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November 04, 2005

Dorkwad Thread

This was the flame war thread. Now it's the dorkwad thread.

Stuff about VonKreedon's dorkiness after the jump.


285. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 3:31:37 PM

I never like D&D much, for the very reasons shown in Ace's screenplay, too much being bound by rolling a half-dozen different obscure dice and being tied to being Good/Evil/Chaos/Order bullshit. I don't know if it was the D&D game system or just the geeks who played it, but the games all seemed to feel like Ace's screenplay.

My preferred role playing system is GURPS (Generic Universal Role Playing System). It seems to lend itself more to a story telling game form rather than a rigid structural game. Also, you could run a game in any context one could think of.

286. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 3:32:26 PM

Good god. You ARE a geek, Vonkers.

I've been kidding this whole time... and yet you...

GURPS.

GURPS.

I... I don't know what to say.


291. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 3:36:15 PM

[on the title for the thread]

I think we have a winner:

The thread will be called "VonKreedon's Magical GURPS Tales" until further notice.


296. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 3:38:40 PM

[Explaining what GURPS is to someone who asks]

GURPS is a game like D&D.

However, even very superficially geeky people know about D&D.

You have to be a REAL geek to know about GURPS.


...

330. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 4:14:26 PM

You see, I thought that GURPS sold out when they started coming out with all the specialty rule books. I mean, to me, the fabulous thing about GURPS was that it was universal, that you could take the basic concept and use it in any context. The specialty rules just made it more like D&D.

331. Indiana Jones [AKA Nick Kronos] - 3/21/2001 4:16:24 PM

I know what you mean. GURPS changed, man.

It used to be about the game, but then they changed. They really changed.


334. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 4:18:16 PM


You Dork, it wasn't about the game, about winning and losing, it was about telling a story, a story that arose from the interaction of the players in the context created by the GM. It wasn't about the stupid game, it was about the connection between the players. Dork.


335. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 4:19:06 PM

Ahhhh... the magical years.

Back when GURPS made a difference.


337. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 4:20:00 PM


That's right, it GURPS used to stand for, or at least create the space for, a shared creative spirit; a community of chautaqua. As you say, now it's just another mass commodity sell out.

339. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 4:21:37 PM

ONE-TWO-THREE-FOUR, we don't want your Orkish Wars!

FIVE-SIX-SEVEN-EIGHT, it's your supplements that we hate!


341. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 4:23:06 PM

WHAT DO WE WANT! Shared creative story telling!
WHEN DO WE WANT IT! How about next Tuesday night?

345. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 4:24:38 PM

I remember when "The Man" tried to force his Magical Compendium on us.

"Take your stinking capitalist Magical Compendium and stick it where the sun don't shine, Man!" I told him.

I spent six days in an Upstate New York jail for standing up to The Man.

What did I do with my time?

I created some WICKED character sheets, man.


HERE'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY GOOD...

347. vonKreedon - 3/21/2001 4:25:51 PM


Actually, a true fact, I was introduced to role playing while I was in the custody of the state of NH for occupying the Seabrook Nuke site.

349. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 4:27:03 PM

"Actually, a true fact, I was introduced to role playing while I was in the custody of the state of NH for occupying the Seabrook Nuke site."

VonKreedon played the "role" of "Jailhouse Bitch."

350. AceofSpades - 3/21/2001 4:30:36 PM

Jailhouse Tough: "Okay, now I'm going to bend you over this bench and fuck the shit out of your ass."

VonKreedon: "Wait! Don't I get a combat reflexshes roll to avoid the assthault?!"

Jailhouse Tough: "Errrrrr... sure. Whatever. You have to roll an 18."

VonKreedon: "Damn! I only rolled a 17! Can I take half-damage, at leassht?"

Jailhouse Tough: "Uhhhhmmmm... no. Full damage. Bend over."

(Sounds of carnality and screams.)

VonKreedon: "Am I role-playing thish correctly?"

Jailhouse Tough: "Uhh... Oh... Ummmm... Oh, so sweet... Yeah, kid. You're role-playing it fine."

...

Jailhouse Tough: "Okay, I'm done. Who's next?"

Turk: "Me. I'm gonna get me some of that."

VonKreedon: "Wait! I get my combat reflexthes roll to thsave mythelf from the assthault! (rolls dice) An 18! I avoid the damage!"

Turk: "Uh, no. You don't get a combat, uh, combat--"

Tough: "Reflexes."

Turk: "Yeah, that's it. You don't get a combat reflexes roll this time."

VonKreedon: "Why not?"

Tough: "Uhhhhhhh... because... because you were 'stunned' by the previous attack."

(as Turk seizes VonKreedon's hips)

VonKreedon: "Boy oh boy! Thish sure isth a complicated game!"

balk4.jpg
A picture of Von Kreedon, taken shortly after his
release from the jail-slash-role-playing-club.
Notice his face is positively glowing.

posted by Ace at 01:17 PM
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Freeman Hendrix's momma was WHITE!

Posted by: Kwame on November 4, 2005 01:22 PM

You're late with the poetry awards. You are a PROCRASTINATOR. There. I said it.

I feel so much better now.

Posted by: skinbad on November 4, 2005 01:25 PM

Howdy everybody! Have a nice weekend!

Posted by: Guy T. on November 4, 2005 01:25 PM

Jayzus! After days of trying to fact-check and reeducate the members of the Joe Wilson gypsy-dildo-punk fan club, after days of tearing down pathetic but nicely-decorated strawmen, after days of slogging through the grossest of conservative caricatures, I gotta ask - whence this flood? Is it that freaking Salon link (Duarararerurar Report (sp?)), or Kos, or DU, or hwut?

And what will it take to get these guys to either allow a little wisdom to be be granted them, or to go haunt their internet equivalent of a bathhouse?

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 01:27 PM

I'll be troll-bait for the lefties by asking a really pertinent question:

How many children need to die, how many toddlers need to be beheaded before we wake up and cast off this politically correct mental baggage that Islam is peaceful and can be included?

Islam is a disease and needs to be eradicated. The Islamification of America is underway. 7 million + muslims in America, converting 135,000 per year and more, 3,000+ Islamic centers in America teaching muslim kids to hate and murder, and the beginnings of Islamic murder here in the US (Jersey City).

By 2010, Islam is expected to double its numbers here in America. That will be at current French levels.

In Indonesia, the country Islamified successfully when muslims comprised only 25% of the populace. It is now legal and fun to behead christian children in Indonesia.

Saying it can’t happen here is not only blind, but stupid and ignorant of history.

Posted by: William Thrash on November 4, 2005 01:28 PM

Howdy everybody! Have a nice weekend!

Oh right, have a nice weekend when my screen is dripping pus from the scabrous comments left by lefties with too much time on their hands. Or something on their hands. Hey, maybe that's not pus . . .

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 01:30 PM

Monty says his sanity depends on it.

Hey, I didn't say that. The voice inside my head said it. Are you trying to cast aspersions on my mental state, you puke-sucking pinko dickweed?

Posted by: Monty on November 4, 2005 01:30 PM

Wait, VK left? He's still hanging around at Karol's.

What chased him off?

Posted by: someone on November 4, 2005 01:34 PM

I used to write some things for GURPS and your item made my cry. PErhaps not like I that guy getting it in the stuffer in a NH jail cry, but tears nonetheless......;-)

GURPS IS YOUR KING AND CAR WARS IS YOUR GOD. and Illuminati was fun too.

Posted by: mightybillfuji on November 4, 2005 01:37 PM

Melee and Wizardy was better than GURPs, and the predecessor to it.

Posted by: William Thrash on November 4, 2005 01:45 PM

being tied to being Good/Evil/Chaos/Order bullshit

Yeah, I see what you mean. The range of choices presented by these four categories is so ... confining.

Posted by: Phinn on November 4, 2005 01:48 PM

Car Wars! Whoa, that brings back memories.

Posted by: someone on November 4, 2005 01:50 PM

Ugh.
GURPS and D&D thread, not flame thread.

*sniff*

I sense a Spring Awakening being Chanced.

Posted by: lauraw on November 4, 2005 01:50 PM

I sense a Spring Awakening being Chanced.

No, that was me. I had Taco Bell for lunch. Sorry.

Posted by: Monty on November 4, 2005 01:51 PM

I preferred a more realistic alignment system, with a Dork/Geek axis and a Spazz/Gaywad axis.

VonKreedon, I think, would be a Gaywad Dork, maybe with some Spazzmoid tendencies.

Posted by: ace on November 4, 2005 01:51 PM

Back in the very late '70s we used to play Runequest which I much preferred to the little bit of D&D I played. Now I'm introducing my 9-year old to D&D, and trying to be a DM. Geez is that game clunky!

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 01:51 PM

Oh, this is so sick. Are you men or geeks? You all need to get laid. Really.

Posted by: on November 4, 2005 01:53 PM

geoff:

Back in the very late '70s we used to beat dorks like you with pool cues, crush your graph-paper dungeons into a ball, and stuff them down your corduroy pants. It was a grand time to be alive.

Posted by: Monty on November 4, 2005 01:54 PM

Are you men or geeks? You all need to get laid.

Which one will getting laid cure?

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 01:54 PM

I like the way ya'll revel in your geekdom

I find it endearing.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on November 4, 2005 02:00 PM

This was the flame war thread. Now it's the dorkwad thread.

Unfair! Unfair! You cannot change the rules after the game has already started.

Posted by: on November 4, 2005 02:00 PM

Monty:

Oh nice. Here you come, prancing about, pirouetting gaily on the tips of your effeminate toes, reminiscing about stuffing my pants. I think it was the unstuffing that I dreaded most, because it seemed awfully and unnecessarily thorough.

Meanwhile the battle-weary, comment-stained folk who have been slapping around the moonbats all morning hunker down for a brief respite, while you parade about in your immaculate chemise (that's a good color on you, BTW).

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 02:02 PM

Melee and Wizardy was better than GURPs, and the predecessor to it.

Now THOSE were games! Oh, and don't forget "In the Labrynth", the RPG rules that tied them together. I've still got my copy.

Prootwaddles. Gotta love a game that had Prootwaddles.

Posted by: Robert Crawford on November 4, 2005 02:03 PM

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that I have no frigging idea what any of you are talking about.

Posted by: JackStraw on November 4, 2005 02:08 PM

Great, RWS, now they can say:

"See, women DO like us D&D losers!"

Posted by: JFH on November 4, 2005 02:09 PM

Borrowing a slogan from the anti Amercian moonbats -

I will support the d&d dorks when they shoot their DM's

Posted by: polynikes on November 4, 2005 02:12 PM

geoff,

Now I'm introducing my 9-year old to D&D, and trying to be a DM.
3E, or one of the more classic versions?

Posted by: someone on November 4, 2005 02:19 PM

3E, or one of the more classic versions?

Don't know if I'm following your question, but it's just the 'Basic Game' that WotC released. Figured I better introduce him to it before the 9th Circuit Court tells the schools to do it.

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 02:25 PM

Yep, geoff. There's going to be hell to pay when he tells his teacher about his Rod of Ramming...

Posted by: Jimmie on November 4, 2005 03:01 PM

geoff:

Don't get too hung up on the rules and numbers. If you find that you have made something too easy for your son, just make up a way to take away all of his characters' most valuable stuff 20 minutes later.

That way, he will learn that the world is a cruel place, and that we are all helpless before its overwhelming arbitrary forces.

I need to write a book: Everything I Needed To Know I Learned from D&D.

Posted by: Phinn on November 4, 2005 03:51 PM

Don't get too hung up on the rules and numbers

Yeah, I was getting a little concerned over the number of tequila shots it said to take. The games seemed awfully short, and he wasn't worth much at school the next day. Or did I somehow swap manuals . . .

Posted by: geoff on November 4, 2005 03:58 PM

So, GURPS is to D&D as Larry Niven's Known Space is to Star Trek?

Posted by: Dave Munger on November 4, 2005 04:18 PM
I like the way ya'll revel in your geekdom
Yep, that about says it. What the hell are y'all talking about?
Posted by: Beth on November 4, 2005 04:19 PM

Geoff,

Teaching your son D&D, huh?

Best abstinence education money can buy. You are to be commended.

Posted by: ace on November 4, 2005 04:20 PM

Teaching your son D&D, huh? Best abstinence education money can buy. You are to be commended.

lol!

Posted by: on November 4, 2005 05:06 PM

Oh, cheez. If you guys think D&D is the reason dorks don't get girls, you still haven't come to grips with the grippy thing you should've come to by now. D&D is a symptom. Dork is the disease.

Take the dungeon away from the dork, and he still doesn't get laid. He just doesn't have anything else to do tonight, either.

Posted by: S. Weasel on November 4, 2005 06:38 PM

Surprised no one ever mentions "Paranoia" when the discussion turns to these topics. Or "Heroes, Unlimited." Possibly the faggiest RPG of all times. Which is, of course, saying an awful lot.

Posted by: Knemon on November 4, 2005 07:37 PM

Sometimes it's hard to believe I'm married.

Posted by: Knemon on November 4, 2005 07:37 PM

Ah, Known Space. Yeah, I was reading Niven and Orson Scott Card and Heinlein in high school, rather than D&D, which is unsurprising as I was a chick at a boarding school and the guys played D&D after hours.

But then in college, I was introduced to Magic the Gathering, and got hooked for a few years. I didn't play to win (most of my cards sucked, and I didn't feel like paying lots of money for single, powerful cards) -- I played for revenge. And to make everybody hurt. One time, I killed off everybody in the game at the same time, including myself. I thought that was awesome.
I had to play 3- or more player games, because that was the only way I could last long enough to really mess with people.

Oh, and I wrote some poetry about my Magic wins:
http://marypat.org/stuff/mywords/victory.txt
http://marypat.org/stuff/mywords/vic2.html

Posted by: meep on November 4, 2005 08:30 PM
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