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November 11, 2004
US Adds 600 Iraqi Terrorists to Arafat's Hellbound PosseThat's their estimate, at least, which I'm guessing is pretty inflated. Hard to count bodies in the heat of battle. Still-- they're obviously killing a lot of these thugs. It's good to read this: In one of the most dramatic clashes Wednesday, snipers fired on U.S. and Iraqi troops from the minarets of the Khulafah al-Rashid mosque, the military said. U.S. Marines called in an airstrike, and an F-18 dropped a 500-pound bomb on the mosque, destroying both minarets. Not that I necessarily am I big fan of blowing up mosques, but it's a sign that that the commanders here are serious. posted by Ace at 12:14 PM
CommentsOnce these terrorist loser realize they can't hide in hospitals, schools and mosques, they will know their days are numbered. Maybe we are learning that you can't fight this war with them tactics of the last one. Posted by: Steve L. on November 11, 2004 12:23 PM
Finally: Rules of engagement that make sense. Posted by: Patton on November 11, 2004 12:32 PM
Hats off to the future veterans. Kick ass. Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer on November 11, 2004 12:53 PM
I have to disagree with your stance on blowing up mosques. I am a big fan of blowing up mosques that have snipers in the minarets... Posted by: Qur'an Pundit on November 11, 2004 01:00 PM
Finally: Rules of engagement that make sense. And about f*cking time too. Posted by: W on November 11, 2004 01:01 PM
It might not be as hard to keep track of enemy KIA as you think, as shown in this article. They can't go outside without being seen. If you can see it, you can kill it. Behind him, the pilot of the UAV adjusted the flight path as his partner tightened the zoom on the plane's camera. The images on the screen jumped slightly and focused on two black spots hopping from place to place behind an earthen berm. "I confirm weapons," said Sg. Jenifer Forman, an imagery analyst. "Watch their right arms when they run. They're shooting across the river." When the black spots bobbed together, the screen suddenly bloomed white, then settled back into focus, showing a thick gray cloud and a scattering of small black spots, like someone in the cloud had thrown out a handful of rocks. "Tank gun got them," Neumann said. "Picked them up on their thermals. They're scratched. Scan up the street." Posted by: Larry J on November 11, 2004 01:03 PM
The King called out his jet-fighters Posted by: DaveP. on November 11, 2004 01:29 PM
ACE - I think the 600 number is realistic. Though they don't publicize it, the military is tracking bodycounts closely and the circumstances where the bad guys were taken out so that they don't have to pay out when the deceased baddie's family shows up claiming the dude was an innocent civilian caught in the crossfire. And the Marines and Army are there to kill, not capture or repel the enemy - or ignore them if they make it into the Mosques that used to be safe harbor... The US forces were primed by commanders saying this is their shot at payback for their buddies killed by IEDs made by the bad guys....and indications are they are killing the thugs, killing massively, and killing with relish and glee! Also nice to see the Iraqi troops are imbued with the same sense of happy payback after their recruits and soldiers have been hit repeatedly by the thugs - sometimes executed in cold blood. Posted by: Cedarford on November 11, 2004 02:02 PM
As a general rule, blowing up places of worship is to be avoided, sure, but in each of the buildings the Marines captured in Fallujah, they all had large stockpiles of weapons (e.g. the hospital). Blowing up Mosques = maybe not. Blowing up Ammo depots that only look like mosques = definitely Blowing up ammo depots that look like mosques and hold about 50 "insurgent" motherfuckers with 500 lbs. bombs = a thing of fucking beauty Posted by: hobgoblin on November 11, 2004 02:50 PM
The assertion that our troops kill with relish and glee is at best uninformed, at worst a despicable slander. Those who make that assertion should try getting their news and perspective from someplace other than Al-Reuters or AFP. Posted by: BrewFan on November 11, 2004 03:16 PM
The "Iraqi journalist" they quoted (anonymously, for his protection) about halfway down the piece is the same bozo the BBC quoted by name claiming the U.S. blew up a makeshift hospital and killed all the doctors and patients. LGF has more info on this guy. Frickin' AP. Posted by: Ken Hall on November 11, 2004 04:08 PM
BrewFan - Clearly you have never been in the military. Or watched the news that shows the reaction of a five-man Army fire squad ventilating Iraqi insurgents bearing weaponry. Few things make a soldier happier than seeing a building full of bad guys shooting at them being blown to smithereens from a tank round they personally aimed and fired. Or dropping a enemy with a rifle shot. The Marine snipers do not go out with grief counselers to get them through their sobbing guilt following their whacking someone at 600 yds carrying a RPG. Or being part of a targeting team call - something I am acquainted with - that results in a bomb or cruise missile catching 8-10 bad guys with a ticket to Paradise, according to the battlefield assessment report. Elation. Satisfaction with a job well done. As the Duvall character said alluding to the "smell of napalm in the morning" - the sweet smell of victory! Despicable slander? No, reality. War isn't Marquis de Queensbury. It's seeing 10 Syrians going across the border in infrared - utterly clueless they are in danger - then dropping a 1,000 lb bomb on them with no warning, no opportunity to surrender. Shooting fleeing insurgents in the back. Blasting a car with 25-mm cannon, even though there is a woman in the car along with the gunman - and wishing you had a beer to celebrate! Do US soldiers wantonly kill? Seek to maximize death? Of course not! But the motto of breaking things and killing people to make the mission succeed is true, and our guys do their job very well...with few, if any regrets. Posted by: Cedarford on November 11, 2004 06:28 PM
Soldiers don't kill with relish and glee. The adrinline is high and you are just glad you did't let anyone down and you got them before they got you. Emotions!!! You made it. Posted by: Screaming Eagle on November 11, 2004 06:32 PM
BrewFan - Clearly you have never been in the military. Or watched the news that shows the joyful reaction of a five-man Army fire squad ventilating Iraqi insurgents bearing weaponry facing them. Few things make a soldier happier than seeing a building full of bad guys shooting at him and his buds being blown to smithereens from a tank round he personally aimed and fired. Or dropping a enemy with a rifle shot, mano a mano. The Marine snipers do not go out with grief counselers to get them through their sobbing guilt following their whacking someone at 600 yds carrying a RPG. Or being part of a targeting team call - something I am acquainted with - that results in a bomb or cruise missile catching 8-10 bad guys with a ticket to Paradise, according to the battlefield assessment report. Elation. Satisfaction with a job well done. As the Duvall character said alluding to the "smell of napalm in the morning" - the sweet smell of victory! Despicable slander? No, reality. War isn't Marquis de Queensbury. It's seeing 10 Syrians going across the border in infrared - utterly clueless they are in danger - then dropping a 1,000 lb bomb on them with no warning, no opportunity to surrender. Shooting fleeing insurgents in the back. Blasting a car with 25-mm cannon, even though there is a woman in the car along with the gunman - and wishing you had a beer to celebrate! Do US soldiers wantonly kill? Seek to maximize death? Of course not! There are strict rules of engagement. But the motto of breaking things and killing people to make the mission succeed is true, and our guys do their job very well...with few, if any regrets. And payback and vengence are motivators. Posted by: Cedarford on November 11, 2004 06:39 PM
Ah, excuse the double post! Got a error message that the website wasn't responding, and tried again after 5 minutes...but my post go in on the 1st attempt.. Posted by: Cedarford on November 11, 2004 06:41 PM
"Clearly you have never been in the military" Like to make a wager on that asshat? "Few things make a soldier happier than seeing a building full of bad guys shooting at them being blown to smithereens " Being happy because your life is no longer in danger is vastly different from relishing or taking glee in the death of another human being. "Or being part of a targeting team call - something I am acquainted with" Read that in Sgt Rock? I liked that comic book too! "It's seeing 10 Syrians going across the border in infrared - utterly clueless they are in danger - then dropping a 1,000 lb bomb on them with no warning, no opportunity to surrender. Shooting fleeing insurgents in the back. Blasting a car with 25-mm cannon, even though there is a woman in the car along with the gunman - and wishing you had a beer to celebrate!" This is what you think of our fighting men?CedarTroll, its obvious your view of the military and war comes from video games, not reality. Screaming Eagle hit the nail on the head. Read his post then please STFU if only because its Veterans Day. Posted by: BrewFan on November 11, 2004 06:56 PM
BrewFan - if you ever were in the military, you were a clueless rear etchelon fuck. You have no concept of what the guys at the "tip of the spear" do. Or why they are happy punching out the ticket of the enemy - not remotely like BrewFans pathetic imagined "mourning ceremony" - weep, sob...every soldier (in his mind )must go through...at having to kill "beloved fellow human beings". What a putz!
Posted by: Cedarford on November 11, 2004 11:56 PM
CedarTroll, I must have struck a nerve! That means there is hope for your shriveled little soul. I have a suggestion. Get off the computer, get a job, and save enough money so you can afford to move out of your mom's basement. Give up the comic books and video games and go back to school. Once you have a life, perspective and reason soon follow. I promise. HTH. P.S. I don't intend wasting Ace's bandwidth trying to help you any further, because, after all is said and done, you are just another troll. Like all trolls if ignored you will simply disappear. Good ridance. Posted by: BrewFan on November 12, 2004 06:44 AM
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