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March 02, 2005

Liberal Blogger Advocates For Segregation NOW!

Awww, shucks, I just did that for attention. He's not really arguing for segregation per se, and he isn't even making a point I disagree with.

What he is doing is questioning whether or not prisions should be segregated, to reduce the amount of racially-inspired violence.

I don't think it's a bad idea, necessarily. As Yglesias points out, people are in prison to serve hard time, not to "learn about different cultures" or "immerse themselves in an open, diverse environment."

I do sort of question how much it will change things, though. Might it reduce racial violence? Of course. Will it reduce violence? Well, maybe a little; but these vicious bastards will just start shivving and raping each other for different reasons.

Still, gangs are one of the worst problems in prisons, and people join them chiefly as protection against other gangs. And gangs, of course, divide down strictly racial lines; unlike on TV, gangs are not made up of one Hispanic, one Asian, one black, and white kid with a mohawk. Maybe taking race out of the mix will be beneficial.


posted by Ace at 11:49 PM
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You left out the gang member in a wheelchair.

Wait, I didn't see that in TV gangs... it was in every school textbook I've ever had.

Posted by: Russell Wardlow on March 3, 2005 12:07 AM

Haven't you seen "The Warriors"? Real gangs comprise a dozen Bucky Dents in clown makeup.

Posted by: Charles Proteus on March 3, 2005 01:22 AM

Gang member in a wheel chair was covered on Oz. That whole diversity in prisons thing is a hippy McManus idea.

Seriously, though, isn't the original case about the segregation of new prisoners only when first imprisoned rather than on a permanent basis?

Posted by: rw on March 3, 2005 02:14 AM

I would say the answer to prison violence is complete solitary confinement for the entire prison population, from the day you arrive to the day you leave.

Posted by: Barbula on March 3, 2005 07:13 AM

"one Hispanic, one Asian, one black, and white kid with a mohawk." You forgot the blonde martial arts girl who can kick all their asses, but has a heart of gold.

Loose shit ACE.

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on March 3, 2005 09:25 AM

I wonder how white Liberals would feel about segregation if it were them or their sons who were about to go to prison?

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on March 3, 2005 11:48 AM

Sure Ace..segregated prisons is a great idea! You know what the left will call them when they are implemented?

Concentration Camps.

And of course it would then always be alleged that conditions in certain prisons containing certain classifications of persons would be "unconstitutionally cruel and unusual", or an "unconstitutional violation of equal protection" because other prisons that contain other classifications of persons were, allegedly, in better shape.

Do you have any doubts that a segregated prison system would not soon be used to undermine the practice of incarceration, period? In my opinion (fwiw) it would simply open up a whole new branch of legal avenues for convicted felons to base appeals off of. Hell, the federal court system is swamped with bogus "prisoner rights" cases as it is already.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: senator philabuster on March 3, 2005 02:59 PM

Um, didn't we already cover this "separate but equal" idea once before? Geez, can't we learn from history???

Later,
bbeck

Posted by: on March 3, 2005 04:44 PM

Segregated prisons would not work. A lot of offenders are MIXED race. Where do they go?

Posted by: Rapid Transit on March 3, 2005 05:12 PM

Presumably they'd be allowed to choose whatever racial block they felt most comfortable with.

As a matter of fact, I imagine that all prisoners would be allowed to choose their racial block. Most would go with their own race, but if someone feels more comfortable with another race, I suppose that would be just jake.

The goal is to reduce racial antipathy and violence, not to simply separate the races for shits and giggles.

Posted by: ace on March 3, 2005 05:26 PM
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