on the premise of "protecting" the American people. These prisoners are kept in virtual concentration camps. How could you send our military planes to bomb innocent civilians? To rain death and destruction down on innocent women and children who have the misfortune to live under a government with which you disagree? Are they all just "collateral damage?" Do we have the right to depose every dictator that we don't like? So they have a record of attacking their smaller neighbors and exterminating there own minority populations, are we supposed to be the world's policemen? So I ask you again, President Roosevelt, how could you send our boys to die in Germany, a country that never possessed WMDs and never attacked us? Posted by: Log Cabin on August 12, 2005 11:41 PM
I reject the notion that her loss/grief gives her some sort of position of moral superiority over people who think that the war was justified, her posiotn that we should close up shop and go home Posted by: mbranca on August 12, 2005 11:48 PM
He died for Bush's personal war. The invention of a Jihad for "freedom" is just a slogan for the simple minded sheeple idiots. Its too massive an undertaking to keep track of all the lying, disinformation and deceptions used by the vile filth that has taken power in the US. Best of all the Bush idolators with their leftist ideology don't give a damn. Some idiot who is probably a DIA officer comes up with a sermonette. AHA! To our keyboards the brave soldiers of imperialism cry. Do the world a favor and slit your own throat. Posted by: just pete on August 12, 2005 11:58 PM
Pete - you are indeed a pretty "sorry" individual. Posted by: on August 13, 2005 12:08 AM
Bush idolators with a leftist ideology? There's secret agency called the DIA? Gosh, maybe I have been naive. I could at least be more brave, like someone who doesn't leave an e-mail address and suggests people kill themselves. That's courage, man. Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 12:09 AM
Ace, you are on F'ING FIRE! This is fantastic. After reading about this, and the Weekly Standard round-up of the numerous links between Iraq and terrorism, and the Able Danger story, and the Mary Jo White memo to Gorelick, and on and on and on... I'm wondering WHY isn't the Bush Administration shoving this down our nation's throat? Why isn't the State Department calling prime-time news conferences, complete with witnesses, reports, huge, blown-up charts and graphs, press packets, etc. to LAY THIS SHIT OUT??? Why isn't our Republican-controlled Congress holding press conferences, and hearings, to publicize this? Why in the hell is Bush allowing roughly HALF of our country to think there is no link between Iraq and terrorism? You know, if Clinton was running things, he would have people out there 24/7, pounding the message home, until the polls turned in his favor. Why doesn't Rove see the obvious? Why isn't Rove controlling the message? Why isn't Rove educating the nation? How can this administration be so dense and just plain INEPT when it comes to COMMUNICATING a SIMPLE MESSAGE: Iraq = terrorism Plain and simple. Don't mention WMDs. Don't mention Iraq 9/11. Don't talk about anything else. Every good debater, attorney, public speaker, politician, etc. knows one simple rule: Find the one issue you can totally destroy your opposition with and repeat it until the vast majority of your audience supports you. The WMD issue is a loser. The Iraq = terrorism issue is a runaway winner. How this White House can allow opinion polls to be so low is baffling. They have more than enough ammunition. Use it, dammit. Sorry to take up so much bandwidth, but I'm disgusted. Posted by: Dogstar on August 13, 2005 12:15 AM
I could at least be more brave, like someone who doesn't leave an e-mail address and suggests people kill themselves. And in such a bad way. Slitting my own throat? NO THANKS! Posted by: Bill from INDC on August 13, 2005 12:18 AM
P.S. Great post, Log Cabin. You had me going up until the last sentence. Excellent point. Posted by: Dogstar on August 13, 2005 12:19 AM
First of all, grief should not give one a blank check to act shamefully in public peddling lame canards with cheap theatrics. Secondly, I have to admit I bristled when I listened to her heatedly say to Bush in one of her speeches "How DARE you invoke my son's name to talk about some noble sacrifice?!" As if she owned the legacy to her son. Her adult son. Her adult son who of his own free will joined the military with the full knowledge of going to Iraq, and who, the other family members have claimed, was eager and happy to do so. Posted by: Russell Wardlow on August 13, 2005 12:20 AM
Yeah Bill, you're right. As a cowardly effete keyboard warrior, how am I supposed to locate, much less wield, a blade, especially against myself? Might I suggest the phrase would have been "go forth and choke on your own hegemonist gluttony." Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 12:25 AM
That's just it. For Cindy Sheehan (or her handlers), this isn't about her son. This is about HER. Casey Sheehan's sacrifice is now a fig leaf for her narcissism. Why is her grief is all that the media cares about? What about Casey's father? He doesn't count, as far as they're concerned, because he doesn't have an agenda. Posted by: UGAdawg on August 13, 2005 12:37 AM
"Ma'am, we asked for your nation's help and we asked you to stand with us in our war and your nation's act was (and still is) an act of ultimate courage and unmatched sense of humanity... Humbling. God bless Iraqis like this gentleman. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 02:09 AM
Hubris, Yes, there is an organization called the DIA Defense Posted by: Moonbat_One on August 13, 2005 02:25 AM
Thanks Moonbat One. I was drunk; shoulda looked up the acronym. When the paranoids would swarm Jeff Jarvis months ago with SoA/ITM theories, they always revolved around the CIA (built on the fact that the guy who had given domain names to several Iraqi bloggers ran his own business called CIATech...actually, never mind, it's a long and silly story). Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 10:09 AM
In a few weeks the Cindy Sheehan story will disappear, along with the lefty loonies that have attached to her like the bloodsuckers they are. Their concern for her is obvious , as long as they can use her to attack the President she has value. When the value subsides they toss her aside and look for the next emotionally unstable individual that fat, smelly geaseball Moore can manipulate. You Democrats are all the same. Gutless, pathetic sheep that have no brains. Get with it, the billionaire leadership of your party uses you to get their power. When they don't need you, they discard you just like they will Cindy Sheehan. Posted by: Ron LaCanne on August 13, 2005 10:56 AM
Amendment I to the Constitution guarantees her right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government with her grievances. Assuming she is being manipulated by the far left is just that, an assumption. Perhaps her assertions should be taken at face value. Accusing her of dishonoring her son or using his death to accelerate a political agenda are disingenuous arguments that can be heard on any far right radio program. By that standard, Megan's Law or the Amber Alert are the exploitation of tragic deaths to further a political agenda. His death is political. The war is political. Tha maniacal rantings on both sides are political. Please tell me what noble cause Dear Leader is promoting as justification this week. Anyone fomenting negative opinion of Ms. Shhehan is also using politics to their advantage. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. Does anyone else wonder why the magnetic ribbons found on cars throughout this great country state the admonition, "Support the Troops", instead of "I Support the Troops"? Who among us, unlike Ms. Sheehan, her son, and their peers, has had to sacrifice anything for this war? Carpal tunnel syndrome does not count. Posted by: Wake Up America on August 13, 2005 11:16 AM
While Ms. Sheehan certainly enjoys the rights you describe, neither she nor you are using them to best effect. Rambling complaints combined with ill-formed schemes for redress have resulted in a pointless slathering of one woman's incoherent grief across the media. That the left has taken up her cause is as pathetic as her condition. The one point of potential discussion buried in your comment lies in a soldier's death. I would say that the regulars here do *not* feel that his death was originally, or should be, political. That it has become so is the sole reason the right has paid any attention to this matter. And that you apparently believe it to be part of the natural order underscores a fundamental difference between the left and the right. Posted by: Geoff on August 13, 2005 11:37 AM
After all the back and forth on this woman, I'm starting to reach the conclusion that stoic silence would have been the better response to her display, instead of the lashing she has gotten. We should just...leave this one alone. Posted by: lauraw on August 13, 2005 11:38 AM
It's nice that Amendment I applies to me as well. I just don't think Sheehan's loss increases the weight of her arguments/opinions. She doesn't seem to be looking for "answers to questions" from Bush. Gutfeld's Chief Brody Slap seems like a more accurate description. Yes, she'll continue to protest, as she has every right to do. And yes, I'll still be able to take her or leave her (at least until I develop CTS), because her loss doesn't act as a magic shield. Ain't America great? Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 11:40 AM
"You are free to go and leave us alone but what am I going to tell your million sisters in Iraq? Should I ask them to leave Iraq too? Should I leave too? And what about the eight millions who walked through bombs to practice their freedom and vote? Should they leave this land too? Is it a cursed land that no one should live in? Why is it that we were chosen to live in all this pain, why me, why my people, why you? But I am not leaving this land because the bad guys are not going to leave us or you to live in peace. They are the same ones who flew the planes to kill your people in New York. I ask you in the name of God or whatever you believe in; do not waste your son's blood." I'm crying so much I can barely see. Shut up. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 11:41 AM
All of you. Just. Fucking. Shut. Up. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 11:41 AM
Megan, I'm sorry, but please don't tell me to shut up. You can look away if comments are bothering you. Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 11:45 AM
Fuck off. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 11:57 AM
Thanks! Let me get this straight: I can't talk about Sheehan because of her loss, and I can't talk about ITM because of the Iraqis' losses and because it's making you cry. Let's just pack up this Interweb thing and go home. Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 12:03 PM
"I can't talk about ITM because of the Iraqis' losses and because it's making you cry." Yes. Glad you understand. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 12:07 PM
Nope, I'm consistent in that regard. I don't think folks' emotions give them the right to own the conversation, whether it's Sheehan, ITM, or you. Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 12:12 PM
[smirks] Not a problem. You were nothing more than an excuse for me to test Laura, who's on AIM with me right now. Thanks for your service. Posted by: Megan on August 13, 2005 12:20 PM
I'm not articulate enough either, But Mohammed is. Posted by: Dave in Texas on August 13, 2005 12:21 PM
You're welcome. Continue with diabolical machinations. Posted by: Hubris on August 13, 2005 12:25 PM
"Do the world a favor and slit your own throat." You first, Pete. Posted by: File Closer on August 13, 2005 12:42 PM
Dogstar, I feel ya. However, I think the Bush administration has pretty much settled on "misunderestimation" as a PR strategy. They know they can't win the messaging war because there's just too much oppositional counter-fire. Can't start a fire underwater and all that. So they just go about their business, giving the opposition enough rope when it suits them (Plame, Gannon) and generally not trying to draw attention to themselves except when they are confident they can win a particular battle. The SS campaign was a notable exception and look where it got them. No, the only way a Republican, non-McCainite administration can flourish in this day is something akin to Tai Chi. They know the opposition will waste its punches given half a chance and so they provide that chance at every possible turn. Thus the ratio of Dem/MSM "own goals" is very high. Unfortunately this only provides for a "negative" messaging, in that the message is still ultimately in the MSM frame . THAT'S the shitty part. Posted by: tachyonshyggy on August 13, 2005 01:27 PM
Great post. I linked to this letter too. You should hear the things she says now, that the Iraq war was fought for Israel & that the Secrete Service is trying to kill her & the protesters. This woman in being manipulated by a group of sick people. It's very sad how they are taking advantage of her. She is clearly ill & needs help. Posted by: NYgirl on August 13, 2005 09:27 PM
Hey, Wake Up - people who are truly grieving don't seek to develop extensive 7x24 entourages of moonbat strangers looking to leverage that person's media exposure in to their own media exposure (which being the most extreme of the extreme moonbats, they would have been denied lacking a more populist proxy) Posted by: on August 14, 2005 12:26 AM
NY Girl , This is the nature of the hard left. They've been operating this way since the 60's. Moonbats is as moonbats does - Forest Gump Posted by: on August 14, 2005 12:29 AM
Shut up. Just shut up. You had me at hello...you had me at hello. Anyway, the Roosevelt post was terrific. Posted by: Ace on August 14, 2005 08:52 PM
Ummm, that wasn't me. Posted by: ace on August 14, 2005 09:27 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. So, we can assume that Log Cabin doesn't actually have you at hello? The Roosevelt letter was pretty good though. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on August 14, 2005 09:55 PM
Hey Cindy, if your son died fighting the Nazis, would you be supporting the Nazis? Your pathetic misguided fool Posted by: Ted Kennedy on August 31, 2005 03:09 AM
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