Actually, both true.

It was INTERNS not INFANTS. Hell, even Clinton could understand that.
Its these kinds of nobs that give satanic orgies a bad name.

I'm diggin any list that says Metropolitan is underrated.

And Caddyshack is a great movie, but gets backlash cause undergrad frat guy types quote from it like Torah.

Thanks for the link!

Actually it was the guy's grandfather who thought the guy was still a "good kid" even after planning to carve a satanic symbol on the chest of a small kidnapped girl in a plan to get back his ex-girlfriend.

And I actually thought Josie and the Pussycats was a really good film. The parody of the MTV teenager responding to every fad pushed and the parody of product placement were dead on.

But the reason EO can have Pussycats being underrated while Dr. Strangelove is overrated is that he breaks them down into smaller categories. Like Dr. Strangelove is the overrated Cold war movie while Crimson Tide is the underrated one. The Brady Bunch Movie is the overrated moive based on a chessy tv show, while Josie and the Pussycats is the underrated one. For movies about fraternities Animal House is overrated while PCU is underrated.

It is a pretty interesting list though.

Caddyshack, alas, is overrated. Doesn't make it bad-- it's a classic-- but it's paced all weird.

Animal House, however. . . genius (nice to see a shout out on the list for PCU-- while the near-beer version of Animal House, it's perfectly pleasant company for an afternoon spent in front of Comedy Central).

Agree on Witness vs Mosquito Coast, the latter being among the last films Harrison Ford could be bothered to act in .

I don't see Crimson Tide as underrated. I think it's about right.

Batman Begins is definitely not underrated. Hell, everyone sucks that movie's dick, if a movie had a dick.

2001 is not overrated, but Dark City is definitely underrated.

Blaspheme on the Mad Max, good call on Gallipoli.

Ya know, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but Josie and the Pussycats *was* underrated. I dunno, perhaps I'm just a sucker for cute girls (remember when Tara Reid was cute? No, me neither), but it was a fun enough piffle on cable.

Then again, so is HBO's Real Sex, as long as it's not an episode featuring fat old ugly people reconnecting with their orgasms out in the woods. Oh, wait, that's EVERY episode.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

How can you list a best picture academy award winner and box office success as underrated? Though The Apartment may be that good.

Ugh. Crimson Tide... much of that movie was so good, and yet, so much of that movie was so bad... As a former bubblehead, I've always had conflicting feelings on that film. The Navy didn't support the making of the film, and you can see why in several places. Even worse, you can see where the director decided to ignore the technical advisors as clear as day because they got so many other aspects of submarine life dead on.

The movie list is really good until it hits the foreign films. Then the engines start to sputter, and very quickly we're looking at a smouldering wreck.

Starts off to three cheers from me with 'Raging Bull | Metropolitan'. Stillman is brilliant (when the hell's he gonna make another movie?) and Scorsese, though I like him, is across-the-board overrated.

'The Searchers | Big Jake' is an inspired pair as well, though I might have chosen 'The Shootist' -- Wayne's final film, "touching" like Big Jake, but better all-around I think -- for the underrated slot.

Dr. Strangelove, while funny, doesn't have much to say about the Cold War beyond snark. Miller's Crossing is perhaps the most underrated mob movie ever made, and for my money the Coen Bros' best. And it's true -- American Beauty is a turd.

Warning light goes on: Breathless may be "overrated", but mainly because it frequently ranked in the top ten best and most influential movies. I think it just about earns all accolades, with some hefty caveats. (It works best if read, in part, as criticism of the existential emptiness of the main characters. I'm not sure Godard wanted us to be so critical.) A truckload of other Godard films could have been chosen here. Weekend or Alphaville spring to mind (both are watchable and at times very good, but have parts much greater than their wholes).

Then the descent begins. Run Lola Run is what plops out of a humorless German's head after watching too much Tarantino. Dark City is a bunch of art school atmospherics (and a hopelessy miscast Kiefer Sutherland) with a made-for-TV special effects ending. Moulin Rouge is very good -- if you're an adolescent girl. I can only think it appeared on this list because all the guy's favorite songs from junior high made it in the movie. Raising Arizona is like most Coen Bros movies -- very funny and very snide and very empty. (And hey, exactly who is underrating Raising Arizona or The Big Lebowski? Compared to what, Citizen Kane?)

In fact, most of these movies suffer in just the way he claims Raging Bull suffers -- all style, no substance. In Raging Bull's case, at least the style was impressive.

I have nothing to say regarding Elf. I will say I tried to watch ten minutes of Anchorman over the long weekend. I've concluded Will Ferrel is a talentless hack. People who love this guy must have been diehard fans of MTV's Jenny McCarthy Show.

Discuss.

CADDYSHACK UNDERRATED?? (Judge Smails voice) "Sell Bushwood???"

All of the films of Will Ferrell that I've seen (Elf, Kicking and Screaming, Old School are the ones I can think of off the top) were terrible,

except Anchorman. To me it was surprisingly funny. Caricatures? Yeah, but funny ones.

I wouldn't say that The Brotherhood of the Wolf is a "good" movie in the technical sense. Fun, sure. I skipped out of work to go see it, but that had more to do with the fact that my work was driving me insane than the movie's own attributes.

Agree about Easy Rider being overrated. Couldn't sit through it even in college when I wanted to think it was good.

This will piss some people off, but I think Raising Arizona is not only totally overrated but not even all that good.

More people definitely need to watch Miller's Crossing.

I have to question his judgment on some of his so-called "underrated" picks:

Dark City: crap.

Hellboy: crap

Some Kind of Wonderful: For the love of God, man, grow some testicles, why don't you!

The fact that Joe from Evangelical Outpost is a former Marine should allow him some wiggle room in calls for him to "grow some testicles." I'm not sure the exact ratio, but I am sure being a Marine is good for at least a couple rebuffs of the testicle calls.

Ace is eternally above any calls for producing proof of his testicles because of his being additiced to Val-U-Rite Vodka, giving us the "lightning bolt" guy, holding a flame haiku contest and of course giving us fantastic t-shirts.

Dr. Strangelove was certainly overrated. Hell, it's virtually unwatchable.

But every Kubrick film is overrated. Because Kubrick was overrated. And don't think that just because he died, "Eyes Wide Shut" was going to get any better, either.

but I am sure being a Marine is good for at least a couple rebuffs of the testicle calls.

Well, you're probably right, but touting the unrecognized merits of a film in which the leading man is more sensitive than Mary Stuart Masterson doesn't help matters.

The best part about making such a list is having to defend my choices. So here goes my valid attempt…

Dave Animal House, however. . . genius (nice to see a shout out on the list for PCU-- while the near-beer version of Animal House, it's perfectly pleasant company for an afternoon spent in front of Comedy Central).

PCU couldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Animal House so we have to give the original its due. But the problem with Animal House is that, unlike its descendant, it plays to the lowest common denominator. This is due, in large part because John Belushi was just another third rate SNL skit-comic churned out by the Lorne Michaels system. PCU, though, has Jeremey Piven. Piven is the kind of actor who will be almost completely ignored until, like Jerry Lewis, he is crowned a comic genius by some third-rate European country.

I don't see Crimson Tide as underrated. I think it's about right.

That’s because you obviously have good taste in film. Too many other people would fall to appreciate that this is more than just another Tom Clancy-ripoff.

Blaspheme on the Mad Max, good call on Gallipoli.

Mad Max is neither as good as it should have been nor as good as the better made sequels.

Ya know, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but Josie and the Pussycats *was* underrated.

What makes Josie worth acknowledging is the way in which is skewered the utter banality of MTV youth culture in a movie marketed toward the denizens of MTV youth culture.

El Ricko Then the descent begins. Run Lola Run is what plops out of a humorless German's head after watching too much Tarantino.

Perhaps so, but what movie should take its place? RLR is at least watchable which is saying quite a lot for a German flick.



Phinn Dark City: crap.

I thought so too the first time I saw it. Then I read Roger Ebert praise it as one of the “Great Movies” and gave it another chance. Ebert’s effusive love for the film is a bit much but it is definitely underrated.

Hellboy: crap

What comic book movie should take its place?

Some Kind of Wonderful: For the love of God, man, grow some testicles, why don't you!

To make sense of the film you have to keep in mind that Mary Stuart Masterson is playing the guy (a scrawny, nerdy dude at that) while Eric Stoltz is the chick (ugly yeet effeminate). Then it all snaps into place.

The best part about making such a list is having to defend my choices. So here goes my valid attempt…

Dave Animal House, however. . . genius (nice to see a shout out on the list for PCU-- while the near-beer version of Animal House, it's perfectly pleasant company for an afternoon spent in front of Comedy Central).

PCU couldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Animal House so we have to give the original its due. But the problem with Animal House is that, unlike its descendant, it plays to the lowest common denominator. This is due, in large part because John Belushi was just another third rate SNL skit-comic churned out by the Lorne Michaels system. PCU, though, has Jeremey Piven. Piven is the kind of actor who will be almost completely ignored until, like Jerry Lewis, he is crowned a comic genius by some third-rate European country.

I don't see Crimson Tide as underrated. I think it's about right.

That’s because you obviously have good taste in film. Too many other people would fall to appreciate that this is more than just another Tom Clancy-ripoff.

Blaspheme on the Mad Max, good call on Gallipoli.

Mad Max is neither as good as it should have been nor as good as the better made sequels.

Ya know, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but Josie and the Pussycats *was* underrated.

What makes Josie worth acknowledging is the way in which is skewered the utter banality of MTV youth culture in a movie marketed toward the denizens of MTV youth culture.

El Ricko Then the descent begins. Run Lola Run is what plops out of a humorless German's head after watching too much Tarantino.

Perhaps so, but what movie should take its place? RLR is at least watchable which is saying quite a lot for a German flick.



Phinn Dark City: crap.

I thought so too the first time I saw it. Then I read Roger Ebert praise it as one of the “Great Movies” and gave it another chance. Ebert’s effusive love for the film is a bit much but it is definitely underrated.

Hellboy: crap

What comic book movie should take its place?

Some Kind of Wonderful: For the love of God, man, grow some testicles, why don't you!

To make sense of the film you have to keep in mind that Mary Stuart Masterson is playing the guy (a scrawny, nerdy dude at that) while Eric Stoltz is the chick (ugly yeet effeminate). Then it all snaps into place.

By the way, The Matrix is just an over-hyped re-make of Dark City, only with a bunch of plot holes and terrible acting.

Anchorman is the Caddyshack of this generation. It's already gospel among coastal college fratboys. They get to watch Will Ferrell act out in public what they dream of doing, but can't because of PC.

Both movies had good quotable moments but the overall product was ruined by poor pacing and ill-executed improvisation. Ultimately the quotes, the memories of watching it with old buddies, and the sheer effrontery of the protagonists will keep the thing alive, though.

Forrest Gump - Zelig
The Matrix - Total Recall
Joe's Apartment - Twilight Of The Cockroaches

(More of a bad/good than an over/underrated)

So what movies have you watched the greatest number of times?

Big Trouble in Little China: 7

Do you suppose he was planning to use them as a sacrifice? oh the horror of it all