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August 13, 2005
Not "Historically Significant:" 9/11 Panel Spins Able Danger OmissionThe Sept. 11 commission concluded that an intelligence program known as Able Danger "did not turn out to be historically significant," despite hearing a claim that the program had identified the future plot leader Mohammed Atta as a potential terrorist threat more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the commission's former leaders said in a statement on Friday evening. Seems sort of significant to me. The statement said a review of testimony and documents had found that the single claim in July 2004 by a Navy officer was the only time the name of Mr. Atta or any other future hijacker was mentioned to the commission as having been known before the hijackings. That account is consistent with statements this week by a commission spokesman, but it contradicts claims by a former defense intelligence official who said he had told the commission staff about Able Danger's work on Mr. Atta during a briefing in Afghanistan in October 2003. This is horrible spin. First of all, it shouldn't matter even if the name were only mentioned once. The entire purpose of the 9/11 Comission was to determine what went wrong in our intelligence-gathering, and a single mention of Atta being identified as a terrorist in 1999 or 2000 should have prompted a lot of research. Can you imagine a post-WWII commission being told that an intelligence officer had intercepted a cable saying "We strike Pear Harbor in 12 days," and the commission later saying, "Well, gee, we didn't delve into that any further because we were only told that once." I'm glad there's a disagreement on this point, because a disagreement provides the impetus for lots of hours of Congressional hearings on this point. And, as small a point as it is, it provides drama, as it becomes a "Who's lying?" deal. Hey, sometimes you need sizzle with your steak to get the attention of the MSM. The Sept. 11 commission report made no mention of the unit, disbanded in 2002, and the statement by Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton defended that omission, saying the operation had not been significant "set against the larger context of U.S. policy and intelligence efforts" that involved Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. We'll see how much investigation they actually put into coming up with this conclusion. More... From TKS and Captain Ed. Both hit upon something curious. The 9/11 has gone from insisting it never heard of this information at all to now claiming they heard of it but thoughtfully considered it and found it not to be "historically significant." Which is it, guys? I suppose the obvious answer is "both," in this sense: the Commissioners never heard of this at all, but their staffers decided it wasn't "historically significant." Well, I know the bona fides, such as they are, of Kean, Hamilton, et al. I don't know who these staffers are at all, if they're young lawyers fresh out of Georgetown or very experienced intelligence analysts, or a mix of both. And I don't know which of these staffers made these decisions. The information does not appear to have been widely shared. So, which staffers exactly made the decision to spike this information and shield the Commissioners from it? The very fact that they decided to spike this information, and conceal it from the Commission, makes me doubt their prudence. And, quite frankly, their motives. Surely this is big enough that it should have been considered by the actual Commissioners, and either included in or excluded from the report according to their expertise (such as it is). posted by Ace at 01:26 PM
CommentsIt's funny that the MSM seems to accept the commission's discounting of a single Navy officer's statement, but accepts Joe Wilson's statements as the final say on the Iraq-Niger deal. Posted by: Geoff on August 13, 2005 01:52 PM
I hate the phrase "historically significant." It's a fact. A fact that shd have been included and considered. Posted by: on August 13, 2005 02:01 PM
Another thing - Steyn's story about Johnelle (sp?) Bryant was criticized because it put Atta in the US before June 2000. The Navy officer also puts him in the US before June 2000. Perhaps the derision directed at Steyn should have targetted the commission instead. Posted by: Geoff on August 13, 2005 02:02 PM
I expect Dan Rather will be all over this like white on rice. Posted by: SWLiP on August 13, 2005 02:28 PM
From the interview with Bryant: BRIAN ROSS: And, when did you first meet someone who you say is Mohamed Atta? What happened? JOHNELLE BRYANT: I met him somewhere between the end of April, around the third week of April to the third week of May of 2000. BRIAN ROSS: Somewhere in that... JOHNELLE BRYANT: Somewhere in that general area. I can't pinpoint it down any more than that. That timeframe, prior to the visa entry date of 3 June 2000, undermined the rest of her story. But now we have the Navy Officer : "According to the commission, the officer said he briefly saw the name and photo of Atta on an "analyst notebook chart." The material identified Atta as part of a Brooklyn al Qaeda cell and was dated from February through April 2000, the officer said." The 9/11 Commission discounted this story because it also put Atta in the US before his visa date of entry. But now the two stories corroborate (to an extent) one another. This could be reasonably big news. Posted by: Geoff on August 13, 2005 02:41 PM
Sometimes I just get so frustrated with America. Are we really so petty and self-absorbed? Properly defending ourselves and confronting islamofascism is a matter of life and death. We have no time to waste on squabbling and finger-pointing. I cannot believe that the 9/11 Commission was turned into a partisan points-scoring circus. So now maybe the right will get some points in retaliation. Great. Fine and dandy. But as a US citizen I'm becoming increasingly angry at the fact that much of my government simply isn't taking these matters seriously. They're playing political games while people are dying. I don't know what my point is. I'm just angry and disgusted. Mostly at the left, but a little at the right, too. Posted by: SJKevin on August 13, 2005 02:44 PM
The 9/11 Commission was never anything but a nifty stage, a convenient excuse for politicians to get the attention they crave. Its all a dumb show. Posted by: lauraw on August 13, 2005 03:15 PM
...though that makes it funny, that they managed to f*** themselves anyway. You had to be a Big Shot, didn't ya? Posted by: lauraw on August 13, 2005 03:41 PM
I lean to "both" myself. After all, part of the job of staff is to decide what is important enough to pass up the line vs what to just pass up. And I can see "Hey, this guy says he may have seen info that Atta was here in 2000: any confirmation?" being responded to with "Nope, and the FBI says he couldn't have been here that early." Posted by: John Anderson on August 13, 2005 04:23 PM
Contrast these two bits of information: 1. A report by an intelligence agent who supplies a specific name. Not "historically significant." 2. A presidential daily briefing that supplies no names, no dates, no methods, no sources. "Historically significant." Which one does the MSM spend more time discussing? Why, the one that makes Bush look bad, of course. Posted by: Sobek on August 13, 2005 04:26 PM
Weasles is as weasles does - Forest Gump Posted by: on August 13, 2005 04:48 PM
The 9-11 comission screwed up and are now in the full speed ahead CYA mode. With the help of the left wing media they will suceed in burying the latest information. No one on the left including the media types wants to know what Socks Berger stuffed in his shorts. I do, because if it comes out it will burn Slick Willie and the Weasel again. What did they know, and when did they know it. The death of 3,000 people on 9-11 now rest on their heads. Posted by: scrapiron on August 13, 2005 08:15 PM
So are we now using data mining to catch Terrorists now? Or just doing PC tactics only. Posted by: Anthony Lee on August 13, 2005 08:27 PM
SJKevin, I've perceived a lack of seriousness about destroying our enemies all along. It's so important for the decent people like President Bush to be given a free hand and all possible encouragement to secure us. The alternative to the Bush Administration, who are such nice people, isn't the Democrats, who are even nicer. If the nice people show they're not up to the job of securing us, then those of us who are without decency, who want to wage war without restraint, are waiting for our turn. Such nations as Israel, Japan, and the European nations have had the U.S. guaranteeing their security, but also standing over them and keeping them placid. But there's no one either to guarantee the U.S.'s security or to keep the U.S. placid. If the U.S.'s electorate put real hawks in office sometime in the next few years, there won't be anyone to stand over the U.S. and say "no." Arafel Posted by: Kralizec on August 13, 2005 09:10 PM
Anthony, I believe the project was canceled in 02' due to "privacy concerns". Which of course is complete BS. The last thing the govt wants to waste database capacity on is maintaining records of non-criminal, non-terrorist mundane tripe about grocery purchases, inexplicable collections of old Shaun Cassidy records, subscriptions to Hot Lesbian Dawrfs, etc. If some "solid citizen" looked to be developing a rather extensive ammonium nitrate collection and they happened to live in an urban condo rather than a 500 acre farm, then maybe that should cause a few discrete inquries to be made. Posted by: on August 14, 2005 12:19 AM
Anthony, I believe the project was canceled in 02' due to "privacy concerns". Nah, they just changed their name to HARVEY Danger and put a record out. You know... "I'm not sick, but I'm not well... Blah blah blah blah... To live in he-ell..." "Paranoia, paranoia, etc." Posted by: Dogstar on August 14, 2005 01:02 AM
You know, with this sort of political garbage going on in DC to undo all the work we try to do out there in the great wide open, I somedays wonder why the hell I bother. Posted by: SGT Dan on August 14, 2005 09:34 AM
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