Ace, last sentence: change "lool" to "look"

if anyone wants to.. say.. read an entirely amusing story about just what ace is describing...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0330314971/qid=1122398478/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-7299701-5059224?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

just pick up this!

oh - sorry - Focaults Pendulum... to a T - is what Ace is talking about. And the Kozmonots are apparently doing it well!

Ace,

I bet the joos made you write this. Was it the zionist hair-rays, or did you do it voluntarily?

Just trying to get at the deeper truth...

Don't hate the playa, hate the game

Anyone catch the history channels deal on the free masons? WOW thats quite a deal, exactly what ACE is talking about here. It's so convoluted that Clinton, Kennedy, the arabs, Peter Jennings and both Bushes are all on the same side.

Double tap

Bender,

I read that when it came out.

Wow, I took a look at the comments over there! A bunch of true believers that would say the sky can't be blue if Karl Rove is the one who said it.

if you havnt read it in that long you need to do yourself a favor and skim it again... its just unbelievable...

of course - the first time I read it I was 18... so ... re-reading it actually means something.

You are succumbing to an intellectual vanity, and a very foolish one at that. You wish to believe you "know more" than the average citizen. You're better informed, more enlightened, more clever, and more open-minded about the "real truths" of the events of the world. And you demonstrate this supposed intellectual superiority by postulating "secret knowledge" the public is either too stupid or too cowardly to see with their own eyes.

Absolutely correct. It's the easy version of being a Nietzschean superman. Rather than asserting one's superior essence through the will to power (requiring real action and struggle), it's asserting one's superior essence through one's superior beliefs. Further, any challenge to those beliefs reinforces how special the belief holder is, as in this world view challenges to the beliefs affirm the challenged and denigrate the challenger. ("You're just spouting what Fox News tells you to! Open your eyes!")

Satan wouldn't be so chubby. He'd look more like, I don't know, Iggy Pop or something.

Ace, that's just what I want you to think.

Bwuhaahaaahaaa!!!

Ace,

Year ago, while in Manhattan I was walking behind this very strange looking guy.

It was August, the weather was hot.

He was about 4' 10", long greasy hair.

He was wearing purple velvet pants, lizard boots, and a long black coat.

As I passed him, I saw that underneath his coat he wore a skin-tight white shirt.

85 pounds, maximum.

Puny and scrawny, sunken eyes and cheeks.

He looked up at me and I smiled.

"Iggy, what's up?"

He smiled back, and said "Hullo".

The.Prince.of.Darkness.

He should eat more often.

Ace, you a poor, deluded fool! All you people need to wake up! The Illuminati run the entire world and they've been doing so for thousands of years! There's not a thing that happens in public policy in any country in the world without THEM controlling it! It's a vast, far reaching secret society with hundreds of thousands of members strategically placed in all levels of society! Of course the Freemasons, Skull & Bones, & the Jews are involved - but only as "fronts" to misdirect the gullible! Now, the whole thing got started on the lost continent of Atlantis, of course. Here's what happened - oh wait there's somebody at the door, I'll let you digest this and I'll be right back.

I'll have to find a copy of that Focault's Pendulum. I may have encountered it before but been put off by its title.

Here is what I thought of when I read Ace's latest post, in particular his remark about the lefty pattern of religious/cultish thinking. Tribalism is where it's at.

The only time I've ever pretended to be smart was when I wanted Becky Norman to let me get my pinky stinky in ninth grade biology class. I told her it would turn litmus paper whatever her favorite color might be. Turns out it made my pinky so stinky that it probably would have made the litmus paper grow scales. I've been content to be stupid ever since.

"...when I wanted Becky Norman to let me get my pinky stinky..."

I know its shallow and juvenile but I couldn't help letting out a big old guffaw! LOL!

No, Satan would look more like Vincent Price. A class act all the way. Suave, debonair, sophisticated, worldly. Definitely in the cocktail party circuit, in the loop. He doesn't spend hours at the office, that's for minions.
He's the rainmaker, bringing in the new clients.

That's Satan.

Fanx Brew : )

Karl Rove is a minion. He's high up, Vice-President for Forecasting and Analysis, or something like that.
But still just a minion.

Update: Or maybe like David Niven. Anyway, Satan's smooth. Really good.

No, actually I look just like Brad Pitt. Except prettier. And taller.

Karl is just one of my minions.

Satan

Mo?

Dear lord, most of this post is a dead-on description of Gnosticism. Fortified with the USDA daily requirement of humor, of course. But Gnosticism all the same.

Perhaps Rove runs a super sekret breakaway konspiracy in competition with the Illuminati. Whereas the Illuminati comprises a super-select set of Jews pulling the strings of goyim puppets in governments and corporations throughout the world, Rove's neokon konspiracy comprises a super-select set of Jews pulling the strings of goyim puppets in the U.S. government and U.S. corporations. The lefties all think Rove is such a genius when the true cogniscenti know that he's just an embittered franchisee ripping ideas off his former franchiser. They need to just calm down, ya know?

How does the Trilateral Commission figure in all this?

Sorry, I just got back. I understand now that there is no such thing as the Illuminati. No.Such.Thing. Nevermind. Move along now. Nothing to see here. Move along...

I love how you can just see the writer of the Kos post coming to his conclusion (Rove, Plame, Wilson, TXANG docs are all related) and working backwards, always assuming that what he wants to be true fits into the Kospiracy. Classic.

Fitzgerald MUST extend his investigation to the TANG Forgeries--if only to show that Rove, Bartlett and the White House had nothing to do with it.

He must then extend his investigation to the assassination of JFK and the leak of the Pentagon Papers--if only to show that Rove, Bartlett and the White House had nothing to do with it.

Conspiracy-mongering is alive and well in the sinistrosphere. It's regarded as pure crank by the right side of the blogosphere.

Ace, the right side of the blogosphere should from hence forth be known as the "dextrosphere". Is that too geeky?

Hm, maybe it is...

Ace and Monica,

Dextrosphere is too geeky.

How about crankosphere?

Or Satanosphere?

Or how about McHalliNaziChimpBurton RovEvil NeoZionConJewBastard It's-All-Bush's-Fault No Blood For Oiiiiiiiiiilllll!!!! Jane Fonda-a-Trois It's-the-Jews-Fault-Sphere?

...

Too long?

...

BTW, when did the Left become inveterate anti-Semites?

Wait, don't answer that.

I don't want to know the answer.

...

Did I mention that I saw Iggy Pop on the street in Mid-Town Manhattan?

And that he is indeed without any subcutaneous fat whatsoever, and despite this, his greasy hair and questionable wardrobe, is the diminutive-yet-powerful Prince of Darkness?

And this is coming from the side of the blogosphere that was so keen to believe that Vince Foster was murdered?

You're just pissed because Karl's dirty tricks are catching up with him....but if you had any intellectual integrity, you'd admit that the slime artist is a traitor, too.

Does anyone here watch American Dad?

There is an episode where the main character, Stan (who works for the CIA), is trying to win an election to a church position.

In his great zeal to win, he calls in Karl Rove to help him, who pops around like a demonic priest. He always appears in a puff of smoke and disappears in a burst of smoke and a cloud of bats. At one point, he's invited to enter the church but is shocked by an electric barrier at the doorway.

Some people have criticized Seth MacFarlane's politics in his cartoons lately, but this is the perfect caricature of how the left views Karl Rove.

Nah we're not the dextroshpere.

We're the Destrosphere.

Source of all evil, arms merchants and secret sponsors of terrorism.

"...if you had any intellectual integrity..."

Uh hah, uh hah haaa...*let me wipe the tears of mirth from my eyes..*

Oh that's rich. Who celebrates a guy who tortured and murdered the wives and children of his political opponents? They even make T-shirts of the guy to broadcast their mass-murdering lefty creds? (Che Guevara)

Who still stands by Castro while his people suffer and dissidents are murdered and imprisoned in places so horrible you can't imagine?

Who thinks that genocide in Kosovo is bad, but 'dissident cleansing' in Iran and Iraq is Okey dokey?

Who thinks Israel's inhabitants should be swept into the sea?
Who stood by Stalin in the massacres? Who pardoned the FALN? Who let Bin Laden slip through his fingers? Who thought the USA deserved the catastrophe of 9/11?

You did, baby! You did baby!

"if you had any intellectual integrity, you'd admit that the slime artist is a traitor, too."
A traitor?

A TRAITOR?

This from the party that whines "don't question my patriotism" if you so much as look at them cross-eyed? I thought all men of good will realized the charge of traitor was one that required the most serious corroborating evidence.

That is, of course, unless you're a Democrat. Then you can pretty much throw charges of treason around with insouciant, Marcia Brady-like aplomb.

In any event, ibw (if that is your real name), any representative of the party that numbers Alger Hiss, the Rosenbergs, Aldrich Ames, John Walker Lindh and the Lackawanna Six among its members ought to be a little careful about who it wishes to refer to as "traitors."

Note to Kossacks:

Occam didn't use a Norelco.

Not to knock religion, or suggest that the devil isn't real, but let's say he isn't. Let's just assume, for the sake of this analogy, that he is a fictional construct created by the human imagination.

Satan is quite real and resides in Chappaqua, N.Y. after fucking up this country for eight years.

ACE - The best Satan I ever saw was Gabriel Byrne in Arnold Schwartzenegger's End of Days.

Brilliant conservative analysis here. We need more of this acumen just like we need higher debt, less health care, more corporate corruption, more terrorists, more war, less nation security, more treasonous acts, more bike riding around the white house, more vacations in Crawford while reading "Bin Laden Determined To Attack US" memos, more stonewalling for the 9/11 commission, more stonewalling of the government's relationship with Enron, more paid shills acting as journalists, more idiotic nominations to international institutions, more nepotism, more cronyism, more lying, more pollution, further aggravation of the Green House effects, more allegations of illegitimate offspring against opposing candidates, more pointing out of gay reporters, more empty bravado, more mispronounced words, more nonsensical sentences, more smirking, more excuses, less accountability, more people who never fought a war wearing military uniforms and more people who never defended the country ordering teenagers to kill and be killed.

Oh yeah, and an extra hole in the head. (Which many of our young have already received.)

Wow, Joe! You really have "issues" to deal with. BTW, are you the father of Michael-the-molester who got away with it this time?

"Wait, don't answer that.

I don't want to know the answer."

And yet, you shall. Assuming you ever visit this thread again.

Even a bloviator like me wouldn't claim to know how, say, the French revolutionaries felt about Jews, but certainly by the mature socialist movement of the 19th century the left had at best an ambivalent view of The Chosen.

Yes, lots of Jews, as Cedarford loves to point out, were big old commies - both as a percentage of the Jewish population, and in some countries even as a % of the "movement" itself.

But Jews qua Jews present a big problem to "socialism as it exists." Their identity/community proved harder for Stalin to atomize than others' - Jews are parochial, sectarian, centripetal, all things good "international progressives" are supposed to hate. Look at Venezuala - Chavez, as he swells into a DicTatorTot, is beginning to bump up against the Jews. Or look at Stalin, The Final Days.

Marx himself was the juncture of a lot of this. Self-hating? Oh, a little.

/bloviation

"And this is coming from the side of the blogosphere that was so keen to believe that Vince Foster was murdered? "

The "blogosphere" was 8+ years in the future at that point. And I was all of fourteen. So zip it.

Since it's just me in here anyway ...

finally got my well-meaning, but very Scandihoovisocialist, grandparents to admit that Hiss might - might - have been guilty after all.

But he meant well, don't you know.

Hiss guilty, says who? And what does it matter anyway? We should've elected him president! The important thing is that he was on the right side and meant well, not like the Halliburtonbushhitlerchimp.

Ace:The Uultimate Conspiracy Line

"So ,you see Bond,even as a younger and presumably less knowledgable scientist I fore saw many of the problems my older collegues had missed.Problems such as population explosion,pollution,out of control nuclear arms and even the possiblity the sun may nova in millions of years leaving the earth a cold dry husk.And,with my logical,scientist's mind I saw the one clear solution to all these problems."
"And that is"? replied Bond, knowing the answer already,but somehow compelled to ask.
"We have to kill all the Jews"

It's not mine,altthough I wish I were that clever.It's from an old parody of Israel Bond ,agent oy oy seven that appeared decades ago in Playboy