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August 25, 2005
Pat Robertson And (Sigh) Media Double-StandardsThe Corner's Stephen Spruiell: Your World Today is covering Pat Robertson's comment that the U.S. should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez as if Dick Cheney had said it. CNN just aired a segment live from Havana and is promising more to come this hour. ... I'm not trying to defend Pat Robertson, but there's a totally different standard for conservatives who say crazy things than liberals -- especially anti-war liberals -- who do. True. And to be honest, this just feels like ginned-up slow-news-month August outrage to me-- and conservative bloggers, trying to show they're respectable, are falling over themselves to condemn Robertson. I have no use for Robertson myself. But last time I checked, asssassination was something we as a country were not necessarily adverse to in an extreme situation. We certainly wouldn't shy away from knocking off Kim Jong Il if we had a shot (and thought it was likely to produce a change in that regime's behavior, for the better). Hugo Chavez is an anti-American, terrorist-supporting thug who continues to rule against the public's wishes, but intimidating the opposition and engaging in wholesale election fraud. He is a tyrant who cannot simply be voted out of office; he will not permit that. I think Robertson was engaging a little too freely in irresponsible tough-guy talk which ultimately gives this paranoid princeling more reason to be paranoid, but there's few Americans, even in the State Department, who would weep if the Venezuelans themselves took this bastard out of office forcibly, or even lethally. Should we be involved? Almost certainly not. He's not that much of a threat to us that we should take the great risk of engaging in or assisting in the assassination of the "leader" of a South American state, especially with our history of meddling their (and South Americans understandable suspicious about our use of power). But the media and the left are trumping this fairly minor off-the-cuff bit of James Bond fantasization into some major story exposing the right as crackpots. Meanwhile, Saint Cindy, Our Lady of Perpetual Publicity, speaks at a Lynne Stewart rally which asks the question "Should we support the Iraqi resistance?" and that information is virtually embargoed. posted by Ace at 10:45 AM
CommentsIt always seems that talking about assassinating someone guaruntees that bastard will be with us forever. Thanks alot Pat. Posted by: Iblis on August 25, 2005 10:51 AM
Why is Lynne Stewart still free? I've never heard of a 6 month continuance for sentencing. I sure hope the judge doesn't allow her out on bail after sentencing. Posted by: on August 25, 2005 10:54 AM
Hey, double standards are great. It allows Ward Churchill to get a raise and Michael Graham to get fired. What Liberal doesn't like double-standards? Posted by: Chris Short on August 25, 2005 10:57 AM
It's an article of faith that the Religious Right has complete and absolute control over the Republican Party. Thus, whenever some religious right idiotarian says something stupid, the media will puff him up to pretend he's more relevant than he actually is. Because it exposes how horrible Republicans are, as epitomized by Pat Robertson, who controls the Republican Party. Posted by: David C on August 25, 2005 10:57 AM
Pat Robertson is to Christianity as Al Sharpton is to the civil rights movement. Any Christian who watches the 700 Club needs to go to church more often. I've always said that 'Christian TV' has done more harm then a thousand Madeline Murray O'Hare's could ever dream of. I won't defend him even if there is a grain of truth in what he said. Posted by: BrewFan on August 25, 2005 11:18 AM
Ugh. Pat Robertson. If he didn't exist, some lefty would have to invent him. Heyyyyy. There's a conspiracy theory I could get behind. Posted by: S. Weasel on August 25, 2005 11:30 AM
Where do you think Kos came from? You don't think people like that really make it on their own, do you? Posted by: Karl Rove on August 25, 2005 11:36 AM
http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/08/25/whats-good-for-the-goose-2/ Posted by: trey on August 25, 2005 11:54 AM
If Mother/Saint Sheehan and Aruba-scouring MILF Beth Holloway-Twitty were put in front of the same TV camera at the same time would the entire cable news universe collapse around them in a singularity that even Geraldo's moustache could not escape? Discuss amongst yourselves. Posted by: Jack M. on August 25, 2005 12:14 PM
Given how much of our oil comes out of Venezuela, I would have had the SOB killed already if I was President. Posted by: SGT Dan on August 25, 2005 12:34 PM
Okay ...I actually responded to Byron York with an email (which I'm including here) on this very subject a few minutes ago ...PUH-LEEZE note that I specifically approached this from the perspective of a Robertson follower ...and do NOT assume that EVERYthing I say reflects my personal thought-through beliefs and sentiments. Sigh. Not that this disclaimer is going to matter: Email to Byron York (NRO) Byron -Sincerely yada-yada. I do whole-heartedly agree with the observation that this must be a slow news month. And that Roberts is such an easy target. Posted by: brandon davis on August 25, 2005 12:40 PM
I've never been a huge fan of Pat Robertson, and think his latest foolishness should force Christians who consider him a leader to reconsider that view. His comments about Chavez are harmful because he has now made it a lot harder for missionaries to do their jobs in Central America. As the Christianity Today blog points out, he's not always so critical of dictators, especially when they are his business partners. The media's double standards on this sort of thing bother me, but I think Robertson is completely worthy of the criticism he gets. Posted by: Slublog on August 25, 2005 12:42 PM
I believe that Big Media's double-standards attack on Robertson has actually backfired on them. Until the coordinated assault on Robertson took place, Chavez had fallen off of the radar screen. Now everyone is aware of him and the problem he poses for the US and for Latin America. If and when we have to do something about him and/or Fidel, the public will have a much better understanding of why we're doing it. Posted by: max on August 25, 2005 12:56 PM
Any bets on whether in their haste to point out just how widely Robertson is 'respected' on the right, the MSM will mention that he aligns himself with the anti-war crowd in the case of Iraq? I won't be holding my breath for that little piece of info to be repeated ad infinitum. Bias, what freaking bias? You people are just paranoid. Posted by: Defense Guy on August 25, 2005 01:01 PM
Should we be involved? Almost certainly not. I really like Robertson and agree with him completely. But blabbering about it now precludes our doing it, as we'd have no chance of avoiding all the bad PR it would now entail. And Chavez is most definately a threat to us. Castro drove us ragged for decades and Liberals said he was not threat to us either. This guy has oil and a terrorist haven in the Americas we don't need. We should get rid of him any way we can as soon as possible. Posted by: 72 VIRGINS on August 25, 2005 01:15 PM
We have held the entire nation of Cuba under embargoes for decades. We've tried to ruin their economy and kill their leader -- and you think Castro has driven us ragged and he's a threat to us? In what way is little Cuba a threat to us or our way of life? I'd just like to hear a tangible way in which Cuba threatens us today or in the last 15 years since they haven't been supported by the Warsaw pact? And, can we at least remember that Hugo Chavez was elected with a strong majority in 2 separate elections which were observed by international monitors? He is not a dictator. The Bush administration immediately upon taking office, tried to foment a military coup there to put an unelected dictator in office. Chavez has a rather novel idea -- his radical concept is that the poor and working classes of his country should, in some way, share in the profits of Venezuala's oil production. If Robertson and people like him were true to the spirit of their own Savior's words, they would applaud Hugo Chavez. Posted by: Bill on August 25, 2005 02:13 PM
This post also makes the claim that there was election fraud. What exactly is the basis for that claim. Is it, as it was in the Ukraine, a difference between exit polls and results? In the Ukraine, the difference between exit polls and results were about 5%, and that was enough for our government to demand a re-vote. Was it something like this in Venezuela? If there was a difference like this, I agree that the election should be investigated. Of course, keep in mind that the difference between exit polls and results were greater than in the Ukraine, about 5.2%, in our last presidential election, so be careful what you ask for. Posted by: Bill on August 25, 2005 02:20 PM
"If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer. I mean, you get through this [book], and you say, 'We've got to blow that thing up.'" I believe that quote was Dowdified. I had read somewhere that he had a guest on his show and he was basically repeating what the guy said in his book. Or something likt that. Anyway, I'm not a Robertson supporter or anything, but this is just another example of the media's double standard. My local leftist rag (the Baltimore Sun) ran a three column story on this and then had another editorial bitching at Bush for not condemning him enough (but yet if it was a lefty who said something stupid and the president did more than what he did here, they'd be crying about censorship). Posted by: Steve on August 25, 2005 03:15 PM
Without reciting the long history of Castro and the Cuban "revoloution" Cuba became the base for the export of Soviet nuclear missles aimed at US cities, and Soviet Marxism for decades. We had to counter Cuban troops all over the Americas, especially in El Salvador, Panama, Honduras and Nicarauga. The last such serious challenge was in South Africa where Cuban troops and agitators tried to overthrow the government of our source of titaium. And they put us into the position of propping up a truly racist regime or lose one of the seven strategis minerals which all industrialized economies must have. And the proof that we were not just bad guys trying to oppress SA's can be found in the fact that as soon as the Soviet Union collapsed so did our support for AS, and the regime collapsed. Castro has supported terrorist regimes all over the globe and still does, including Islamic ones. This would have been a much better world if we hadn't been forced to chase after the fires of communism that Castro was helping to ignite wherever he could. Its a pity that a Liberal Democrat like JFK was unable to kill him, tried as he might. Posted by: 72 VIRGINS on August 25, 2005 03:21 PM
You see, 72Virgins, as a true believer in our system, I always saw cold warriors as people without sufficient confidence in the integrity of our system. I don't happen to think that we actually did have to "chase after the fires of communism" for all those years. I never really cared whether any country in the world used an economic or political system different from ours. We traded with the USSR and China during the Cold War. Why was the USSR's wheat appropriate, but not Cuban cigars? I don't think tensions with the Communist bloc was ever in the better interests of the American people. Communism could have never happened in this country for a variety of reasons despite the hysterical suspicions of the right wing. I don't see why a communist Chile was a threat to us and I don't see why a semi-socialist Venezuela is a threat. Our system is robust enough to stand on its own merits. Posted by: Bill on August 25, 2005 04:55 PM
Pass me another H. Uppman "Churchill", please. Posted by: SGT Dan on August 25, 2005 05:53 PM
"I never really cared whether any country in the world used an economic or political system different from ours." Funny, Pat Buchanan agrees with you 100%. Strange bedfellows ... Posted by: Knemon on August 27, 2005 12:30 AM
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What? Skeleton of the most famous Musketeer, D'Artagnan, possibly discovered in Dutch church closet.
Dumas picked four names of real musketeers out of a history book, D'Artagnan, Athos, Aramis, and Porthos. So there was an actual D'Artagnan, though he made most of the story up. (Or, you know, all of it.)* Charles de Batz de Castelmore, known as d'Artagnan, the famous musketeer of Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV, spent his life in the service of the French crown. A lot of Dumas's stories are based on bits of real history. The plot of the >Three Musketeers, about trying to recover lost diamonds from the queen's necklace, was cribbed from the then-almost-contemporaneous Affair of the Queen's Necklace. And the Man in the Iron Mask is based on real accounts of a prisoner forced to wear a mask (though I think it was a velvet mask). * Oh, I should mention, Dumas says all this, about finding the names in an old book, in the prologue to his novel. But authors lie a lot. They frequently present fictions as based on historic fact. The twist is, he was actually telling the truth here. At least about these four musketeers having actually existed and served under Louis XIV. Fun fact: You know the beginning of A Fistful of Dollars where the local gunslingers make fun of Clint Eastwood's donkey and Eastwood demands they apologize to the donkey? That's lifted from The Three Musketeers. Rochefort mocks D'Artagnan's old, brokedown farm horse and D'Artagnan is incensed.
A commenter asked which should be read first, The Hobbit of LOTR?
Easy, no question -- read The Hobbit first. It's actually the start of the story and comes first chronologically. It sets up some major characters and major pieces in play in LOTR. Also, the Hobbit is Beginner-Friendly, which LOTR isn't. The Hobbit really is a delightful book, and a fast read. It's chatty, it's casual, it's exciting, and it's funny. In that dry cheeky British humor way. I love that the narrator is constantly making little asides and commentary, like he's just sitting next to you telling you this story as it occurs to him. LOTR is a very long story. Fifteen hundred pages or so. The Hobbit is relatively short and very punchy and easy to read. If you don't like The Hobbit, you can skip out on LOTR. If you do like it, you'll be primed to read LOTR. Oh, I should say: The Hobbit is written as if it's for children, but one of those smart children's stories that are also for adults. Don't worry, there's also real fighting and violence and horror in it, too. LOTR is written for adults. (It's said that Tolkien wrote both for his children, but LOTR was written 17 years later, when his children were adults.) Some might not like The Hobbit due to its sometimes frivolous tone. Me, I love it. I find it constantly amusing. Both are really good but there is a starkly different tone to both. LOTR is epic, grand, and serious, about a world war, The Hobbit is light and breezy, and about a heist. Though a heist that culminates in a war for the spoils.
The Hobbit Challenge: Read two more chapters. I didn't have much time. Bilbo got the ring.
I noticed a continuity problem. Maybe. Now, as of the time of The Hobbit, it was unknown that this magic ring was in fact a Ring of Power, and it was doubly unknown that it was the Ring of Power, the Master Ring that controlled the others. But the narrator -- who we will learn in LOTR was none of than Bilbo himself, who wrote the book as "There and Back Again" -- says this about Gollum's ring: "But who knows how Gollum had come by that present [the Ring], ages ago in the old days when such rings were still at large in the world? Perhaps even the Master who ruled them could not have said." In another passage, the ring is identified as a "ring of power." I don't know, I always thought there was a distinction between mere magic rings and the Rings of Power created by Sauron. But this suggests that Bilbo knew this was a ring of power created by Sauron. Now I don't remember when Bilbo wrote the Hobbit. In the movie, he shows Frodo the book in Rivendell, and I guess he wrote it after he left the Shire. I guess he might have added in the part about the ring being a ring of power created by "the Master" after Gandalf appraised him of his research into the ring. I never noticed this before. I know Tolkien re-wrote this chapter while he was writing LOTR to make the ring important from the start. And also to make Gollum more sinister and evil, and also to remove the part where Gollum actually offers Bilbo the ring as a "present" -- Bilbo had already found it on his own, but Gollum was wiling to give it away, which obviously is not something the rewritten Gollum would ever do. But I had no memory of the ring being suggested to be The Ring so early in the tale.
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Tomorrow is March 25th, "Tolkien Reading Day," because March 25th is the day when the Ring is destroyed in the book. I think I'm going to start the Hobbit tomorrow and read all four books this time.
The only bad part of the trilogy are the Frodo/Sam chapters in The Two Towers. They're repetitive, slow, and mostly about the weather and terrain. But most everything else is good. Weirdly, the Frodo-Sam chapters in Return of the King are exciting and action-packed and among the best in the trilogy. (Though the chapters with everyone else in Return of the King get pretty slow again. Mostly people talking about marching towards war, and then marching towards war.)
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