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November 01, 2005

Is This A Joke?

UPDATE: NOT A JOKE! MEMRI has the translation, and there are actually three additional elements to the fatwa, including not playing the game "surrounded" by four lines, as that is the way of the "polytheists." Thanks to Sean for that.

ORIGINAL POST:

It seems like a joke. The article claims this is a translation from a Saudi newspaper, but no link is provided; but then, not all the media of the world have an on-line presence.

There's nothing identifying it as a joke.

And it's from the Guardian UK, which, as far as I know, does not seem to have a sense of humor, except for some shitgiggle-sarcasm when Americans or Israelis are butchered.

So: Joke, or not a joke? A fatwa about soccer (known to foreign pansies as "football"), which stipulates the ways in which the game is to be changed in order to not follow the rules of the "decadent and corrupt" western imperialists.

Islamically-correct soccer. It must be read to be believed. I've read it, and I still don't believe it.

At some point we must drop the pretense of politeness and simply begin telling these people: You. Are. Fucking. Insane.

I'm sorry, but sometimes tough-love is needed. We've been sugar-coating this for a while, but it might be time for more bitter medicine.

One billion people in the world are tyrannized by a paranoid and hateful thought-system promulgated by maniacs that, were it not termed "one of the world's great religions," would be deemed a fucking psychiatric condition.

And we're all supposed to nod our heads and say "Yes, by Allah, 'Islam' means peace."

Well, perhaps. But not the way a lot of the current Defenders of the Faith are defining it.

Read the list. If this is real, then I'm afraid there's no other term that can apply to this madness than "batshit over-the-fucking moon crazy-eyed lunatic ravings."

And I mean that with all due respect.


1. International terminology that heretics use, such as "foul," "penalty", "corner," "goal", "out" and others, should be abandoned and not said. Whoever says them should be punished and ejected from the game.

2. Do not call "foul" and stop the game if someone falls and sprains a hand or foot or the ball touches his hand, and do not give a yellow or red card to whoever was responsible for the injury or tackle. Instead, it should be adjudicated according to Sharia rulings concerning broken bones and injuries.

3. Do not follow the heretics, the Jews, the Christians and especially evil America regarding the number of players. Do not play with 11 people. Add to this number or decrease it.

4. Play in your regular clothes or your pyjamas or something like that, but not coloured shorts and numbered T-shirts, because shorts and T-shirts are not Muslim clothing. Rather, they are heretical and western clothing, so beware of imitating their fashion.

5. If you have fulfilled these conditions and intend to play soccer, play to strengthen the body in order better to struggle in the way of God on high and to prepare the body for when it is called to jihad. Soccer is not for passing time or the thrill of so-called victory.

6. Do not play in two halves. Rather, play in one half or three halves in order to completely differentiate yourselves from the heretics, the corrupted and the disobedient.

7. If neither of you beats the other, or "wins", as it is called, and neither puts the leather between the posts, do not add extra time or penalties. Instead leave the field, because winning with extra time and penalty kicks is the pinnacle of imitating heretics and international rules.

8. Young crowds should not gather to watch when you play because if you are there for the sake of sports and strengthening your bodies as you claimed, why would people watch you? You should make them join your physical fitness and jihad preparation, or you should say: "Go proselytise and seek out morally reprehensible acts in the markets and the press and leave us to our physical fitness."

9. You should spit in the face of whoever puts the ball between the posts or uprights and then runs in order to get his friends to follow him and hug him like players in America or France do, and you should punish him, for what is the relationship between celebrating, hugging and kissing and the sports that you are practising?

10. You should use two posts instead of three pieces of wood or steel that you erect in order to put the ball between them, meaning that you should remove the crossbar in order not to imitate the heretics and in order to be entirely distinct from the soccer system's despotic international rules.

11. Do not do what is called "substitution," that is, taking the place of someone who has fallen, because this is a practice of the heretics in America and elsewhere.

This isn't religion. This is a worldwide pandemic of extreme-feelings-of-inadequacy-and-cultural-inferiority metastized into full-blown mental illness which expresses itself through the superficial vehicle of "religion."

Any culture with an inferiority complex stresses what it has and others don't, and denigrates what others have but it doesn't. Even in America, we denigrate... well, we have most things, but American conservatives were pretty annoyed by that whole "Socialism works in Scandanavia line" a decade ago.

The French go on and on about their fucking cheese and cafes and little tiny homo-coffees. Their culture. Which is, yes, nice in some respects, but they never shut up about it because what the French have and America doesn't is French culture, the French language, and French indifference to nostril-stinging body odor.

And etc.

The Muslim world has an enormous chip on its shoulder -- 700 years of political and technological failure can't be good for one's ego -- and they seem to be stressing the one thing they have that others don't -- Islam.

That's what makes them special. Everyone wants to feel special.

But the religion has been perverted into a hateful form of boosting-self-esteem-by-demonizing-the-world. A culture forever on the lookout for heretics, infidels, and scapegoats is not a culture that has an awful lot positive going for it.


posted by Ace at 08:22 PM
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This is an old story. The Religious Policeman, a blogger from Saudi Arabia was all over this a few weeks ago. Check it out here: http://muttawa.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Sean on November 1, 2005 08:27 PM

Yeah, it's insane. Crazy. Pernicious, even. But it's soccer, so who gives a fuck?

In this country, soccer is a sport played by children to prepare them for real sports in High School. Like baseball. Let's see those Saudi fucks bust on baseball -- I'll buy a Tomahawk and loft it at them my own damned self.

Posted by: Monty on November 1, 2005 08:32 PM

What is this "soc... cer" of which you speak?

Posted by: zetetic on November 1, 2005 08:34 PM

Well, if Europe is going to be awakened by the threat of Islamists, then I can think of no better way than to have them threaten their precious soccer!

GOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL!

Posted by: Mark on November 1, 2005 08:35 PM

12) Do not play football with a round 'ball' as the Jew-loving pig heretics do. Play, instead, with a cone or, better yet, a cube, like our beloved black borg cube at Mecca.

Posted by: Adolfo Velasquez on November 1, 2005 08:47 PM

"6. Do not play in two halves. Rather, play in one half or three halves in order to completely differentiate yourselves from the heretics, the corrupted and the disobedient."

Three halves? Weren't these the people who invented modern mathematics?

This is surely a joke/hoax.

Posted by: The Babaganoosh on November 1, 2005 08:49 PM

I do hope this is legitimiate. I pray this is real. Because soccer (aka "pansy football") is so popular in the Middle East that a fatwa like this will finally convince the unwashed masses that the jihadists are as crazy as a rat in a coffee can.

Posted by: Brown Line on November 1, 2005 08:50 PM

"At some point we must drop the pretense of politeness and simply begin telling these people: You. Are. Fucking. Insane.

* * * *

One billion people in the world are tyrannized by a paranoid and hateful thought-system promulgated by maniacs that, were it not termed "one of the world's great religions," would be deemed a fucking psychiatric condition."

Hear! Hear! I am soooo tired of these screamiing a-holes.

And "Prince Charles" is coming over here to lecture Bush about greater "understanding" of these people? He ought to stick with the role he knows best: Camila's tampon.

Posted by: on November 1, 2005 09:00 PM

It's almost certainly a joke. And I take the same attitude that I take when somebody parodies a vicious stereotype of rednecks, Jews or Christians: if you believe it too quickly, you probably need to re-align your bigotmeter.

Even the nastiest, most heinous parts of Sharia law has at least a veneer of logic behind it. (e.g. Stoning an adulterer to death? Adultery is bad, and discouraging it is a good idea.)

But this is just batshit crazy stuff. If you buy it at face value, you have probably spent too much time at littlegreenfootballs and need to spend some time with your thoughts.

Posted by: rho on November 1, 2005 09:04 PM

Gotta be a joke. Some prankster somewhere is sitting by his computer laughing himself sick right now.

Posted by: OregonMuse on November 1, 2005 09:06 PM

I feel "special" today - my power came back on after a week of living in a dark cave listening to incompetent morons whine on the radio about 4 hour waits in line for a bag of ice and some bottled water.

Now I can be "very special" and clean all that green smelly crap out of the fridge and have cold soda again.

Posted by: Purple Avenger on November 1, 2005 09:07 PM

Here is the MEMRI translation.:

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA24505

Posted by: Sean on November 1, 2005 09:17 PM

Still makes more sense than Scientology. Sorry, Katie.

Posted by: UGAdawg on November 1, 2005 09:21 PM

And Prince Charles will still tell us we're being too haaarsh on Islam -- until they get around to New Rules for Cricket.

Posted by: Claire on November 1, 2005 09:37 PM

puts the leather between the posts

Indeed.

Posted by: on November 1, 2005 09:50 PM

If this is real, then I'm afraid there's no other term that can apply to this madness than "batshit over-the-fucking moon crazy-eyed lunatic ravings."

Why are you so shocked? These are the same people who believe in deadly female hair rays. And, I'm aiming mine right at your unruly testicles as I type. Bzzzz.

Posted by: on November 1, 2005 10:18 PM

Holy Crap! I got a top of the post thank you from Ace of Spades! Mom would be so proud, if she knew what a blog was.

Posted by: Sean on November 1, 2005 10:36 PM

Man, I don't know what bugs me more. The thought of someone's testicles being unruly or someone aiming their hair at them.

Posted by: Sortelli on November 1, 2005 10:54 PM

Has to be a joke. I've spent the last 4 years in Muslim countries (Afghanistan and now Kuwait) and while they are batshit, they aren't quite that batshit. The point though is that Islam has become so convoluted we aren't sure if it's serious or not.

Posted by: MTW on November 1, 2005 11:14 PM

cut to scene 2:
3 Imams in a cave in Afghanistan smoking a hookah bowled with Turkish hash, Imam #1:

So, we declare some f'ed up rule as being the will of Allah (peace and much laughter be upon him), and after awhile, we'll embarrass the kuffir into adopting them. Hey, it'll work! You should see what the boys in Fast Food did with Burger King! Allah (pamlbuh) is my witness, we're going after banks and entertainment with the old pig standby down in the EU bureau.

Posted by: Tom M on November 1, 2005 11:21 PM

Ah, MTW, but you haven't seen the new and improved Saudi kind! They are extra batty!

Seems like some very, very deranged mullah did write and issue this fatwah, which isn't difficult, really: a fatwah is basically a legal opinion by one learned in Islamic law. There is no degree or credential system: one simply has to prove one has acquired the required information from a relevant school. If I had a good memory, I could proclaim myself a mufti (one qualified to issue such opinions) and start issuing fatawa of my own. One thing I have heard, especially with regard to divorce, is if one mufti (the Arabic root of "mufti" and "fatwah" is the same) won't issue a fatwah to one's liking, one can be found who will. Especially if he is compensated adequately for his trouble. Another saying is that there is a fatwah for and against everything. Even beards and socks and underclothing.

Posted by: Muslihoon on November 1, 2005 11:29 PM

Tom M.: completely OT, but your comment reminded me: someone I was closely related to told me, in all seriousness, "Islam forbids us from saying the word 'pig' in any language." I remember in Pakistan, whenever a cartoon character would say "pig", the word would be recorded over with another animal's name.

Posted by: Muslihoon on November 1, 2005 11:32 PM

"Ah, MTW, but you haven't seen the new and improved Saudi kind! They are extra batty"!

Spent my share of time in Riyadh. Loved the separate takeout windows for men and women at the fast food shops. Saudi is the place to go if you want to see Islam in its most undiluted (i.e. intolerant) form. Certainly wouldn't recommend it to the ladies (unless they enjoy dressing like ninja's). U.A.E. is a close second but Saudi is undeniable tops - and the only country I felt uncomfortable in 100% of the time.

Posted by: MTW on November 1, 2005 11:40 PM

I stand corrected, MTW.

I have been to Saudi only once, for umrah with my family. I was quite young, maybe 10. I refuse to go to Hajj. (Might have to do with the fact I have renounced Islam, embraced Christianity, and admire Judaism.) Thanks for your post on some of your experience in Saudi. I'd love to hear more about it and about your experience in other Muslim lands. (E-mail me if you'd like.)

I lived in the UAE for two years. (I dislike Emiratis. Racist, xenophobic, intolerant, ignorant, uncultured, arrogant, lazy, authoritarian, sycophantic, stupid lot the whole of them. KFC (staffed by Filipinos) used to do home delivery, though, so not all was bad.) Absolutely terrified my teachers by being an outspoken Zionist. They were afraid any moment Emirati police would sweep down and deport me. Students there who were in Saudi said Saudi was hell.

Posted by: Muslihoon on November 1, 2005 11:58 PM

Muslihoon:
whenever a cartoon character would say "pig", the word would be recorded over with another animal's name
I'm not sure I would like to see a Porky the Rabbit cartoon.

KFC (staffed by Filipinos) used to do home delivery, though, so not all was bad.)

That was good.

Posted by: Tom M on November 2, 2005 12:08 AM

We could do a whole separate thread on the Filipina guest workers here. And no offense to your kabayan is intended by that remark Digital Brown Shirt.

Posted by: on November 2, 2005 02:09 AM

I have it on good authority that radical muslims (Is there any other kind, really?) do not have a sense of humor.

That's just the problem; We've got guys with names like Ali Ali Oxenpoop, calling themselves Abu CaaCaa, and taking themselves all too seriously. I can't thnk of any dictator who didn't have the same issues, can you?

Posted by: Bithead on November 2, 2005 09:03 AM

Precious:

"Moreover, you should speak about your body, its strength and its muscles, and about the fact that you are playing as [a means of] training to run... and retreat in preparation for [waging] jihad for Allah's sake."

(#12 from the translation)

Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta on November 2, 2005 09:22 AM

I have it on good authority that radical muslims (Is there any other kind, really?) do not have a sense of humor.

Yes, there are many that are not radical, I've met a number of they who don't wear their religion on their sleeve and in fact had a great sense of humor. Ali my admin assistant at Incirlik Airbase in Turkey for example -
"I smoke, drink and cheat on my wife but I'm a good Muslim." That was pretty funny and he sincerely meant that.
My interpreter Satar in Kabul, my driver Mohammed in Egypt - they were just plain, ordinary good people who would just laugh if they read this and shrug it off.
I agree though that radical Muslims have no sense of humor, if you embrace Islam that feverently there is no room for humor. Fortunately most are pretty easy to spot.

Posted by: MTW on November 2, 2005 11:36 AM

MEMRI link no longer works... Please update so I can show to my buddy who lives, eats and breathes that sillyass European excuse for football?

Posted by: DaveP. on November 2, 2005 01:36 PM
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