Steven Fisher, communications director of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay and lesbian political organization, said Kerry "was speaking to millions of American families who, like the Cheneys, have gay friends and family members."

Sure he was speaking to them, and what he was saying was "If you happen not to agree with my positions on homosexuality [whatever they are this week], I have no compunction about embarrassing your family members - who, as private citizens, may choose not to tell everyone of their sexuality - on national TV! Cause, see, I really RESPECT gay people, unlike the meanie on the other podium. And part of my respect for you and them involves forcing you into positions that you would agree with if you only thought a little harder. Trust me - you'll be thankful in the end."

What a condescending twat. I feel like making a hyperbolic Hollywood threat and saying that if Kerry wins I'm moving to...Australia! (Alas, not gonna happen. But we are heading Utah-wards in January, which should beat Cook County anyway).

Give the Senator some credit for figuring out how to use to his advantage a woman that is neither wealthy nor smitten with his manly charms.

Just do right by the fags and no more problem.

Why is talking about Mary Cheney "hurtful"? All the other daughters get talked about all the time. We see the Cheney's grandchildren, so we know the other daughter is at least having sex with a man. Mary Cheney was very public in 2000 when they wanted gay votes, now they want her to hide in shame?

Hey fuckwad,

Like Ace said, it's not the fact of her being gay, it's the fact that Johnny Douchebag thinks he can score some easy "swing" votes by associating Bush with anything "gay".

"Metaphoric" cock? Is that like a dildo, or would "dildo" be a simile in this case. No, that doesn't work at all. Oh well, either way, hopefully we can agree that Kerry is, at the least, "fuckstick."

On topic: I about fell off the couch last night when Kerry brought this up. I don't care how tasteful he did it (and it wasn't really) it was wrong on a lot of levels. If Dick Cheney wants to talk about his daughter that's one thing. But that's a family matter that Kerry should have stayed out of.

Off topic: Have you seen the pic of the Bush girls that Wizbang has up? HOLY COW. Love those gams.

Kerry's campaign manager, Mary Beth Cahill, was interviewed by Chris Wallace on FNC right after the debate. Asked about why Kerry talked about Cheney's daughter, she responded that in this campaign Mary Cheney is "fair game."

What a bunch of low lifes.

My husband saw it last night- he said it was 'Lambert Field' on a national level.

"I have three purple hearts and Cheney's daughter is a lesbian. Vote for me!"

The reference was way over the line and was really jarring as a result.

3) I'm beginning to reckon this weird obsession by Kerry-Edwards on bringing up Dick Cheney's gay daughter every time can't be anything other than a covert pitch for the bigot vote. You can almost feel their frustration that it's a cute looking lesbian and not some queeny guy. Leave other people's kids out of it. Bush doesn't bring up Kerry's daughter wearing a see-through dress to the Cannes Film Festival and oilily profess how much he admires they way they still love her even though she showed her breasts to the entire world.

This is from Mark Steyn over at steynonline.com and it sums up the whole thing to me.

"Cocksucker" heh

I have said it today already as well. I even mentioned King Cocksucker this morning as well. My entry is long and ranting. Women irritate the hell out of me. Well, the concept of the "woman voter."

When did women start identifying more with a pandering male than a strong decisive man? Gimme a break. Men should be men, not women with penises (Peni?).

When Edwards pulled this crap in his debate I figured he was trying to get Cheney to blow his stack, kind of like Paul Newman did to the other team's goalie in Slap Shot. What Kerry thought he was going to accomplish by trying it a second time I can't imagine.

"What Kerry thought he was going to accomplish by trying it a second time I can't imagine."

The achilles heel of Massachusetts liberals is that they really truly do not understand the way the other side thinks.

Kerry really truly thinks that he can peel the ignorant religious rube vote away from Cheney by pointing out that his daughter is a lesbian.

I'm sure there are some -- some -- intolerant Christians out there put off by Mary Cheney's lesbianism.

But this does demonstrate, as you suggest, the left's inability to see the right as anything other than racist bigoted troglodytes.

I'm against gay marriage. But I honestly don't hate or even strongly dislike gays.

Again and again, the liberals make the mistake of thinking the only reason one could possibly have for opposing racial quotas is racial hatred.

"But this does demonstrate, as you suggest, the left's inability to see the right as anything other than racist bigoted troglodytes."

Exactly, exactly what I meant but didn't say very well.

If Mary Cheney does not want the fact that she is a lesbian brought up during the debates, THEN SHE SHOULDN'T GET ON THE STAGE AT THE END OF THE OF THE VP DEBATE WITH HER LESBIAN LOVER.

Imagine if Kerry had mentioned Cheney's other daughter and the fact that she is married. No one would have said a word. It stands to reason, therefore, that persons offended by Kerry's remark are homophobes. Imagine that, Republicans hate gays. Next thing you'll tell me is that water is wet. Any part that has Alan Keyes running for the Senate should shut the f*** up on any issues involving gays. Keyes states publicly what GOP'ers say privately: We hate fags.

One more thing: For Bush to think that homosexuality is a "choice" shows just how stupid a fu**** idiot he is. No one chooses to be gay. Mr. President, do you choose to be straight?

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Fundamentally, what's wrong with us is that we despise the Left's divisive, destructive identity politics. We deny that any group should have special rights or be a protected political class. It seems wrong to us that whole sectors of our nation's institutions are closed to qualified persons who hold the "wrong" political views. It disgusts us that the “incorrect” are personally and professionally destroyed, and that the Left mobilizes its vast resources to ensure that darkness covers the ruining of these lives. We believe that the freedom of every American - gay or straight - is ultimately threatened when a coalition of demonstrably totalitarian interest groups comes together for the sole purpose of wielding a terrifying power over their countrymen.

mklutra,

I'm pretty sure you were one * short on your curse. The point is somebody's family is not an issue for public debate. It's personal. It's private. I, like many of the bloggers who are mistakenly labeled conservative, am a libertarian and don't think the state should be involved in people's private lives.

However, why don't you ask yourself why Kerry and Edwards felt it was appropriate to mention the VP's family? What political purpose could it possibly serve? The point is that Kerry (and Edwards) only felt it necessary to mention one of the daughters so your hypothetical does not withstand scrutiny.

Otherwise, ad hominem attacks do not convince a discerning audience that the other side is hateful. That form of rhetoric will not fly on sites like this. Please go play at DU.

Regards.