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January 12, 2005

Racial Humor

This is a difficult subject to write about, obviously, since people have so many different -- and deeply felt -- opinions on the subject.

I'm curious, though-- why does Oliver Willis presume himself permitted to keep harping on Michelle Malkin's Filipino heritage?

Let's put aside, for the moment, the question of whether a black person can demean another black person in the most thuggishly racist of terms.

Willis is black; Malkin is Fillipino. Even if we accept, for the sake of argument, that blacks are allowed to call each other "Uncle Tom," "Aunt Jemima" and worse (much worse), how does that "rule," if it is a rule, extend to Willis' attacks on Malkin?

Is he extending the rule to say that any minority can use racially-charged attacks on any other minority? Would he say, then, that a Korean or Hassidim can attack him on racial grounds?

I doubt it. I doubt that very much.

I think there's too much PC in the world. I don't like when people attack me for plainly-inoffensive jokes, just because they might have a racial or "homophobic" component, and I don't really relish applying this same thin-skinned standard to Willis.

But the left has announced these standards; they are the ones who most zealously prosecute racial "wrongdoing." They're the first ones to cry "racism" or "homophobia."

If they're going to employ such a strict standard against their enemies, doesn't it behoove them to observe that strict standard themselves?

Otherwise, we might begin to think that they're really not so committed to the idea of tolerance, color-blindness, and exquisitely finely-tuned racial senstitivity, so much as they're committed to using these standards as political clubs against their enemies while freely indulging in the occasional bit of race-baiting themselves.

We might begin to suspect that, you understand.

I think we should all give each other a bit of a break on these matters, myself.

Much of it depends on context and the spirit in which the joke is intended, of course. But I find that those on the left stubbornly refuse to take context and spirit into account when they're dealing with those on the right.

For example:

A long time ago Ann Coulter wrote an article in which she pointed out that Dick Clarke had singled out Condi Rice as being utterly clueless about Al Qaeda. Ann Coulter made the point that, were Clarke Republican-friendly rather than Democrat-friendly, there would have been a predictably obnoxious firestorm of outrage over his singling out a black woman as being incompetent, while not making similar charges against any white guys in the Bush Administration.

A fair point, I think.

So, to amplify Coulter's point in a humorous manner, I wrote Top Ten Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her, errrm, Appearance. (The link may take you too high; you will probably have to scroll down.)

Now, the whole point of the Top Ten was to accuse Dick Clarke of the most retrograde and absurd sort of racism. I didn't really think he was guilty of such racism; but I was exaggerating for comic effect. And of course Condi Rice wasn't a target at all; and neither, of course, was her race. I was defending her, in a roundabout, attack-her-enemies way.

The list got republished in a lot of forums. And I still remember one obnoxious liberals' comment on the list:

That must be the most racist thing I have ever read in my life.

Racist, she was saying, because I was accusing Clarke of having very over-the-top racist beliefs about Condi Rice. It just did not dawn on her at all that I was not endorsing such beliefs, but putting them into Clarke's mouth in order to attack him.

Either it didn't dawn on her, or she just deliberately ignored the clear intent of the piece in order to call a conservative a racist.

Either way. She was either stupid or an opportunistic and unprincipled partisan.

We see this all the time. Liberal comedians are permitted to make what I call "ironic racist" jokes-- they're not actually endorsing the racist remark; they're parodizing it in order to demean the sort of people who really do think such things -- and liberal crowds whoop and clap and laugh, understanding perfectly well that Jon Stewart (or whoever) had good motives in making the joke.

But they seem to utterly refuse to even contemplate the possibility that a conservative might similarly have good motives for such joking.

Jon Steward and I could make the exact same joke, with the exact same intent, but liberals would hoot for him and call me a racist.

It gets old, guys. We're tired of the double standard, and if you were more principled -- or simply more civil in dealing with political opponents -- you would also be tired of the double-standard.

What does this have to do with ol' Ollie? I'm not sure if has anything to do with it. Filet-O-Fish does seem to be making racial-allusions, if not racial insults, against someone he clearly despises; there doesn't seem to be any irony in his joke. He calls Michelle Malkin "Michelle Malagang" to emphasize she's Fillipino, for no particular reason I can divine.

I don't think he'd like it much if someone began referring to him as Oliver Chaka Zulu or something. And yet that would be the same sort of "joke."

So what is it, Oliver? Is that sort of "joke" permitted or not? it cannot be the case that you have license to indulge in race-baiting while your opponents are to be castigated for it.

Either live up to the standard you impose on your opponents or clean up your own goddamned act.

Wills is In Good Company, At Least! Check out the very thoughtful, tolerant emails Michelle Malkin gets day after day from enlightened, racially sensitive liberals:

Hi Self hating flat nosed Filipino Bitch! As we used to refer to your kind - little brown Fucking Machines. Looks like this little LBFM learned to whore in a different way to make some pesos. How sweet.

Classy.


posted by Ace at 04:03 PM
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i admit it-im racist. i wasnt always. its just that the older i get the more silly hypocritical crap i see on tv and im just sick of it. Its easier to just start hating other races then it is to try to explain to them how a double standard exists in america when it comes to racism.

Posted by: amish on January 12, 2005 04:11 PM

amish news update:


http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2005011210290001122221&dt=20050112102900&w=APO&coview=


"the horse pulling the buggy was not injured"-thats the most important part of the story right?

Posted by: atomic_amish on January 12, 2005 04:15 PM

well, I don't think that's a very good position to take.

I believe in tolerance and such. I just don't like it when "tolerance" is used as an opportunistic political weapon.

I think our society has become less racist, less homophobic, less sexist, and generally more tolerant of differences, and I think that's a good thing, and I hope it continues.

I believe the left can be justifiably pround of its contributions to this trend.

But if they want the trend to continue, they really need to be more principled about tolerance.

Posted by: ace on January 12, 2005 04:16 PM

> it cannot be the case that you have license to indulge in race-baiting while your opponents are to be castigated for it

Wrong. By Leftist reasoning, it can be, and is, the case. Any means are justifiable in the struggle against privilege. Whittaker Chambers' "Witness" is an excellent book on the subject.

Posted by: Guy T. on January 12, 2005 04:20 PM

Double standards, from the left??
When you're done scratching the surface with their 'humor', why don't we discuss "equality for all" vs 'affirmative action'? Or pro-abortion, yet anti- death penalty? Anti-gun Feinstein and Boxer, who both hold concealed weapons permits? Etc etc etc...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on January 12, 2005 04:23 PM
Oliver Chaka Zulu
ROFLMAO. Uh oh.
Posted by: fat kid on January 12, 2005 04:25 PM

"Even if we accept, for the sake of argument, that blacks are allowed (my emphasis) to call each other "Uncle Tom," "Aunt Jemima" and worse..."

Well under the constitution we are all allowed to say these things. Offensive speech is protected speech after all.

People should be able to say what's on their mind - and bear the consequences.

The high road would be to simply call the race-baiters on their outrageous hypocrisy, and not play their Political Correctness game.

The high road sucks.

Posted by: lauraw on January 12, 2005 04:35 PM

funny how the existence of non-white conservatives causes the left to show their true colors and degenerate into name-calling stupors

Posted by: johnnyH on January 12, 2005 04:37 PM

"It just did not dawn on her at all that I was not endorsing such beliefs, but putting them into Clarke's mouth in order to attack him."

There isn't a whole lot that dawns on the left, period.

Posted by: Sailor Kenshin on January 12, 2005 04:37 PM

Seriously, Ace, why bother? Oliver is allowed to have double-standards. He's a progressive democrat.
That's. just. the fucking. way. it is.

Posted by: Trevor on January 12, 2005 04:59 PM

"But if they want the trend to continue, they really need to be more principled about tolerance."

The only thing the Left is principled about is their intolerence for anyone and anything that challenges their beliefs. Whether its political correctness, affirmative action, abortion rights or the very definition of what a right is, the only thing they are consistent about is their disdain for the individual who dares to challenge their orthodoxy. Anything the Left tosses out in the form of tolerance, compasion, etc is just a smoke screen. The entire goal of the Left remains the same which is the development of a utopian social order where a group of elites controls everything while the rest of humanity is relegated to serfdom. Think of Jules Verne's Time Machine with the Morloks replaced by Hillary Clinton and Margaret Cho...you know, similar hair but not quite as good looking.

Classic Liberalism rooted in individualism and judeo-christian philosophy is the greatest force for the promotion of tolerance ever created by mankind because it is based on the principle that we are all created equal. It seems to me that pretty much everythig that the Left does these days is a far cry from this principle, which makes it pretty damn intolerant.

Posted by: WindyCity on January 12, 2005 05:09 PM

I think that the reason Willis calls Malkin "Mataglang" is that that's her maiden (and legal) name, and Malkin is her married name. I think he's trying to accuse her of passing or something.

Still, it's pretty ugly. If I made a point of calling Geraldo Rivera "Geraldo Rifkin" every chance I got, people might start to think I was an anti-semite.

Posted by: J Mann on January 12, 2005 05:12 PM

I would submit that the use of racial epithets (and double standards in the use thereof) has little to do with political philosophy and more to do with the character of the speaker. I find that those who, in the course of a political disagreement, are inclined to notice a person's race at all - not to mention those who do so pejoratively - usually have little else in their stockpile of ideas. Such people are, as Mr. Anka might put it, not giving "full value" to the universe for their existence.

Posted by: The Claw on January 12, 2005 05:16 PM

Well put The Claw.

Posted by: BrewFan on January 12, 2005 06:03 PM

Funny to see this writ large and small, everywhere. I have heard identical remarks made by whites and by minorities. When the white person made the remark, the minority called her a racist. When, a few weeks later, the minority made the identical remark - and I mean even the same words! - he claimed it wasn't bigoted.

To which the only reply is, "Why not? Because you're not caucasian, it's ok?"

Evidently, that's what the left thinks.

Posted by: Dianna on January 12, 2005 06:06 PM

I won't link it directly, but there is a database out there with (currently 2,356) racial slurs. All you have to do is google "racial slur database" - that's where I first saw LBFM. Shit,I should start a blog called BWFM. Heh.

Posted by: fat kid on January 12, 2005 06:19 PM

Willis is the biggest numnut I have ever seen. It amazes me how much of a hack the guy is. Inconsistent, angry, and just a plain moron. I still cannot believe he has a following. 90% of his posts the last few days have been on"payola gate". Not one on the Rather fallout. The left just does not get it. To be considered to have some sort of intellectual
integrity, you have to call BS on your own brethren(left) also. He just can't get himself to do it.

Posted by: on January 12, 2005 07:05 PM

The only political parties that make race a part of their philosophy are facists. From my understanding all other parties acknowledge racism as wrong, plain and simple. I agree with The Claw's point that it is to do with the speakers personality/character.

Posted by: John on January 12, 2005 07:35 PM

Not a big fan of Oliver Willis' comments my own self - and even less so those of Malkin's "correspondents" - but what are we to make of Ann's theory that Richard Clarke would have been flamed mercilessly by those big, meanie liberals when we consider what happened to Harry Reid? Could it be that both sides are equally anxious to play the race card when it suits them?

I think it might.

Posted by: Auguste on January 12, 2005 08:08 PM

hey guys, im starting a band- Filthy Adolf and the Little Brown Fucking Machines-and im lookin for roadies. interested?


Posted by: atomic on January 12, 2005 08:24 PM

Only if I get to be the only important one on the stage, Atomic.

Posted by: Brian B on January 12, 2005 08:51 PM

your hired. i have to worn you though-loose shit will not be tolerated- i expect full value for my money.
Drop your application off with Joe.


Posted by: a-a on January 12, 2005 08:58 PM


Atomic said
"hey guys, im starting a band- Filthy Adolf and the Little Brown Fucking Machines-and im lookin for roadies. interested? "

I once did Lighting for Paul Anka, I give full value, my shit is tight, I know how to put knowledge and I can Slice like a you-know-what.... call me.

Posted by: Man of Substance on January 12, 2005 09:18 PM

I'm in too! But only if we get shirts. We do get shirts right?

Posted by: Enas Yorl on January 12, 2005 09:19 PM

What the hell???

Posted by: Man of Substance on January 12, 2005 09:20 PM

dont worry; The Guys-Get -Shirts

Posted by: atomic-amish on January 12, 2005 09:47 PM

Remember -- for the left, the only "real" blacks are leftist blacks. The only "real" Filipinos are leftist Filipinos. Can't let 'em get too uppity, you know.

Posted by: someone on January 12, 2005 11:01 PM

As a moderate Republican I had some issues with the Republicans prior to the last election. It just bothers me to see big companies layoff little guys when the execs make such heinously large salaries.

Bottom line is that I could've voted for the right democrat. Living in Florida I would've voted for Bob Graham who incidently did vote against the war in Iraq because he felt that Iran and Saudi Arabia were the real sponsors of terror in the world, rightly so. But I was so turned off by the level of hatred displayed by the democratic websites and also most ordinary dem's I talked with. They were arrogant and mean spirited.

Calling Bush a monkey and the way they talked about southern people in general made me realize just how hateful these people were. As far as I'm concerned Willis is just another one of them. The whole party is spiraling into irrelevance along with their MSM enablers.

Posted by: RR on January 12, 2005 11:38 PM
It just bothers me to see big companies layoff little guys when the execs make such heinously large salaries.
Dude, I'm a *PEON* and when I'm here till 10-11 at night, guess who's also still here? The execs. When I'm getting here at 8 AM the next day, guess who's already been here for 2 hours. The execs.

It really bugs me how people buy into this whole "heinously large paycheck" shit. Not a single one of us knows what it takes to run a friggin Fortune 100/500/1000 company - so until we walk a mile in their shoes, we should all STFU. And seeing as how most of us are too dumb/lazy to be in that position, guess what, yeahp, we should continue to STFU. If you're so smart and you've got it all figured out, go start your own Microsoft.

/rant

However daunting that may all sound, a good start would be to go read Atlas Shrugged. Or, get off the damn computer and start writing business plans. =)

Now, back to doing the work I'm supposed to be doing.

Posted by: fat kid on January 13, 2005 12:03 AM

Wow. That sounded way too angry. Sorry about that. Wasn't meant to be. Just another one of those things that irks me, like when people say (women in particular), "You GO GIRL! You worked SOOOO hard [by doing those 3 sit ups] you deSERRRRVE that double-fudge chocolate fudge brownie cookie!"

That ish bugs me too.

-Fat Kid signing off now

Posted by: fat kid on January 13, 2005 12:05 AM

A liberal might say that making any sweeping generality would be in poor taste. Of course try getting through a day without making any generalities at all. So point one: a liberal would deny reason and the way man's mind works to make their own ridiculous point and further their own agenda.

That said, and speaking of generalities, it seems like the world was a better place when people smoked and wore hats.

Posted by: John on January 13, 2005 01:04 AM

Am I the only person who assumed that Michelle Malkin was multi-racial? This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, I just always assumed that she was some combination of black and asian.

Posted by: CraigC on January 13, 2005 01:25 AM

Am I the only person who assumed that Michelle Malkin was multi-racial?

Uh, yes.

Posted by: julie on January 13, 2005 03:09 AM

Fat kid: Would you say that have begun working 500% harder over the last fifteen years? Just curious.

Posted by: Auguste on January 13, 2005 03:17 AM

It's shocking to realize what the Left has become:


1) The party of race hatred and bigotry


(Recall Maxine Waters comments about OH Secy. State Blackwell the other day, and Harry Reid's slurs against Clarence Thomas)


2) The anti-democracy party


The Democrats will no longer accept the outcome of any election they don't win and can't steal.


3) The mouthpieces of America's enemies


Seditionist Mike al-Moore shared a place of honor in the Presidential Box at the Democratic Convention; Kerry calls the courageous PM of Iraq a liar and a puppet; half the Congressional Black Caucus are Castro-worshippers, and Senator Patty Murray sings the praises of Osama Bin-Laden the philantropist; the list goes on...


The threat they represent to our democracy and the social fabric our country is underappreciated. What we've seen the last few elections is only going to get worse. We need to politically eviscerate (within the law) these nut cases and drive the radical elements out of power, so a moderate, loyal, democratic opposition can take their place. It's clear already they've learned nothing from repeated defeats at the polls, except that they need to try even more outrageous tactics to polarize the country and corrupt the electoral system next time.

Posted by: LagunaDave on January 13, 2005 04:38 AM

Auguste, I'd remind you of two things when your reading that article. (1) Supply and demand and (2) risk. The fact of the matter is there is a limited supply of people that can effectively run a fortune 500 Company, let alone fewer that can actually rescue a Company from impending disaster or Chapter11. Given this and the fact that the risk of losing your job, or even better being investigated by the SEC, is higher than its ever been in the executive business I'd say the majority of salaries are justified. I used to trump the bitter "fatcats" line in college feeling morally justified because they were just in it for the money. Now that I've had the opportunity to work for a Fortune 500 business and see how these people work I've realized I didn't know what the hell I was talking about.

Posted by: gibs. on January 13, 2005 09:29 AM

Back to Willis for a sec.
Maybe he's got a crush on her?
You know how pre-pubescent guys act around the girls they like.

Posted by: KurtP on January 13, 2005 03:08 PM
Back to Willis for a sec. Maybe he's got a crush on her? You know how pre-pubescent guys act around the girls they like.

I still think that was Andrew Sullivan's problem too with her come to think of it.

Posted by: Elric on January 13, 2005 03:20 PM

"However daunting that may all sound, a good start would be to go read Atlas Shrugged. Or, get off the damn computer and start writing business plans. =)"

fat kid,

Actually I have a business degree and have worked for GE and Lockheed Martin. I also have a business and have written business plans. I'm also an investor and know the value of good management. My opinion is somewhat informed. I'm not lazy and I don't perceive most people to be that way.

Did that make you feel tough to pound out that rebuttal on your keyboard? So you have some pet peeves. I'm the same way about people who apologize then make an excuse.

Posted by: RR on January 13, 2005 07:18 PM

fatkid apologized so whats the problem bitch?

Posted by: amish on January 13, 2005 07:32 PM

RR im sorry. that sounded way to angry. wasnt meant to be.

Posted by: amish on January 13, 2005 07:33 PM

oops-i screwed up again. You dont like people who apologize then make an excuse do you?

"My opinion is somewhat informed"

Posted by: amish on January 13, 2005 07:36 PM

Do you really thing it has to do with race or values? I think the left is so obcessed with "winning" that they don't even remember what they (were) fighting for and just say and do whatever they think will move their agenda forward. ...and the end justifies the means

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