Well.

Maybe change "world" to "Osama" so its "Sorry Osama, we tried".

I can't think of what else. I don't own photoshop myself.

Ace,

Are you completely incapable of letting other people express _their_ heartfelt opinions without reverting to 8th grade bully tactics? I'm sure part of it is that you were actually a victim of 8th grade bullies having been the self professed D&D dork you claim to have been.

I know that you feel your opinions are so much better and smarter and tougher and righter and funnier (and crueler) than everyone elses, but why don't you give it a rest and enjoy your victory. Allow the other side to express their feelings without your juvenile shoutout for 'photoshops'.

This is the problem with you people. You cry about your right to express yourself, and claim that my expressing myself constitutes and unconstiutional assault on yours.

In other words, you want the right to speak without being spoken back to.

I feel a "chill wind" of repression blowing through my right to free speech.

For crying out loud, I'm talking about spoofing pompous, smug douchebags. It's not exactly Gestapo tactics, now is it?

But for you guys-- gee, anyone saying "boo" to you is guilty of fascism.

The Bat"wuss" is one of those typical morons whose bulldog mouth is constantly getting his Pekinese ass in trouble. How would he know anything about the 8th grade? It is apparent he can certainly never have progressed so far. Maybe he heard about 8th grade from a mainstreamed mongoloid idiot who couldn't be expelled.

Ace, I can't photoshop, but maybe the sign should say "Your Welcome, World. (We Succeeded) -- Over half of America.

Hey Batman,

STFU?

I guess people that take pictures of themselves to show how sorry they are that 59 million people could be so stoopid are not losers? Well in a electoral sense yes....oh nvm

That should be "You're Welcome."

Preview is my friend, preview is my friend, etc.

"A liberal is a power worshipper without the power."
--George Orwell 1903-1950

Sorry World -- "Gigli" was my idea

OK, so I trackbacked mine, but his gallery grows.

What seriously bothers me about these people is the groveling at the feet of the world. They remind me of all the annoying expats I ran into when I lived in Uzbekistan. It seems that about half of all Americans who move overseas do so to get the validation and approval that their countrymen felt was something to be earned.

No, Ace...

I was engaging in dialogue with you. I didn't tell you, or try to force you, to do anything, and I never once implied that your actions were unconstitutional. Those are your words. I asked you if might not give it a rest. Thing is, that guy disagrees with you... I'm guessing that you went looking for disagreement. I wonder if there anyone with a worldview that is not in agreement with yours that is not a doucebag, a cocksucker, or a retard?

I don't think you are any of those things (how would I know?), I do think you are somewhat hateful and often cruel.

To me, you are coming off like a bully roaming the playground looking for someone to push face down on the asphalt.

Sorry, the above was mine...

"you are coming off like a bully roaming the playground looking for someone to push face down on the asphalt"

Actually, I think Ace is more like an big beefy inmate looking for a little prison bitch like you, Bats. Finish the laundry, and then get your lipstick on!

Um Bat's whose site is this again? Ace isn't a bully, he didn't come to your little part of the internet to offend you, you came here by yourself so you could be offended. Nothing else to do on a Friday night but sit at home and find a way to be a victim I guess, that's why your side polls so well on weekends.

If your sensitive soul is so offended by ace then change the channel.

Golden Boy,

I'm sure Ace would want to be a "big beefy viking inmate".

Sorry, my wife's doing the laundry (it's her turn), I've got to go give my daughter a bath. I leave the lipstick to you.

Quick job, but you're welcome to post it if you want.

Thanks, JeffG. Yours and slublog's photoshops are now added to the post!

Great stuff.

Here's a blank slate, just add words, like with my contribution (to which I give Frank Villon credit)

Thanks, Nathan. No credit is due me; yours is worded far better than mine.

It would be so much more impressive if you guys had the balls to post your own pictures and messages, with your own actual faces, rather than warp this guy's message like cowards.

Moonbatman:

Why Ace wants to allow jackasses and trolls like you to post your drivel is beyond me, but it's his site and his business. Unlike you, I wouldn't presume to tell him how to run his own site or what to post on his own blog.

If you don't like what you see here, for the love of God, go somewhere else. No one invited you and no one wants to engage in any discourse with you. For someone who impugns everyone else's intelligence as you do, it is quite obvious that you don't even have the intelligence to go somewhere that you would be wanted. One can only surmise that you are too stupid or too stubborn to figure out how to use your internet browser and go elsewhere.

You've had your say, as unenlightening and intrusive as it was. Now why don't you go away?
That's a rhetorical question. Go look up rhetorical. Then go away.

typical morons whose bulldog mouth is constantly getting his Pekinese ass in trouble

heh. That's a keeper.

Batman,

I deleted out the "Fuck you" in my first reply, because I think that was uncalled for, and I apologize for that.

But the rest stands. I am so fucking sick to death of you idiots claiming that your right to free speech embraces the right to be the ONLY ones speaking at all. That's not how it works, Batman. You get to talk, I get to talk.

You've gotten so used to constructing bullshit self-serving "rules" that advantage you while restricting your opponents you're no longer even aware you're doing it.

End of story. No further response from me. Because, apparently, when I argue back to you, it seems I'm being a "coward" and "chilling" your precious right to speak.

Frank,

I don't think I've impugned anyone's intelligence, but by assuming I don't understand the word "rhetorical" you impugn mine.

A political blog with commenting turned on is an invitation to discussion, and I would assume dissent. I would guess (could be wrong) that Ace doesn't want to completely ban all us nasty trolls because then he'd have nothing but an echo chamber, and if he's as smart as he seems, he'd soon grow bored with that.

I come here because Ace is obviously very intelligent (and a good writer) - so it seems are many of the other commenters here.

To me, Ace seems like a very angry guy who believes very strongly in his positions, and I wonder what makes him tick. I'm an angry guy too and I feel very strongly about my positions, although don't express myself in quite the same way and certainly without the same flair. I guess I feel by reading this blog, and occasionally commenting I can try to better understand what makes me tick as well.

If Ace wants to make it clear that dissent is not welcome here, I'll go.

Frank, I take that you never lurk in progressive or liberal websites and leave your comments, is that right?

Batman, I'm not the one chilling dissent. That's you, buddy.

Your entire premise is that it's wrong of me to dissent with your new little pal with the notebook.

Alright, Ace - I hear you. I'll leave.

I guess the bare minimum of civility and respect are 'rule's you can't abide by. And I never called your arguments cowardly. I think defacing someone else's picture is. Nor did I say you were 'chilling' my right to free speech - in fact you provoked me to exercise it.

Thanks.

Ah, yes, Batman. Suddenly the two-thousand-year old forms of satire and parody are now against the "rules," because they're being employed against your ideological soul-mates to ridiculous effect.

I'm not the one chilling dissent.

C'mon, Ace... where did I say you were chilling dissent? I was responding to Frank, for crying out loud.

I wonder what your reaction would be if someone, let's say a nice republican guy, posted a picture of himself and a notebook with the words "Congratulations, Mr. President, we love you!" - and the some hateful lefty site started photoshopping that... I don't know, maybe that wouldn't bug you.

Batbozo:

I do not impugn your intelligence; you do so yourself. What else am I to think of your mental faculties when I clearly stated "no one wants to engage in any discourse with you," and yet you persist?

Either you are too dense or too recalcitrant to get the message.

I sincerely doubt that you are a licensed professional psychiatrist or even a psychologist. I do not believe for one second that you came here just to see what makes someone "tick," as you so crassly put it. From the accusatory tone of your first post, it is clear that you were not seeking understanding.

Exhibit A, your first statement on this post: "Are you completely incapable of letting other people express _their_ heartfelt opinions without reverting to 8th grade bully tactics?"

That is not seeking "understanding," that is clearly meant to be insulting and derogatory.

You did not say, "please help me understand what you hope to achieve by posting pictures of these people that have been photoshopped." No, you immediately attacked, thinking that you would later claim that you are being unfairly characterized and you could whine that you were misunderstood. I understood you all too clearly and I'm certain no one here has trouble seeing right through to the heart of the matter:
i.e. You don't like the photoshopping. That's your point.

Tough. It's not your site. We do like the photoshopping. We find it very humorous. It's our way of laughting at the insanity of the left because otherwise we would be forced to cry at such misguided fools.

You don't like it; we do. Now you've learned what makes us "tick," even though that was not actually your intent.

I've wasted more time in responding to you than you are worth, and I can assure you I will not make that mistake in the future. If the others here want to verbally spar with a belligerent and bellicose liberal who is so disingenous, nay DECEITFUL, as to claim that he only came here innocently to try to understand something, that is their affair. I, however, know a liar when I read one and I've had enough of you. You are living proof that there really are more horses' asses than there are horses in this world. You are as useless as tits on a boar hog. Enough.

By the way, thanks for the apology. Seriously.

I guess I'm outta here. Well I might lurk a bit but, I'll try to refrain from posting.

I have my name and several pictures of myself on my blog, Batman. And each day, I post my own "messages." So what's your beef again?

Naturally the weeping crazies at DU are in love with the idea!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2605105&mesg_id=2605105

Thanks, Frank - very Christian of you. I think it's pretty obvious who is bellicose and belligerent, and its not me.

I thought I'd made my last post, but let break my promise and my own rules and part with a hearty "Fuck You", you arrogant presumptuous asshole. As you stated earlier, this is not your blog, prick.

I'm no headshrink either - but if you think you understand who I am from a couple comments on a blog, you need to have your head examined.

Have you really read this blog? This is not a place for "please help me understand..." Now who's being deceitful?

Ok, so now I'm bellicose and belligerent.

Frank: "You are as useless as tits on a boar hog. Enough."

I always like, "useless as a poopie flavored popsicle."

Anyone else have any good ones on how useless The Batman is?

Don't worry about the crying bat. Looks like sorryeverybody.com stopped being sorry and just went away.

There's a reason liberal minded individuals get involved in threads like this - just as they often call conservative talk radio programs. The correct term is masochism. I think that, by far, the kindest most compassionate thing one can do is to give someone precisely what they want. Spank the B#$ch and let 'em hollar - remember, they're smilin' on the inside.

seems like these bats are the same pieces of crap who actually DID get the snot kicked outta them in 8th grade, because they tough enough, smart enough or fast enough to get away from them bullies...

why do they always remind me of that big-mouthed kid who shot his mouth off all the time, then wouldn't meet behind the schoolyard to settle things? always runnin' off to mama's skirt...

I just want Batman to explain to me why time-honored forms of argumentation -- all right, humorous argumentation, but still -- like parody and satire are suddenly out of bounds.

Does he take that position wrt Bill Maher, I wonder?

All forms of argument are intended to "chill" dissent, in the sense that you are attempting to demolish your opponents' position. No one goes into an argument saying, "Okay, now let's just make sure that neither of us convinces each other of anything, or makes the other look foolish by exposing an erroneous claim. Let's make sure this is an absolutely futile exchange by promising not to bring our best stuff to the table."

Now, granted, humor isn't quite a fair form of argumentation, since it seeks to achieve an advantage (making the opponent's position seem foolish) through a method which isn't quite logically rigourous (i.e., jokes). But humor only works if the target is suceptible to such an attack-- he must be on the verge of looking foolish already.

And Sensitive College Boy With the Notebook already looks foolish, with his faux-earnest moral preening and self-serving grandstanding.

That's why the jokes work. If they didn't work, they wouldn't hurt; but if they didn't hurt, there'd be no point to making them at all.

Late entry.

Intended to 'provoke' Batman's mother.

Isn't it a bit odd for someone who has adopted the name of a comic book character to suggest that someone else is still mired in adolescence?

The fact that the twit in the photo felt compelled to do what he did is all the reason anyone should need to engage in mockery. It just says so incredibly much about the loser liberal mentality. Right off the top, where do you get this 'half of America' nonsense? Bush won by a clear majority that has only widened with the late returns, bring his electoral votes up to 286. Many Presidents have squeaked by very much lesser counts. The kids who were supposed to show and give Kerry a landslide stayed home. apparently they just couldn't get excited about the DNC agenda no matter what they might say when trying to get laid.

Why don't we feel the need to post pictures of ourselves with our own messages? Because we sent the strongest message possible on Tuesday with our votes for strength and victory rather than the appeasement and defeat offered by the other side. We have no need to send out messages like pathetic waifs who can only cry out, "Help, I'm being held citizen with all the rights and priviliges that entails in a non-soc1alist country! Woe is me! What will become of me now? What? What do you mean I'm free to leave whenever I want? Where would I go? Have you seen the unemployment levels in Europe? And don't get me started about the taxes, there might be a Republican listening."

We all know the real reason Arafat is on his death bed. The only leader of the free world who ever had the stones to tell the inventor of modern terrorism that he was full of crap and that no sane world could regard him as the leader of a genuine nation while expecting peace to prevail. It is my sincere hope that the last words Arafat ever consciously understood spoken by another person were, "Four more years."

Ace, did you know that the spam filter, in trying to prevent mention of a heavily advertised stiffy pill, prevents me from using the word soc1alist in its proper spelling? How can I curse the soc1alists if I can't use the word?

So after "try[ing] to refrain from posting," Batguano posts again 15 minutes later. Impressive self-control.

This whole discourse is reminiscent of Kerry bashing Bush- then crying foul when Bush struck back.
"Bring it on...OUCH!! Hey! Stop bringing it!"

And after the election I actually saw a pundit bitching that Bush made Kerry look bad in his political ads.

Ummm. Yes...so? And I suppose Kerry's ads were designed to showcase the President's strengths??

Ditto all the chimp/Bush pics on lefty sites, or the infamous Hitler ad on MoveOn; they want it all one way, or they cry like little pussies about low blows or unseemly behavior.

Only the hardiest people laugh when the joke is on them; only the weakest people make an ass of themselves and whine about it.

I just want Batman to explain to me why time-honored forms of argumentation -- all right, humorous argumentation, but still -- like parody and satire are suddenly out of bounds.

I went and looked at this guy's site (after the first round of posts here) - other than this photo thing, there's nothing incendiary or politcal about it - half-assed attempt at a personal blog, some nice photography, and links to Space Ghost, Dickens and a Hebrew Prayer Book - no "Bush Sucks" or "Republicans are Evil" or anything of the sort...

Anyway I'm starting lose my enthusiasm for defending this guy specifically - he certainly doesn't need me to speak on his behalf - I was more concerned with making a point about the plain mean-spiritedness you sometimes seem to have.

I've got no problem with that when both sides have their dukes up; photoshop all the pictures you want of Michael Moore, Al Franken, or Randi Rhodes - they give as good as they get and they've got their gloves on. Although I will observe their punches most often land without having to resort to terms like "cock-sucker", "doucebage", "retard", or by using clever turns of phrase that bring someone's sexuality into question.

You go after Oliver Willis all the time, and I haven't said a word (even though I think the fat-jokes are pretty pathetic.) He's fashioned himself as a bomb-thrower and that makes him fair game. An aside: I wonder what would you have without ad-hominem? Think you could make jokes that actually address the actual content of the ideas that bother you? Mark Twain and Will Rogers could.

Does he take that position wrt Bill Maher, I wonder?

I can honestly say I've never seen Bill Maher - I've got the super-basic cable, you know - 2 through 13 with Discovery, CSPAN, and some spanish language channels thrown in as a bonus. Thought about upgrading to the $50 package so I could see what all the "Daily Show" ruckus was all about, but my wife and I decided to take that and another bill and half a month and put it towards our 3 year-old's college fund.

All forms of argument are intended to "chill" dissent, in the sense that you are attempting to demolish your opponents' position. No one goes into an argument saying, "Okay, now let's just make sure that neither of us convinces each other of anything, or makes the other look foolish by exposing an erroneous claim. Let's make sure this is an absolutely futile exchange by promising not to bring our best stuff to the table."

Again - I don't know where this 'chilling of dissent' stuff is coming from. Frank tried to assume proprietorship of this blog (although he claimed he wasn't) and then presumed to speak for everyone else by saying that no one wanted to talk to me - In response his 'banishment' I said I'd go if "you wanted to make it clear that dissent was not welcome".

BTW - Frank also thinks that it is indisputable that 'blogs' are a 'private' enterprise, and that bloggers are not public figures - yet he thinks it's funny to take someone's picture off their website and mock them by adding words that are not theirs - pretty contradictory if you ask me.

Now, granted, humor isn't quite a fair form of argumentation, since it seeks to achieve an advantage (making the opponent's position seem foolish) through a method which isn't quite logically rigourous (i.e., jokes). But humor only works if the target is suceptible to such an attack-- he must be on the verge of looking foolish already.

Sure I agree - but I guess I respond to humor with more wit and less venom. Back to my original point, This exercise just seemed petty me. Tell me something - will you be attacking like this until everyone thinks just like you do? When do you decide to engage in civil discourse?

Don't you think that if you could poke fun at someone's position without insinuating that they are somehow inherently defective - that they might be more likely to actually think about it? This kind of stuff just causes both sides to become even more polarized.

OneDrummer - I've been on both sides of the bullying equation, haven't most of us? I was never physically bullied - I was 6 ft tall and 185 lbs by the time I was in seventh grade. But I was more into comicbooks, books, music and movies than sports, so I got called a pussy and lots of other names. I swung the other way in self-defense and became a bit of a bully myself at times.

Lauraw - I think there is a difference between calling people pussies and retards, or defacing their images - and the lampooning of the President (or John Kerry). However I've never engaged in any of it myself, I don't photoshop peoples pictures. I really think there is something truly, personally, violating about that - not a rational positional, I guess, but just the way I feel.

And Sensitive College Boy With the Notebook already looks foolish, with his faux-earnest moral preening and self-serving grandstanding.

You think that maybe, just maybe, its possible that he actually is earnest, and that it is not his intention to be self-serving?

Do you think that your side had the only real passion involved in this election?

I guess I'm starting to feel that there is not much hope for healing the divide in this country - nothing less that complete capitulation from either side will satisfy.

I'd end with quoting the last lines of Lincoln's first inaugural address - but then I'd have to go look up the word "maudlin".

Sanctimonious bores like "Batman" are why I have comment moderation on my blog.

Well, Batman, guess I'll have to use the old standby.

If you want to critique the content of Ace's blog, go talk to Bob Dole's cock.

Thank you.

I made a couple that can be seen at the URL below, along with protesters in San Francisco & the 2004 Presidential election results. Enjoy!

Does anyone else think notebook-college dweeb is just a tad sanctimonius apologizing on behalf of Americans? Who elected him?

and batroll, the Govenor has a message for you

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/ogre_h/arnold_shutup.jpg

How to you make URLs hotlink on these boards?

Thanks for the biggest laugh of the last hectic 72 hours.

To anybody who is up in arms about the cottage industry that's sprung up around mocking me: Chill out. This is how you know you've made it, and certainly how you know you've struck a chord. The joke's on me, I suppose: I'm enjoying more exposure than your valiant efforts at wingnut blogging are ever going to receive.

Seriously, though, thanks for the photoshops. They made my day. Some of them are really, really well done. "America...Fuck Yeah" is my avatar on several messageboards and if it was our policy to acknowledge stuff like this, i'd link you on my website.

Unfortunately, it's not.

Cheerio!

Earnestly Liberal James,

I appreciate your attempt to take this with a sense of humor.

But, with all due respect, I kinda laugh at your newfound blog-fame.

I get a few hits too from time to time.

I know it's heady and all to be getting 1,000 hits a day all of sudden, but, as the say, try to act like you've been in the endzone before.

Once your silly little stunt is forgotten -- by, let's say, Wednesday-- you can go back to arguing about which captain on Star Trek would have prosecuted the Iraq War most effectively.

Here's

Here's my first one. I'll be adding more throughout the day.

Update.

I can't wait for Wednesday, Ace. Once we stop doing 200GB a day, I'll be able to get some homework done.

:)