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June 07, 2005

Kerry's Grades Worse Than Bush's For Three Years

A lot of people concluded Kerry's grades must not be so hot since he wasn't revealing them and no one at Yale did, either.

Our suspicions were correct.

But of course he has an excuse:

In his Navy application, Kerry made clear that he spent much of his college time on extracurricular activities, including the Yale Political Union, the Debating Association, soccer, hockey, fencing, and membership in the elite Skull and Bones Society. Asked to describe nonschool training that qualified him for the Navy, Kerry wrote: ''A great deal of sailing -- ocean and otherwise, including some navigation. Scuba diving. Rifle. Beginning of life saving." He said his special interests were ''filming," writing, and politics, noting that the latter subject occupied 15 hours per week.

With all due respect, Scholar Bush also spent an awful lot of times pursuing extracurricular activities -- including Skull and Bones, of course, and being president of his fraternity -- but the press didn't seem especially eager to credit Bush for that. He was a dummy, pure and simple.

The fact of the matter is that the high-born do not go to college to become standout scholars, by and large. (Unless they're especially gifted and especially driven.) Middle-class kids need to get good grades, as those are the entre into professions otherwise denied to them.

Our country's nobility goes to college largely to network, establish the social skills that will be their primary skill-set later in life (in business, in politics, in... doing very little except living off trust funds), and, of course, to screw around and have fun. Which is part of why everyone goes to school. But the high-born think they can screw around a lot more than the average student and still walk out of college with a low GPA and yet almost unlimited career prospects, and, of course, they're right.

You wouldn't slam an athlete for deciding his best career path was athletics. (Or at least I wouldn't; it's a rational economic decision, even if a risky one.) Likewise, there's little sense in slamming the noble-born for pursuing the non-academic path through college.

And yet the media did this as regards George Bush. Kerry refused to release his grades, suggesting he was not an A student (I don't see Kerry as the modest sort), and the press did not dig.

IIRC, Bush's grades were not released with his permission but rather leaked. Oddly enough, no one at Yale felt the need to leak Kerry's sub-optimal grades.

Shockingly enough, one of Kerry's highest grades (and yet still not all that good) was in... French.


posted by Ace at 12:55 PM
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Al Gore's grades weren't that great either. No one really made a big deal of it during the 2000 election. I was wondering why.

Posted by: Petitedov on June 7, 2005 01:12 PM

One might be tempted to think that there is some sort of slightly leftwardly leanings in the mainstream press corp to account for this. Excuse me while I tighten my tinfoil hat to keep those kinds of thoughts from getting in.

Posted by: Enas Yorl on June 7, 2005 01:22 PM

In defense of both of them, Ivy League grade inflation is an issue (not that I'm exactly complaining, I benefited from it at Harvard in the early '90s). A "C" in the '60s would have been a lot more respectable than the same mark now.

Posted by: Hubris on June 7, 2005 01:30 PM

As I understand it, "Social Networking Vets for Truth" is claiming that Kerry has vastly overstated his extracurricular activities and that the award of certain trophies is highly suspect.

(In Kerry's defense it should be pointed out that the group's membership is made up almost entirely of individuals who served on other hockey and debating teams and not directly with Kerry himself.)

Posted by: planetmoron on June 7, 2005 01:31 PM

Thanks as always for the link, Ace!

I didn't even notice that stuff about being too involved in extra-cirriculars like "sailing" and the "beginning of life saving."

Did the records say anything about his flying wonder dog and if he was on any of the sailing or life saving adventures?

Posted by: Aaron on June 7, 2005 01:32 PM

Monsieur Douchenozzle was supposed to be fluent in French--having summered there as a youth-- and the best he can muster is a C.

I wonder if he took beginning livesaving so he could do a better job of diving for interns than Teddy?

Posted by: spongeworthy on June 7, 2005 02:05 PM

Note the article says "on a par" and "virtually identical" without ever coming out and saying "lower" or "slightly lower". If Kerry's GPA had been infinitesmally higher than Bush's, who doubts that the Globe would have taken every opportunity to label it "higher" or "slightly higher"?

Posted by: someone on June 7, 2005 02:08 PM

I know part of his extracurricular did not involve sex unless it was with himself based on the picture that was posted on Drudge.

Posted by: Dman on June 7, 2005 02:32 PM

Holy crap, Lurch has nothing on young John Kerry.

Posted by: Nathan on June 7, 2005 03:50 PM

"First he pulled strings to get into my class. He was supposed to pass a physical for this PE Session, but was able to talk his way out of it. Then he failed to show up at all towards the end of the semester. I would have given him an F but he don't need the greif. Make sure not to have him in any more classes."

-recently uncovered faculty private records given to me buy this guy named rico down at the docks who swears he got it from a concerned citizen who works at yale

Posted by: err head on June 7, 2005 08:42 PM

Er...

"...noble-born..."?

Posted by: Andrea Harris on June 7, 2005 09:06 PM

A while back, Clinton stalwart Lanny Davis had an opinion piece in the LA Times where he recalled his time at Yale alongside Bush. He warned that anybody underestimating W was only setting themselves up for a fall because Bush, in Davis' opinion, only got middling grades for lack of effort and not lack of ability. Just getting passing grades from Yale in those days was well beyond the average college student.

The Kerry folks could have gotten this directly from Lanny Davis during the campaign but OTOH, the Clinton inner circle was regarded as not wanting Kerry to win in order to open things up for Hillary in '08.

Posted by: Eric Pobirs on June 7, 2005 10:02 PM

Holy CRAP, HOW DID that monstrosity known as Kerry EVER get laid? Gad, I thought the man was at his ugliest NOW. Barfola.

Later,
bbeck

Posted by: bbeck on June 7, 2005 10:07 PM

Lucky for him, he eventually grew into his head.

Posted by: Dogstar on June 7, 2005 10:18 PM

Chose one to take your daughter out? shame on Mr Bush telling porkies about his grades, really did he think we would be fooled by his claims of c grade when really they were B???

Posted by: chris Edwards on June 8, 2005 08:05 AM

In his Navy application, Kerry made clear (lied about) that he spent much of his college time on extracurricular activities, including the Yale Political Union and the Debating Association, (getting stoned every day and talking shit about the government)

soccer, hockey, fencing, (peeked through hole in girls locker room and jerked off while the teams were changing) and membership in the elite Skull and Bones Society (bribed way into a meeting before being rapidly ejected)

Asked to describe nonschool training that qualified him for the Navy, Kerry wrote: ''A great deal of sailing
-- (as evidenced by the recent famous pictures of Kerry trying to windsurf and capsizing into the drink) ocean (bottom) and otherwise, including some navigation (got lost at Cape Cod). Scuba diving. (looked at scuba in store) Rifle (fucked around with a bb gun one day). Beginning of life saving." (conned co-ed into letting him try out "life saving" techniges-got slapped when he tried to slip her the tongue)

He said his special interests were ''filming," writing, and politics, noting that the latter subject occupied 15 hours per week. (trying to rewrite PT 109 to star himself as the intreped skipper who saved the day and was wounded by dangerous shrapnel from a bottle of Tequila he dropped).

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on June 8, 2005 11:40 AM
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