You like those overhyped HBO shows?

I've all lost respect for you... OK, 40%.

Yikes. "all lost"? Loose shit indeed.

Ace, Ace, Ace.

Ace.

My man, did you think you were dealing with Unitarians? Or Episcopalians?

Please.

This is the Religious Right you're talking about here.

I'm sure you're familar with that factual expose of our operating methods by Dan Brown, right? The Da Vinci Code? Where we sent out our crack Opus Dei Inquisition troops to kill everyone who said "the dude next to Jesus looks a little bit, er, feminine"?

Tip of the Iceberg, man. You're in so deep you don't even know.

And Ted Stevens? US Senator Ted F'n Stevens, OK? Let's just say Ned Flanders, he ain't. No sirree, Bob. Him and Pat Robertson--two of the greatest influences of the religious right, I must say, we hang on their every word--they play for keeps in this game.

So come on Ace, don't go all squishy on us now. Don't be all "But Ted Stevens won't let me watch Wild and Beautiful on Ibiza". How else do you expect us to meet our goal of eliminating all nudity by 2012?

I mean, we're all conservatives here. We believe in incrementalism. You can't expect us just to do this all at once!

And I don't just mean on the air. I mean in your home. No nudity. You'll have to soap up the faucet in the shower so the sight of your own nakedness doesn't cause any impure thoughts. But that comes later.

Now our exalted Defender of the Faith, the major religious right papal-type figure Ted Stevens, is trying to be nice about this and ease it in a little bit at a time. No Red Shoe Diaries this year, no Showgirls at Blockbuster next year, no group locker rooms or Turkish baths after that...

We're trying to be nice about this, and this is the attitude you cop with us? I mean, we relax on the whole conversion-by-the-sword thing, and everybody starts thinking we're soft.

US Senator Ted Stevens from Alaska is not going to be pleased, Ms. Anderton, I mean Ace. You know what he's going to do about it?

He's going to pray for you. And this guy is one mean prayer. Direct line to JC, I'm tellin' you.

And I'm going to be praying for you too. So watch out, and get your head in the game, and away from those grainy cathode ray tubes that feature tawdry glimpses of an unclothed Sylvia Kristel.

I'm glad we had this talk, son. Senator Ted says it's time for me to say good night now. And I don't want to displease US Senator Ted Stevens.

Ted Stevens is basically a demi-god where I come from. Leave him alone.

Besides, Skinemax softcore isn't anything that'll be missed.

How smart do you have to be to be elected Senator from Alaska, for pete's sake? Or, to be fair to Alaska, just about any other state.

These guys know how to win elections in their home state, period. They don't necessarily know how to win national elections, let alone how to govern the entire country well. They're not CHOSEN for that ability.

Pity, then, that with the demise of the enumerated-powers doctrine, they have the power to govern just about everything in this country.

But honestly, I think the moonbat lose-the-war Left's stupid statements will out-stupid Senator Bluestocking any day of the week. There's hope.

Senator Ted Stevens should take a long walk off of a short pier. The contents of my cable visiion are none of his business. Cable does not use the public airways, the rational for the FCC. Neither is cable interstate commerce. If Stevens doesn't like Sex and the City, then he should not subscribe to it, free choice.

The cliche used to be that Republicans wanted to control your bedroom and the Democrats wanted to control your wallet. Now, it seems like the Republicans still want to control your bedroom and the Democrats still want to control your wallet, but the Republicans are starting to eyeball the wallet also.

Ace--

Perfectly said.

I hate all the smut and sex out in the open-- not only does it coarsen society, it cheapens my pornographic experiences in private.

BTW, glad to see someone else appreciates Cocksucker Creek as much as I do. Great show!

Cheers,
Dave

Steve,

Not much, you're right. But Stevens is smart. Harvard JD and WWII vet and he has done a mind-bogglingly fantastic job in advocating Alaska's interests to the Congress. So I like him.

The other senator and congressman, yeah, not much there.

Up to now I've had nothing in particular against Sen. Stevens, Moonbat_One, but let's face it: bragging about senatorial smarts is a bit like noting that Christy Turlington is the wisest of our nation's supermodels. It may well be true, but where's the bar on this?

Smart or not, Stevens is promoting an awful, awful idea here. And I would feel every bit as strongly about this if I were actually dating anyone.

I'm with you, Ace. I don't much care, myself, about obscenity or whatever, but I respect the right of my neighbor not to have it thrust in her face, or his kids' faces.

If you want to pay to watch smut, that's between you and any girlfriend you may have.

Time to back the religious right off on this one. If they don't want to watch it, they can either not have a tv, or not have cable, or just block the channel.

Ted Stevens IS a sharp cookie. He was a successful defense lawyer before becoming Senator, and he runs his office like a high-powered law firm.

He's also dumb as a box of rocks to think that anyone wants to have governemnt oversight of premium cable channels.

I mean, shit, it's not like you don't know what you're getting with the exteded package. Boobies. And cussin'.

People are paying $$ for that. What happened to capitalism, Ted?

I hate big government politicians of all stripes---libertines and moralists.

*Sigh* This just makes the rest of us religous conservatives look bad. This is a stupid idea on so many levels...

These days, it seems as though the only difference between conservatives and liberals is not a debate whether federal power should be used, but WHEN. Stevens' idea violates basic conservative principles and is really really boneheaded to boot.

Plus, anyone who tries to take Tony Soprano and his gang away from me gets kneecapped...

This just makes the rest of us religous conservatives look bad.

Only if we allow people to go on thinking that this represents The Religious Right (TM).

But there's really no point. Cedarford will be along soon to tell you that you're lying. You don't *really* oppose this action on the basis of a limited Central government. You secretly like it but are afraid to admit it.

See-Dub,

I think your sarcasm is misplaced. He is a Senator, after all, and he really is proposing to establish standards of "decency" for not the public square or public airwaves but for private transmissions.

Whether or not he has the power to push this through seems inapposite. It's a horrible idea, it should never have been suggested, and it undermines the argument that conservatives have been making for years, to wit: "The religious right is not all that scary. They don't want to impose their values on you; they only wish a little consideration as far as the secularists/pro-sex lobby pushing its values on them."

When a Senator begins talking about stamping out filth on private pay channels, then the left starts to sound not all that crazy at all on this point.

It's not just Sen. Stevens. Sen. McCain said on Hardball last night that he'd have to consider regulations of cable as well.

If this is serious, I will lead the riots in the streets.

However, I'm not sure that it's not just all a political ploy to strengthen the pimp hand of McCain when he runs for POTUS. And Stevens is probably just politickin' to appease his base too.

And, BTW, pimp hand is a phrase that should be used more often, IMHO.

I couldn't agree more with Ace's position on this. I've been meaning for awhile to post on the difference between defending and imposing your moral beliefs because this is something the Left fails to understand.

And it also appears that some on the Right think they have the authority to run our lives for us. Well, I say bullshit to that. Anyone, left or right, who thinks he's gonna run me over is in for a serious fight.

Whether or not he has the power to push this through seems inapposite. It's a horrible idea, it should never have been suggested, and it undermines the argument that conservatives have been making for years, to wit: "The religious right is not all that scary. They don't want to impose their values on you; they only wish a little consideration as far as the secularists/pro-sex lobby pushing its values on them."

This is absolutely right. That's why religious conservatives with any appreciation for personal freedom should be making the most noise. We have a lot to lose if guys like Stevens start becoming the public face of religious conservativism.

It doesn't surprise me if McCain is on this bandwagon - his love of "campaign finance" shows just how much he respects freedom of speech.

Ace:

I'm no fan of the religious right either, but to me this is simply striking at a target of opportunity in the culture war. They can't get the Nativity Scene back on the courthouse lawn without the ACLU coming down on them. The public schools and universities have been taken over by the loony left. Gaining that territory back is almost a lost cause. But they can hit back at Cinemax. And here in Kansas they can try to take evolution out of the curriculum. It's all completely absurd, but no more so than what the left is trying to pull these days. They are fighting crazy with more crazy. It's not without a certain perverse logic.

Deja Moo... the feeling we've heard this bullshit before. The problem with politicians is they never know when to shut up and leave well enough alone.

Whether the public actually "owns" the airwaves is up for debate as far as I'm concerned, but let's let common sense prevail. As adults, it's our job to protect children and if that means restricting our own behavior (limiting our access to broadcast TV sex) we should do it without complaint. You can't have a "right" without a corresponding "responsibility." But as for cable TV - if you want triple X in your house - pay up and just make damn sure your kids can't get to it. Simple and easy, which is probably why the professional asshats won't leave it alone. ::: sigh :::

They are fighting crazy with more crazy. It's not without a certain perverse logic.

If their goal is to piss off the country as badly as the liberals have, this is a good start.

I'm not sure how they're going to manage to pull this off anyhow. When it comes to broadcast television or radio, they have some standing. The broadcats airwaves do belong to the public and, as such, Congress does have the right to restrict how they are used, when they are used, and who uses them. They can say, not without some standing, that they're acting in "our" interests.

But with cable, they just don't have that standing. Cable broadcasts are purely private and, to my knowledge, the standards and practices there are voluntarily agreed upon and followed. You don't see nudity on most cable channels because they're pretty much agreed not to show any. Same for cussing and overt violence. It's sort of a "broadcast standards plus" where they go a little over what a network channel might, but not too far.

It's sort of a "broadcast standards plus" where they go a little over what a network channel might, but not too far.

They'll go as far as their customers both desire and are willing to accept. And this is exactly why religious conservatives don't need this kind of legislation. We stand or fall on the ability of individuals to make their own choices.

We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government.

James Madison

(T)he foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained...

George Washington

Okay, Ace, that was pretty much just a big joke post, and google bait for people searching for "Pat Robertson Sylvia Kristel Ibiza". My point there was really just that Ted Stevens, while a nice guy, isn't setting the agenda for the religious right today.

It's the fiirst I've heard of it. And I went over to the nice people at the Fundie Forum, aka Worldmagblog.com, and did a search on Ted Stevens. Got back one hit, a reference to an airport named after him.

Did a search on cable and porn--one hit, a comment on the gay MTV network. " Cable" got a lot of hits, too. But based on a quick examination, none of them were about banning indecent cable broadcasts--even the comments.

Frankly, social and religious conservatives have a lot on our plate right now. We're worried about the effort to remake marriage, we're worried about the 44-million body count post Roe-v.-Wade, and we're worried about how it's okay to starve Terri Schiavo to death when she gets inconvenient. We're worried about the ACLU's effort to banish religoin from the public square and we're worried about the skyrocketing divorce and illegitimacy rates.

Ted Stevens is lucky he has the luxury of worrying about whether Bikini Car Wash II goes out over cable. I don't think the rest of us do.

All that said, there's one correction I should make here. Cable TV is regulated. You can't unbundle packages and get just what you want, because of federal regulations. If you want TBS or HBO, you've also got to pay for Oxygen and Lifetime.

That sucks. It's a trust, and the government ought to bust it.

More here: http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/archives/006698.html

I sympathize with See-Dubya's concerns and I might even agree with some of them, but the point where I part company is when he (or his political allies) suggests that government regulation is the way to redress most of those problems. Issues of civil liberty aside, how many social problems have actually been resolved through government intervention? "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you" is a threat coming from the left or the right.

If divorce rates, etc. concern you, then work through your church to make marriage a more serious proposition, and minimize secular government involvement in the issue. If broadcast standards offend you, then buy a filter, learn where the 'OFF' switch on the remote is located, even organize a boycott.

But don't get the FCC involved, or you'll have to pry the image of Michelle Bauer's surgically enhanced mammaries from my cold, dead frontal lobes.

See-Dubya,

I agree completely about that, and I almost mentioned it in my bit, except I was already way too long.

And I was specifically going to say I resented being forced to pay for the f'n' Oxygen Network.

Oh, shit, utron said "boycott"

Where are the Virgins?

Somebody quick, hide utron's post!!!

As Moonbat One said: "Skinemax softcore isn't anything that'll be missed," amen to that. When Stevens starts going after my hardcore porn or my child porn or my snuff films, then we gotta problem!

The religious right shows they can be as goofy a pack of idiots as the Far Left - and perhaps as dangerous if they got absolute power. I don't want Savanarolas on the loose saying Sponge Bob Squarepants must go because he has "gay traits", all cable must be censored, and we should encourage Armageddeon in the MidEast to bring on the Rapture.

If Stevens wants to do something, he could loosen the grip he has on pork gobbling in the Senate and look at what most Americans really want in cable - not banning Sex in the City or Soprano episodes that Bible Thumpers object to - but looking at cable costs and choices. Cable is a rip-off, and why am I forced to pay for channels I don't want like "Oxygen", "Home Shopping Network", BET, and CNN?? Same with premium channels - my local monopolist only offers HBO with SkineMax as a package deal.

Stevens, you 81-year old old Robert Byrd style Appropriations bandit! Want to serve humanity? Enact a pay per channel Cable TV law and cap the greedy cable pig monopolists profit at 7% of gross revenues. (I'd say end the monopoly but the lawyers set up the industry with laws and legally guaranteed investment structures that assumed Cable monopoly - that would take a long time to end)

Don't try making the Republicans into the Party of Weeding Out Objectionable Things, into the Party of Censorship and Intolerance.

Close the bold! Close the bold!

I don't know why I bother, but Cedartroll, the guy (Dobson) did not say Spongebob was gay. he criticized gays for using a beloved children's character to push "acceptance" (note: not tolerance, but "acceptance") for "queer lifestyles." A bit of a difference, jagoff.

Now don't you have to go throw bacon at some Jews (sorry, "neocons") or something? Or maybe tie Ted Stevens to the neocon cabal?

Give it a rest, OK. Who cares what Ted Stevens says. Frist's about to do a folderoo on judicial filibusters and this is what you're worried about?

"Boil, boil, toil and trouble..."

"...signifying nothing."

Shakespeare is still relevant.

BTW, for those who think you can't legislate morality, the compilation of laws of a society are indeed the face of the morality of that society. Most religious "fanatics" don't want to impose their beliefs on anyone. They just don't want the lack of a socially acceptable expression smacked across their faces every time they appear in public, all in the name of "freedom of expression".

CNN, wtf?!?

So idiotic. What brand of crack is this guy smoking?

I'd say Val-U-Rite

Hugh Hewitt just reran the CNN mention of you, Ace.

Awesome.

I feel like a celebrity.

A celebrity who has no money, no cache, no respect, and who no one has ever heard of.

But still-- a star, baby!

For everyone here who has implicated the 'religious right' for being Ted Stevens puppetmaster, you're wrong.

There are factions of the religious community (right *and* left - don't forget most Catholics are Democrats) that may well applaud Ted Stevens but I can tell you from personal experience that most in the evangelical Christian community believe that encouraging people to establish a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the only way to solve issues of morality.

CedarTroll, as usual you could not be further from the truth in your understanding of the Christian doctrines of eschatology. Why can't you take your bigotry and hatred someplace else? You are a despicable human being.

While there are many more pressing needs to address in regards to the Republican congress - someone mentioned the filibuster - this is the kind of issue that has legs. The left will run with it as far as they can if they get a chance. Hence, since this would be one of those nifty high-profile soundbite issues, I dropped Senator Stevens a line. Again, I'm aware there are much more important things to deal with, but this has to be smacked down.

Thanks for the jumping-off point, Ace.

Dear Senator Stevens,

While I am not a constituent of yours, I am a citizen who has voted straight Republican ticket in the past few national elections. I read with a bit of regret that you intend to push the "indecency issue" into the realm of cable - that is pay - television.

Please understand that the current Republican majority in Congress and President Bush's reelection were due to the Republican party's appeal across a wide range of citizens' interests. Many, many Republicans and independent voters who have been voting Republican the past few elections do not share the "indeceny issue" as a main concern of theirs and, in fact, find such attempts at regulating a medium that is purchased by the consumer (this is the key to the issue - purchased willingly) to be contrary to the upholding of freedom.

You may disagree with the content displayed on some - or even most - of the channels available on cable TV. So may some of your constituents. Wonderful. Don't purchase cable TV. Period, end of discussion.

If the contituency you represent regarding this "indecency issue" continue to push for the restriction of an American's right to purchase - or not purchase - materials that constituency deems to be "indecent", I am afraid that the terrific coalition of citizens the Republican party has managed to gain for itself will dissolve and we will be facing a leftist majority in Congress in short order.

Thank you for your time.

This is so typical. What we have here is another Trent Lott type- someone that we won the election in SPITE of, not because of- trying to spend political capital that he didn't earn, and indeed has actually reduced.

Bush has such a perfect balance of respecting the religious private lives of Americans, including allowing them to participate in the public space, while still respecting the freedoms of others.

What I watch on Cable has nothing to do with you, Ted. You're nothing but an opportunistic leech that foolishly believes that our victories in the White House and Senate somehow happened because of your contributions. Your contributions suck, dude.

This is just like Lott. He thought that just because the Republicans got a lead in government that that must mean we were all on board with his redneck bullshit. Got news for you, Trent. You irritated the rednecks as much as you did the Left-and-Right coasters. You're an embarassment, and this Stevens guy is right up there with you.

Sit back and be happy for your majority, you little nobody. This mindless shit you're squeezing out has splattered all over everyone. The Left is already using your comments as a rallying cry.

But I'm sure you don't care, because this is what Christ would want, and that's what matters, right? Right?

Zero. No wonder the Left is so terrified of religion in government. With assholes like you, who can blame them?

It's so passe to compare Christian fundamentalists with Muslim extremists, but I can't get over the feeling it's impossible to get them to compromise, because they only want to answer to a higher power.

It all just makes me think... what kind of sick ass deity is the higher power of lefty moonbats?

I'm with you Ace. I've been a non-religious conservative and Republican voter all my life, and I'll fight like hell if any Republican seriously proposes something like this in Congress. Sometimes I wonder if we Republicans are our own worst enemy. Here we are, (1) rolling back tyranny across the globe, (2) forcing serious debate about Social Security, once the "third-rail" of American politics, and (3) seriously slapping around the Democrats in every poll and debate in the war of ideas, and now Sen. Stevens' big concern is what grown Americans are watching on cable TV? Jeez, someone get that man a clue.

Fox, dude, calm down. I'm sure you'll still be able to watch Lord of the G Strings Friday night. Most of those busybody Christians are too busy with that silly abortion thing right now anyway. You know them, they only want to do what Jesus wants. Sheesh. Can you believe it?

P.S. They don't act very grateful for being allowed to participate in the public spaces, do they?

SpewFan -

The Religious Right and particularly the Christian Zionists are needed in the ME. Part of Eretz Israel is being abandoned! How about you go and fight for the Gaza colonies???

CedarTroll, as usual you could not be further from the truth in your understanding of the Christian doctrines of eschatology.

More spew from SpewFan.

I agree with Squatch and others. Kindly butt out from telling people what to see or listen to. I don't care what Christian Zionists and other censoring wingnuts of the far Right deem unholy or family friendly. They can have their own opinions and doctrine - just keep it to yourselves - don't impose it on others.

The quickest way to destroy the Republicans is to let fruitcakes like Stevens and Dobson tell them what is acceptable or not. The problem with the Democrats is they actually listen to the Democrats versions of Stevens and Dobson - Byrd and Michael Moore.

As for despicable - isn't that self-projection on your part, Spew Boy???

Hobgoblin - You, Dobson, and the loopy part of the religious right looked like ignorant backwoods assholes over the Sponge Bob Affair. You mistook a video with cartoon characters "singing we are family" for somehow really being about sponges, ducks, robots, horses, ants, etc advancing a gay agenda. The poor old guy is at a loss to explain any part of the video as gay, so now he is back to saying one of the sponsors of this "straight video" has a gay agenda on it's website..

Now don't you have to go throw bacon at some Jews (sorry, "neocons") or something?

The odds are the Jews would eat the bacon if no other person was watching - or sell it back.

BTW - Ted Stevens is not a neocon. 2 separate agendas, Hobgoblin. Stevens thinks whats good for Alaska is good for America and throws kooky ideas around. Neocons think what is good for Israel is good for America, and throws the US Army around.

my god. i might actually agree w/a conservative for once. good post.

Ace is dah man. What a rant!!

It takes all kinds, some are better than others, but all are not especially good. Why is nudity important to love scenes in movies or TV shows? Reality? I think it's because faking it went out of style. We aren't our parent's children the way it was 60 years ago. Even then, didn't parents joke about sex.

And the religious right is no better, they are extremist in their own way, demanding that others do what they do not do themselves. A deacon, aren't they always the ones, e-mails me to write to my Congressman about gay marriage, and then tells me about a divorcee he met in church performing oral sex on him. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? If it is bad for others it is eqaully bad for him.

Talk about Pat Roberson all you want, why did he build a summer weekend house in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, with 14 bedrooms, and hire armed guards to keep people away? Is THAT doing God's work?

I, too, was not offended by Janet Jackson's display of unusual charms. That was not the time for showing off gadgetry. And it would not have been the big Bruuhaaha it was if the network engineer had not switched to a cameraman close to the stage for the close-up. It was an engineering problem, not a titulating one!

I think the real poblem is that we have had several decades of show-everything and some people are beginning to feel it's not the way it should be. If you have seen something you are later offended by; it's too late to undo the viewing. Live with it, deal with it, but don't impose your guilt feelings on others.

We have seen enough real horror on TV the past three years to feel guilty about viewing nudity.

That's the thing that kills me. And I'm not a religious conservative; I'm just conservative. At least, on some topics. I guess I'm not conservative when it comes to what's available on cable TV. I can live with that.

This is the kind of thing that gives ammunition to the ASSKKKROFT crowd. It's pathetic. It has no chance of passing. The question I have is what the hell is Stevens thinking? Is there some constituency in Alaska that this makes sense to? I've always had the impression that Alaska is a more libertarian state than conservative. So who's he aiming at, and why the holy hell can't Rove keep a lid on him?

Ah well, very nice post Ace. I'm glad I found your website.

image of tit:real tit::picture of beer:real beer

Hint for the cold dead hands when you watch skinemax. Take a few moments and rub them together that should worm them up to an acceptable level. You can also try sitting on them until the fall asleep. That will also warm them up and it will give you the sense that you are with a stranger.

I think Federal power should be used more wisely.

We are exporting a lot of dollars for agricultural products that should be grown at home.

I think we need a Grow It Act to encourage American grown cocaine and opium. What with grow op stores in every town the pot situation seems to be finally coming under control. We need to do the same for the imported powders.

http://bdroppings.blogspot.com/2005/03/ted-stevens-wants-to-apply-decency.html

I want to point out that Senator Stevens' argument for increased gov't interference in private/pay broadcasts certainly makes those advocating the return of the Fairness Doctrine seem reasonable.

When is it ok to tell people what they can't hear or see in privacy? When you don't trust them.

CedarTroll wrote: "The odds are the Jews would eat the bacon if no other person was watching - or sell it back."

What's fun about baiting you CedarTroll is that each time you respond you let the mask slip (or is it a hood?) a little further. I would suspect that in the not too distant future you'll share your 'final solution' with us.

Now do us all a favor and FOAD. Thank you.

Though I hope Stevens will not take away my home made NAMBLA flicks, sex is far less of a problem in the media than violence. The NRA has been making the point for years that there is a clear and direct link between violence in the media and kids shooting people. A good example is the movie "Basketball Diaries" in which Leonardo Di Capria, wearing a long black trenchcoat, kicks open the door of his classroom and proceeds to shoot his classmates and his teacher with a shotgun. This was the favorite movie of the Columbine killers. Their second favorite movie? Resivour Dogs.

AND LOOT THEIR BODIES!

Oh man, that should be on the t-shirt!

Jesus, Cedarford.
You're becoming a caricature.

At least in the past you'd lamely try to hide your true feelings and say that you were anti-zionist, not anti-semitic.

We didn't know it, but those were the good ol' days.

Ah, yes, the cedartroll is in fine, fine form (and it's only the 1/2 moon; it can only get better)

Thank, dud, you make me laugh.

Yep, I'm right there with Dobson and the FVC (or whatever).

You don't even know the facts, you moron.

God, you're more hopeless than Ryan; at least he's not a viscious Nazi bastard. Well, maybe your WAR or AN brothers can give you some good, pure WHITE ass lovin'.

/flame on!

Oy. I got almost all the way through these comments and then I come across 72Virgins trying to make another kind of argument in favor of censorship.

No movie caused Columbine. If you would get off your lazy ass and read something, you would know that investigators concluded that, in fact, one of the perpetrators (don't recall which) was a certifiable psychopath. These weren't "good kids gone bad from watching too many violent movies and playing too many violent video games". No, they were led by a cold blooded killer who felt nothing for the victims at Columbine.

There IS no good reason for censorship, which is EXACTLY why freedom from censorship is written directly into the very first ammendment to the Constitution.

Fat Kid,

Well, I was actually thinking of offering alternative t-shirts at Cafe Press. It isn't *necessary* that the shirt be gray; as one person pointed out, the site is mostly white, so what's wrong with a white shirt with the banner stretched out across the chest in a big gray stripe?

And yeah, if I do that (we'll see how the other t-shirts sell) there will certainly be a "And loot their bodies" t-shirt for the offing.

At the moment, btw, I think RockNClothing is very annoyed with me because I won't give approval to the mock-ups they've offered for the shirt. I just want it to look really good.

I don't think they understand the sort of integrity-kick I'm on here. I will not tolerate any loose shit.

Boy howdy, nothing gets male bloggers and their male fanbase up in arms faster or more vehemently than threatening to take away their cable porn access. That really sort of enforces the they've-never-kissed-a-girl stereotype, guys.

If porn was no longer available on cable TV, then you poor things, you'd have to go to one of the other 5 million sources you have at your disposal.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for the legislation either, but I think we've got the proverbial mountain being built from a molehill. No bill like this would pass Constitutional muster, much less Congress.

Later,
bbeck

bbeck -

And you demonstrate that the female side of the species is the natural censor and clucking hen that wishes to control what the male of the species can see or hear. A controling urge that somehow goes away completely when it involves Sex in the City, gay couples shows, or Oprah doing a very clinical show on "female troubles" and how gal porn stars avoid them....followed by an Oprah show on "Sex Secrets of the Porn Stars" - which women eat up....

And remember while it was Paris Hilton's porn tape that made her famous for 15 minutes with men, it is women who are her famous foverever fan base and seek to be "more like Paris".

Besides, men just roll their eyes when women go off on one of their anti-porn rants about the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, their mates looking at some hotties on the beach in thongs, or soft erotica on cable....

Assholes like Stevens are not engaged in a "little harmless restriction" proposal of activities on cable TV, the Internet, and satellite radio. They are trying to establish government control over non-public or open source information transmission channels, purely for the greater glory of Government, and the power to shut down content they disagree with.

Sherard: These weren't "good kids gone bad from watching too many violent movies" Who said they were? I guess it was just a concidence that they wore long black trenchcoats and shot their fellow students with shotguns, just like in the movie. And I suppose that guess the "cold blooded killer" they were led by was born that way and wasn't influnced at all by the movie he imitated.

Cedarford, like most people here, I don't read your drivel.

You need to stop wasting your time sharing your POS opinion with people who think you're a wanker.

Later,
bbeck

Stevens is a f-ing idiot.....People like him are why I will never vote republican again....

I'm so sick of the blame Hollywood, & Howard Stern for all the worlds' problems crowd....

Stevens has lost his mind, he's a religious zealot who wants to control your life (whatever happened to LESS govt. from conservatives)

Stevens is an absolute disgrace.....

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