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March 02, 2005

Stampede: Now the Guardian UK?

And by Jonathan Freedland, no less.

For those of you who aren't familiar with this, err, specimen's work, he's a viciously anti-American leftist hack.

Ilbis tips to this piece:

The war's silver lining

We need to face up to the fact that the Iraq invasion has intensified pressure for democracy in the Middle East

Jonathan Freedland

Tony Blair is not gloating. He could - but he prefers to appear magnanimous in what he hopes is victory. In our Guardian interview yesterday, he was handed a perfect opportunity to crow. He was talking about what he called "the ripple of change" now spreading through the Middle East, the slow, but noticeable movement towards democracy in a region where that commodity has long been in short supply. I asked him whether the stone in the water that had caused this ripple was the regime change in Iraq.

He could have said yes, insisting that events had therefore proved him right and the opponents of the 2003 war badly wrong. But he [graciously] did not.
...

But if he had wanted to brag and claim credit - boasting that the toppling of Saddam Hussein had set off a benign chain reaction - he would have had plenty of evidence to call on.

He then recites all the countries of the Middle East now moving towards either freedom, democracy, or peace. I won't bore you-- you know what the globe looks like. It's round and it contains a lot of orange and yellow and green countries.

Once in a while a pink one, although I'm sure there's always some hurt feelings about that.

And then he blah, blahs his disclaimer that none of this is necessarily due to, or speeded by, the historic elections of 30 January.

Let's skip through that wordcount-padding hedging.

Even so, it cannot be escaped: the US-led invasion of Iraq has changed the calculus in the region. The Lebanese protesters are surely emboldened by the knowledge that Syria is under heavy pressure, with US and France united in demanding its withdrawal. That pressure carries an extra sting if Damascus feels that the latest diplomatic signals - including Tony Blair's remark yesterday that Syria had had its "chance" but failed to take it and Condoleezza Rice's declaration that the country was "out of step with where the region is going" - translate crudely as "You're next".

Similar thinking is surely at work in the decisions of Iran and Libya on WMD and Saudi Arabia and Egypt on elections. Put simply, President Bush seems like a man on a mission to spread what he calls the "untamed fire of freedom" - and these Arab leaders don't want to get burned.

This leaves opponents of the Iraq war in a tricky position, even if the PM is not about to rub our faces in the fact. Not only did we set our face against a military adventure which seems, even if indirectly, to have triggered a series of potentially welcome side effects; we also stood against the wider world-view that George Bush represented. What should we say now?

First, we ought to admit that the dark cloud of the Iraq war may have carried a silver lining. We can still argue that the war was wrong-headed, illegal, deceitful and too costly of human lives - and that its most important gain, the removal of Saddam, could have been achieved by other means. But we should be big enough to concede that it could yet have at least one good outcome.

Second, we have to say that the call for freedom throughout the Arab and Muslim world is a sound and just one - even if it is a Bush slogan and arguably code for the installation of malleable regimes. Put starkly, we cannot let ourselves fall into the trap of opposing democracy in the Middle East simply because Bush and Blair are calling for it. Sometimes your enemy's enemy is not your friend.

Um, that last sentence would seem to mean that Mr. Freedland is just twigging on to the possibility that Al Qaeda and brutal and backwards ME regimes are not necessarily his "friends" just because they're Bush's (his enemy's) enemies.

But let us not be churlish. That was a pretty manful admission. That had to sting.

George Bush, Cowboy, is finally roping up these doggies and driving the herd home. Yee-how!

Correction: I initially said that Lileks had fisked one of this guy's sneering pieces about Georgia. Well, it wasn't Freedland -- it was a Deadwood named Matthew Engle (oh, what a giveaway!) -- and it was actually about Alabama.

See-Dubya tips me to the article; it's here, and it's worth reading. It's hysterical.

None of this is related to Jonathan Freedland, really, except both of these mutants work for the Guardian, and both hate you. Yes, you.

Here's the part that still sticks out in my mind:

Engle, being all pissy about the Olive Garden he's eating at in Birmingham, Alabama: And from the Olive Garden it does seem very distant. Indeed, the whole messy and diverse concept of Europe seems very distant. Around Birmingham, there is nothing but miles and miles of Alabama.

Lileks: Apparently around Birmingham England, there is nothing but miles and miles of Belgium, Thailand and the Antarctic Ice Shelf.

Ohhhhh... snap!


posted by Ace at 08:34 PM
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I think this is the one you're thinking of, but it's not about Freedland and it's about Alabama:
http://www.lileks.com/writings/screed/olivegarden.html


But it is an absolute classic. Been a year since I've read it and I know exactly which one you meant.

Posted by: See-Dubya on March 2, 2005 08:47 PM

Fisking? Bah. Everyone knows you haven't been taken apart at the seams until you've been "Gannoned".

Posted by: Jack M. on March 2, 2005 08:52 PM

Thanks, See-Dub. Great article.

Posted by: ace on March 2, 2005 08:58 PM

Freeland et al still don't get it. The movement toward democracy is a wonderful thing and is certainly a step in the right direction but it isn't the point of the Iraq invasion, it's a side effect.
Bush's gamble is more daring than that although, oddly, it was a risk-free gamble.
Bush clearly sees that the alternative to a change in the central dynamic of Islam itself is a full-fledged war of civilisations. Bush knows that there is no demand nor incentive to that change coming from within Islam, quite the opposite. He further understands that we can't afford to wait for the Islamic equivilent to Martin Luther to come along, nor could the world afford the kind of upheaval that came with the Reformation, not in the middle of the world's gas station.
In light of the 1500 American KIA and the large numbers of WIA it might seem jarring that I claim that Bush's gamble is risk-free, but the reality is that if Bush had done nothing at all those casualties would merely be pushed down the road a little bit, made worse by the lack of combat experienced Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen.
If Bush's gamble fails the Veterans of the Afghan and Iraq campaigns will be the cadres for the divisions, fleets and air wings we'll need when we end up having to fight all the effing Muslims in the world.
We're probably thirty to fifty years from knowing if Bush's gamble is fully or partially successful. It will be fully successful if we are done fighting militant expansionist Islam. It will be partially successful if the fight continues to be limited and piecemeal. It will be a failure if it's all out war between what's left of the West, the Anglosphere, and all Islam.
Sorry for the length, Ace, a real writer could say this in two paragraphs, Jeff Gannon in two sentences.

Posted by: Peter on March 2, 2005 09:40 PM

Brilliant. Insanely brilliant. Stick a fork in your skull brilliant. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: ArrMatey on March 2, 2005 10:34 PM

Ace, you are en fuego today. Amazing posts.

Posted by: gail on March 2, 2005 11:23 PM

Thanks. I'm well aware of my hit-and-miss quality.

Posted by: ace on March 2, 2005 11:32 PM

Peter,

Jeff Gannon could communicate all that in just one Clint Eastwood squint of his eyes.

Posted by: ace on March 2, 2005 11:32 PM

Thanks. I'm well aware of my hit-and-miss quality.

My sister does this--takes a compliment as an indictment of her prior efforts. It concerns us so we're having her children taken away.

We really need to get you out for beers.

Posted by: spongeworthy on March 3, 2005 08:50 AM

Peter

What color are the sunsets on your planet?

Even John Stewart disagrees with you.

Posted by: jreid on March 3, 2005 10:07 AM

This is good news, perhaps the liberal(more communist)press will catch on (the press, populated by "intelligent" folks must really know the truth) but dont hold your breath, maybe the tude of democracy will reach europe, we are fast becoming the new USSR (how does the USSE sound-too honest perhaps?) I really miss Private Eye, it was the perfect foil for the Gaurdian(ironic name that!)

Posted by: Chris Edwards on March 3, 2005 11:00 AM

Peter, good post.

You hit it right with the idea that this could be a full-on war of civilizaatinos. In fact, Bush or no, it will continue to be one. It has been one for the last 1300 years.

Read Islam's Bloody Borders for a historical view of this phenomenon.

At best, what we can do is halt the spread of Islam and confine it to it's current borders or even move it back in some areas. But until that change comes, Islam remains at perpetual war with the Dar al Harb.

FYI, Islam already had its Martin Luther, a man by the name of Ibn al Wahhab---father of the murderous ideology that's at war with us now. Wahhabism was a return to "the Book" the Koran, the sola scruiptura of militant islam. Wahhab told his followers that the only acceptable interpretation of Islam came from the Koran and the Hadiths (stories of the life of Mohammed, piss be upon him), and ijtihad, or "interpretation" of the koranic text was sinful. Ijtihad is similar to the Catholic tradition of Aquinian rationalism (i.e. the world could have been made over several billion years if that is where honest scientific inquiry leads us, because who can know what is a day to God?). With the loss of rational interpretation, Islam became a reactionary and brutal code of living.

The famed moderation of Islam historically came from ijtihad. Without it, one is left with the brutal bare muscle and sinew of a militaristic, political, and expansionist "fighting faith." We're going to be at war with this until it changes or we lose.

Posted by: hobgoblin on March 3, 2005 01:09 PM
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