Actually, the crimerate all over the country dropped at the same time as it did in NY. Further, the rate of decrease can be accounted for by the increase in police numbers and not the strategy. This increase in police was instituted before the Big G took office. No one doubts that the crime rate is dropping and that this is a good thing, but trying to attribute it to Guiliani is a confusion of causation and correlation.

The changes in sentencing laws had the most profound effect on reducing crime.

"Guiliani scared criminals so much they're still worried about him."

Which makes me wonder: do we really want to send him to Washington? Is it more important that we keep him near New York, to keep our local criminals frightened, or that we send him to D.C., to scare the tar out of our elected federal criminals?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/01/AR2006010101049.html

I like it here. Keeps me on my toes.

Compstat and overtime drove crime down in NYC more than anything, further New York was one of the first citys to warrant check EVERYONE. That has an amazing effect.

I suppose they say its becuase of gun control

Have you tried getting a cop to write a crime report lately? No police report, no crime.

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/20040405/4/940

Holy crap, spurwing plover actually said something on topic and with only one typo. I may faint.

I'd give some credit to Bloomberg, though. He could've screwed post-Giuliani NY all up like Lee Brown screwed up post-Lanier Houston. Speaking of which: anyone who says crime rates are down nationwide - come visit the Dirty South sometime...

Houston's murder rate up 26%. Woo Hoo!

New York proved that if a mayor wants to reduce the crime rate he can.

We in Minneapolis have left-wing mayor who believes that the criminals are misunderstood and understanding would solve the problem. Thus our property crime rate is 4 times NYC, and the violent crime rate is 50% higher. And the crime rate has increased every year this left-wing wacko has been in office.

Come on guys. We all know the real reason-- These guys now days are just so obese, they don't have the energy they used to have. Thank heavens for Big Macs super sized. If they ever shut down McDonalds, the crime rate will once again sky rocket.(note to bill from indc--this is a joke)

Speaking of criminals, once again, the left is the last to know: Sacco and Vanzetti

Whatever they are doing in NYC needs to be done in Houston. The murder rate here is up quite a bit. However, our city leaders are positive...absolutely positive...that it has nothing whatsoever to do with any new arrivals. Although, I read that the NOLA police dept is getting lots of training done because their crime rate is near zero. But that's just a strange coindence I'm sure.

New York: Now The Safest Big City In America

Yeh, but New York is still one of the prime targets for the next terrorist attack.

This topic got me thinking (dangerous, I know). Every apocalyptic or vigilante gone wild movie I can think of off the top of my head was set in Blue America.

Death Wish (and all the sequels): New York & LA. Blue.

Escape from New York/LA: NY & LA. Blue.

Maniac Cop: NY. Blue.

The Toxic Avenger: New Jersey. smelly, but blue.

The Warriors: NY. Blue.

The Dead Zone: Maine. Blue.

Alligator: Chicago. Blue (and will remain blue as long as the dead can rise from their graves and pull a lever)

Alligator 2: Some Florida City. Technically, Florida is a blue state, but the asshats running that town couldn't defend themselves out of a piss-soaked paper bag, so they HAD to be Democrats.

Wolfen: The South Bronx. definitely blue america.

Robocop movies: Detroit. Blue.

What does it all mean? Beats the hell out of me, but it is interesting that whenever Democrats run a municipality for a long time, moviegoers can believe that the city in question turns into a crimeridden shithole.

loose shit alert: I should have said under the Alligator 2 topic: ...technically, Florida is a RED state.

I suppose the typo police who got after Ace last week are comin' for me now.