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September 15, 2004

And Just Who Is This Bill Burkett of Baird, Texas?

In case you missed it, click here for the full skinny. Including the stuff the Washington Post won't tell you.

Since he's been one of the most persistent "AWOL" accusers, you should probably also know he previously stated that pay records showing dates of service establish, "without doubt," that a man served for the period in question.

Perhaps he got frustrated when Bush produced exactly such payroll records, requiring him to resort to... more desperate measures, let us say.

posted by Ace at 10:50 PM

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24635-2004Sep15.html

Posted by: Scott on September 15, 2004 11:16 PM

Just wanted to really hang it in 'em.

Again:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24635-2004Sep15.html

Posted by: Scott on September 15, 2004 11:18 PM

I have that linked in the previous post.

Posted by: ace on September 15, 2004 11:29 PM

BURKETT - scapegoat - then CBS off the hook? Just like Watergate, quick, let's institutionalize him before he really spills the beans. Remember lawyer Phillip Mackin Bailley who knew too much about the Columbia Plaza call girl ring's connection to the DNC and Watergate bugging? Spencer Oliver's phone line was being used for the appointments, and McCord/Alfred Baldwin listening to THOSE calls. Dean's wife was friends with the madam. Judge Richey institutionalized Bailley BEFORE trial. See Jim Hougan's book "Secret Agenda."

I still say EU-RICO! It's a much larger conspiracy than just a "lone nut" from Texas.

Posted by: BR on September 15, 2004 11:33 PM

It doesn't matter if it originated with Burkett. CBS isn't off the for knowlingly going ahead and using these blatant forgeries in service of a smear campaign to sway an election. Just because a lunatic gives you a gun it doesn't mean you're off the hook for shooting someone with it.

After all of their 'experts' have revealed that they're abilites are limited or they didn't give CBS the answer it wanted, it doesn't matter where the malice and fabrication started. CBS knowingly picked up that poisoned ball and ran with it.

Posted by: Eric Pobirs on September 15, 2004 11:41 PM

The fact that she chose to inject herself in this and start telling people what to do makes me dislike Teresa all the more.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040915/ap_on_el_pr/heinz_kerry_1&printer=1

Posted by: Eric Pobirs on September 15, 2004 11:43 PM

Just wanted to say: touché Ace. I was doubtin' in your post this morning, but it looks like you were spot on!

Posted by: MrO on September 15, 2004 11:58 PM

Eric,

Judging by that URL, I think I just read the same thing over it polipundit.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 12:01 AM

OBSERVATIONS:

1. If I was Bill Burkett, I would have smashed my hard drive to pieces by now, burned those pieces, then smashed them again.

2. If ANY, I MEAN ANY reporter has one question to ask Rather, Producer Mary Mapes - it should be "Did CBS pay the source any money?" If so, a clear crime is established. I am disgusted that the money angle was never made a question the media asked CBS about so far.

3. If I was on Viacoms Board or the owner of a CBS affiliate station, I would be on the horn right now demanding an emergency session of Viacom, CBS entertainment executive management and legal folks - with a conference call to the station owners to follow.

4. If I was a prominent Bushie policy adviser & lawyer in the inner circle, I would be on my way to get a court order to give to Burkett's lawyer directing preservation of evidence, particularly hard drive and paper in Burkett's house - pending a formal search warrant.

5. If I was a politically ambitious Texas circuit DA, or the State Attorney General, of the "Republican persuasion" - I would be working through the night to get a search warrant request together (based on a criminal fraud or election tampering charge), talk to the first amenable judge I could rustle up, and get that search warrant on Burkett enabling me to obtain and safeguard evidence such as:

A. Burkett's local and long distance phone calls for the last 6 months.
B. Removal of Burkett's hard drive as evidence, or copying the contents of it.
C. Search of Burketts house for papers and any large quantities of money he can't account for.
D. His bank records, travel, and credit card records.
E. Interview Mr. Burkett with his lawyer on his involvement and request he list those CBS, DNC, Moveon, etc officials he has met with over the last year, as well as individuals of interest to the investigation like Barnes, and the "Iowa farmer".
F. Per the Texas investigation, interview those people of interest that "pop out" based on Burketts interview, phone records, email records, hard drive, bank receipts.

6. If I was Dan Rather, I'd be shitting bricks tomorrow. I suspect some other Democrats fretting being fingered by the inquiry of the person who is tied to the forgery are also going to be shitting bricks, as well. As well as any party involved in abetting the forgery - like the talented person - likely not Burkett, who did the phony "Killian" signatures.

Posted by: Cedarford on September 16, 2004 12:32 AM

One other thing - If some higher up within the Kerry campaign, CBS the DNC, or Moveon used Burkett as a willing tool for a scheme they, not Burkett initiated, I'd offer Burkett a real sweet deal if he turns states evidence.

Posted by: Cedarford on September 16, 2004 12:37 AM

Oh my God! I just read the statement Burkett made about what he saw being "destroyed" in the Camp Mabry museum; "pay records and performance evaluations." I'm thinking that he saw the records being collected for Bush's aids to look at. But, this emotionally unstable nut-bar with the mother of all axes to grind immediately assumes a conspiracy and thinks that they were being thrown out.

When the opportunity to challenge Bush's record arrises, he thinks he can get payback on Bush and garner his own 15 minutes by saying that the pay records are the key. Imagine his dissapointment when the pay records were right where they were supposed to be. But conspiracy theory says there had to be something bad there that the VRWC destroyed, right? So this nobel laureate decides it is his liberal duty to reproduce what MUST have been there, based on hints he got from the biblical scholars cum 60 Minutes producers who have been scouring Texas for the smoking gun in the Bush AWOL case. Only problem is, this glorified secretary uses Army acronyms and formatting.

Oh, yeah. And he no longer has his Smith Corona manual typewriter.

Know how to prove it? No one signs their signature exactly the same every time. Who ever created those docs in Word had to paste a signature from somewhere on them. Let's have one of those vaunted handwriting experts compare the signature on the Word docs to public record docs with Killian's signature and get some potential donors. And then let's see if Mr. Burkett's IP has been anywhere near those particular public domain documents.

Posted by: Dacotti on September 16, 2004 01:37 AM

Oh my, oh my! Gosh, it's good to be in the company of such clear thinkers. Cedarford, I sure hope someone reads your post who can do exactly that. And maybe get a protective order for Burkett himself, before his lawyer/handler gets him committed and out of reach.

And Dacotti, that last sentence, wow!

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 04:22 AM

I have a question about Camp Mabry. Does it contain both the Air and the Army Guard? Is this the Houston base where Bush and Killian were in 72?

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 05:05 AM

Re Camp Mabry - the reason I ask, is if Burkett was Army, not Air, how come he was even in the same offices at all?

Posted by: BR on September 16, 2004 09:57 AM

Killian's secretary states regarding documents: "words...used belong to the army".

Burkett was Army Guard...probably just another coincidnce!

Posted by: tailendcharley on September 16, 2004 01:58 PM

poker me up

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