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November 17, 2005

National Guardsman Offers Advice On How To Kill... American Soldiers

He trolled the Jihadist sites under a nom de plume. A sting (videotaped!) shows him explaining how to kill the drivers of tanks and Humvees, while keeping the vehicle intact (to be used to kill further American soldiers).

He got life in prison, but may be paroled in 19 years. Then again, he's at Fort Levenworth military prison. We'll see what kind of shape he's in in 19 years.

But don't question his patriotism. He has the right to dissent via conspiracy to murder and treason.

posted by Ace at 07:15 PM

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I actually talked with that fucker on a gun message board. He insisted one could be both a faithful Muslim and a loyal patriotic American. Then he got busted and convicted for treason. A very confused fellow. Do I have to even say what his politics were like?

Posted by: Moonbat_One on November 17, 2005 07:48 PM

Whaddya wanna bet that the first guy to shank this turd with a sharpened toothbrush gets an extra brownie with every meal for the duration of his stay at Leavenworth?

Posted by: Russ from Winterset on November 17, 2005 08:01 PM

The fact that he hasn't been executed just goes to show how weak a nation we've become. What does a person have to do in this country to actually receive a punishment that fits the crime?

I guess if you can't bring to trial a US Senator who drunkedly left a woman to die then covered it up, I guess anything goes. That's right kennedy you drunken murderer. How foul are the scum that re-elect that piece of shit.

I'm beginning to think maybe we aren't at war. We have Democratic Congressmen and Senators stating that the Commander in Chief lied and not being punished. They are undermining the war effort with their spineless tactics. They know that what they are saying is damaging America, but that doesn't stop them.

Maybe what America needs is a good cleaning. Mothers used to tell their children that if they cried they would give them something to cry about. Democrats like to call President Bush A facsist, well let them scream it from behind bars. Sedition is still on the books. Throw a few of them in fuckin prison and be done with them. Yeah you kerry, you lying coward. Hero, my ass. I'm so angry I want to vomit.

I'm not giving the Republicans a free ride on this either, act like the majority, not a bunch of pussies.

The American Democrat was responsible for the US turning it's back on the Vietnamese people and getting them slaughtered by the Communists, the poor bastards only fault was to trust America. Now the same left over left wing scumbags want to desert the Iraqi people. Please dear God don't let them kill again. The Iraqi people just need a break, they don't deserve to be treated this way. The Democrats have to be stopped. By any means necessary. We have laws, implement them now and stop this foolishness now

Posted by: Michael M on November 17, 2005 08:03 PM

I agree with Michael. I don't know if he was eligible for the dp. I doubt it. But, he shd have been. What a fuck.

Posted by: on November 17, 2005 08:14 PM

Anderson, a Muslim convert, is charged with five counts of trying to provide al Qaeda with information about U.S. troop strength and tactics, as well as methods for killing American soldiers.

What do you suppose came first, the conversion to Islam or the hatred of America?

Yea, that's what I think too. Anderson hated America and the conversion was just a symptom of his disease. The America hating, however, was probably a symptom of a larger, more complex pathology within Anderson's soul. Possibly the result of an abusive parent or child abandonment. So the oly recourse Anderson had was to deal with his issues rationally or do something dr-astic* such as convert to Islam. Or, I'm going to say it, you've been warned...

...turn to homosexuality to punish his father for hurting him.

* The word r-a-s-t-i-c is banned from AoS? Weird.

Posted by: Bart on November 17, 2005 08:18 PM

19 years?

This fucker should be getting the freakin' firing squad along with that steaming pile of pig-shit that fragged his own mates back at the camp.

Posted by: Xoxotl on November 17, 2005 08:20 PM

Michael M:

Breathe in... breathe out. Breathe in..... breathe out. There. Feel better now?

My advice is to avoid reading sites like Daily Kos for a while and remind yourself that in the big picture, America really is slowly moving in the right direction in most ways, and we're also winning the war.

There. Isn't that nice? Yeeessss. It's OK. It's... O.K.

Posted by: on November 17, 2005 08:38 PM

If he wasn't going to prison I'm sure he'd be joining Mother Sheehan on her tour of Europe.

Posted by: Mike on November 17, 2005 08:49 PM

I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but I was filled with heartache when I read this story about Saddam being tortured just like in the gulags:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/17/wirq17.xml

"US guards posted outside the makeshift courthouse in Baghdad found the incident amusing and did not intervene, the lawyer claimed."

Gob-smackingly vile. Bushitler is losing the battle for hearts and minds!!!

Posted by: on November 17, 2005 08:49 PM

For the sake of clarity, please distinguish between Michael M and me, even though my last name begins with M (as you can see from my email address).

Posted by: Michael on November 17, 2005 09:29 PM

I can't be bothered to descend into the sewers of Kos and DU, but I wouldn't be surprised to find posts there singing this guy's praises.

Posted by: Sean M. on November 17, 2005 11:20 PM

I don't know why everyone is so upset. He's just another good Democrat.

Posted by: DaveP. on November 17, 2005 11:48 PM

When a person has become an active danger to the safety of the Republic - particularly to members of the military - he ought not to be simply jailed. Such dangers to society must be dealt with in a more permanent manner. As much we may feel avenged by his execution, his execution is more a matter of national security. And, I would hope, deterrance.

That such people exist, of course, disgusts me.

Posted by: Muslihoon on November 18, 2005 01:23 AM

Can't believe he's white! (ducks)

Posted by: NotThisTime on November 18, 2005 10:36 AM

Death is too good for him. It's too easy. I much prefer the thought of this shit spending the rest of his life in the middle of Kansas turning big rocks into little rocks. Day in, Day out, for years.

Posted by: MMDeuce on November 18, 2005 10:53 AM

Wasn't this guy busted 18 months ago?

Posted by: Pompous on November 18, 2005 11:59 AM

I think what's new, Pompous, is the undercover tape that was just released. I watched it. I don't know if there's unreleased stuff on it they don't want passing into common knowledge, but every damn thing I've heard or read that this guy passed a long was so mind-bendingly, STUPIDLY obvious that his whole treason was utterly pointless. Comic books would be a richer source of military secrets. "If you kill a guy in a tank with poison gas, it won't damage the tank and you can use it." Thank you, Private Einstein.

Posted by: S. Weasel on November 18, 2005 12:58 PM

There were questionars to many americans in the armed forces would they fire on american citizens they said NO

Posted by: spurwing plover on November 24, 2005 10:20 AM

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