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September 15, 2004
One Degree of SeparationFor those of you following the shadowy careers of Marty Heldt and Bill Burkett, make sure you check out the article linked in Addendum 3 to this Daly Thoughts post. Scan down to a later sub-section of the article called "Records Draw Interest." Both Heldt and Burkett are interviewed in the article. As Heldt is described as an "amateur internet researcher" specializing in the AWOL claims, it seems probable that he's had opportunity to correspond with Burkett in the past. Burkett, after all, is the midwife of the whole non-scandal. posted by Ace at 05:46 PM
CommentsA Google search of Heldt and Burkett yields quite a few documents. Posted by: Phil on September 15, 2004 05:55 PM
This is from the Hardball transcript last night. I think Mr. Rogers may be a friend of Burkett's as well. (And while we're at it, Robert Strong needs another look...since every other source CBS used as been linked to Texans for Truth) Who is Robert Rogers, Lieutenant Rogers, and what is his role with regard to Bush‘s role in the Air National Guard? KELLEY: He is retired First Lieutenant Robert Rogers, an 11-year veteran of the National Guard. And... MATTHEWS: What was his relationship to President Bush when he was in the Air Guard? KELLEY: I don‘t think there‘s any relationship. MATTHEWS: Well, why—what does he know—what does he know about - · what does he know about the possibility or impossibility or plausibility of our current president having involved himself with substance abuse, as he says in this book of yours? KELLEY: He says that this is a logical assumption to make. However... MATTHEWS: Who is he to tell us that? I‘m just curious of why you chose this man... KELLEY: He is a member... MATTHEWS: ... to talk about President Bush‘s use of illegal substances or whatever. KELLEY: Well, it isn‘t just that that he was telling me, Chris. The news on the National Guard is not whether or not George Bush took illegal substances, but it is the fact, he had a solid gold record up until April of 1972. And then he is missing. And he was penalized by the Air Force, by the National Guard, and six additional months were added to his Guard duty. I went to Rogers because he has written about the National Guard and he seems to be a historian of the National Guard. And I needed it explained to me. Then I went to a classmate of Bush‘s, Mark Soler (ph), to just explain to me what 1968 was like at Yale. Did you get into the National Guard easily? Were there reserved slots open? How did one do it? And then I interviewed... MATTHEWS: Excuse me, I‘m sorry. I just want to talk to you about Lieutenant Rogers. KELLEY: OK.MATTHEWS: Did he ever meet President Bush? KELLEY: Didn‘t ask him. MATTHEWS: Well, do you think he ever met president—did he know anything about President Bush, the man? President Bush as he was when he was with the Guard? KELLEY: I don‘t know that. MATTHEWS: How old is he? KELLEY: He is in his 60s. MATTHEWS: Was he a contemporary of President Bush? Was he in that Guard unit down in Texas, or not? Did he ever meet President Bush? KELLEY: No. MATTHEWS: And yet he‘s here speculating on President Bush‘s use of drugs. KELLEY: Chris, he is the one who told me about the National Guard and the Air Force instituting random drug testing at that time. He told me further, that every single question that I asked him and that you‘re asking of the president could be answered with the release of the Flight Inquiry Board record. And that‘s the one record that the White House has not released. Posted by: Jen on September 15, 2004 07:32 PM
And while we're at it, Glenn Smith on Scarborough from Sept. 10th. Glenn Smith is connected to Sorros through his former employment at the infamous Rockridge Institute (a so called "think-tank" that now has half of "The Nation's" columnists on it's "advisory board". Anyone notice how Nation columnists have been leaders in pushing this stuff?): SCARBOROUGH: Glenn, I‘m going to show you something that our staff put together. It‘s some of the other groups and people that you‘ve worked with. This isn‘t quite as extensive as that “New York Times” vast-right wing conspiracy chart they put in the paper a couple of weeks ago, but we‘ve done our best. This is what we found out. You‘ve been a consultant for MoveOn.org. Incidentally, your promotions for Texans For Truth calls the group a Texas group of MoveOn.org. You‘ve worked with Paul Begala, who is now a Kerry adviser, Ann Richards, who obviously George W. Bush defeated to become governor of Texas. You also worked on a movie called “Bush‘s Brain,” which is based on book of the same name, which claims that Karl Rove is actually George Bush‘s brain. (With James Moore by the way!) This doesn‘t look like this was a grassroots movement on your part, where you were just driving across the country promoting your book, saying gee, whiz, I need to put this movie together. Pat (LAUGHTER) SCARBOROUGH: By the way, Pat and I are both laughing at that George Bush‘s brain thing. I always thought that was a funny title, whether you agree with it or not. SMITH: It‘s kind of an oxymoron. SCARBOROUGH: This sounds like, though, that this is very orchestrated, that people in the Kerry camp are behind this and trying to help you out. Is that true or not? SMITH: Well, I‘ve got to tell you two things. You‘re going to make my mother real unhappy because you spelled my name wrong. There‘s two N‘s in Glenn. SCARBOROUGH: Oh, no. Sorry, mom. SMITH: Another thing, you left out of your list the fact I was also partners with Mark McKinnon and Matthew Dowd for years and years. But besides that, it‘s a pretty accurate list. Listen, I‘m proud to be a partisan. You know, Thomas Paine was a partisan. There‘s nothing the matter with holding political beliefs and speaking up for them. And that‘s what I‘m doing. SCARBOROUGH: Absolutely nothing at all. We just want to know tonight, are you denying that there‘s any connection between you and John Kerry‘s campaign in any way? SMITH: No, there‘s no connection whatsoever. I didn‘t even whisper to anybody that I was about to do this. I had a feeling that they would want to tuck me inside some other campaign strategy or other. And I wanted this to be an independent movement that expressed the voices of real Texans, ordinary Texans. They‘ve contributed their dollars, hard-earned dollars. And I‘m putting it on the air in that advertisement. SCARBOROUGH: Now, where did you get your money? You say from Texans. Are these Texans that are also funding John Kerry‘s campaign? SMITH: Well, you know, we sent an e-mail. I have an organization called DriveDemocracy.org. It has 20,000 members. We sent them an e-mail. MoveOn.org also sent an e-mail to their Texas-based membership. And we got a lot of contributions back. I think they averaged $35 or $40 from everyday, hardworking Texans. (CROSSTALK) Posted by: Jen on September 15, 2004 07:42 PM
And last, but not least, Paul Lukasaik, the Philly caterer turned investigative journo (google him up!). He is also the guy--as far as I can tell-- who authored the awol bush web site that features OETR. I think it's also important to note that just about every article concerning Bush/AWOL since Feb 2004 (at least) has included either Lukasaik, Herdt or Burkett as a source. I wonder how much Kitty relied on them? Posted by: jen on September 15, 2004 07:55 PM
And another little bit of Kitty Litter from the Sept. 14th Hardball. Wonder how Peck Young might fit into all of this? Is he related to Ben Barnes and Texans for Truth?: MATTHEWS: Let‘s take a look at another quote in the book. You wrote in your book—it‘s a big book—“Even as a married man, George had a whispered past, which almost surfaced during the campaign. A woman appeared in Austin, claiming to have been a call girl from Midland with an intimate knowledge of him during his days in the oil patch. Supposedly, she was ‘the other woman‘ in his life, or one of them, said Peck Young, an Austin political consultant. ‘She set herself up in a hotel here and was prepared to sell her story to the highest bidder. Word got around town, and she claimed she got a visit from some men who made her realize it was better to turn tricks in Midland than to stop breathing. She said she had been approached by what she described as intelligence types. She left town abruptly.” Who is Peck Young? KELLEY: Peck Young is a political activist and consultant in Austin. MATTHEWS: What side is he on? KELLEY: Politically, what side is he on? MATTHEWS: Is he a Democrat or Republican? KELLEY: I think he‘s a Democrat. Posted by: jen on September 15, 2004 08:09 PM
WHODUNIT, Phase One Posted by: Thales on September 16, 2004 03:07 PM
It doesn't make sense that these guys would do it. They're sticklers for detail. They know the official Bush documents inside out. Why would they create such obvious forgeries? Unless -maybe - to try to bluff someone into 'talking'. What if the guy they tried to bluff said, "ok, let me hang onto these for a few days, I'll ask around some old buddies". But next day he faxes them to the news agencies from Abeline Kinkos, knowing it will at least discredit Birkett. He never dreams that CBS will run with it. Posted by: Fontboy on September 16, 2004 06:38 PM
Welll, somebody created the forgeries, and somebody else bought into them, and somebody else broadcasted them, and it is safe to say that none of their brains were running at 100% at the time. I'm not saying they are not sticklers for detail. I'm not saying they're idiots. But look at it. Dan Rather has been in journalism for a long time. He has seen more typewritten memos, and more word processed memos, than I have hairs on my head. If he did not have some hidden agenda, and if he didn't have his head up his butt he would recognize the memos as fraud instantly. Which leaves me to conclude that he, somehow, some way, either had his head up his butt, and still does, OR he has some HIDDEN AGENDA. But how, why? The fact that he continues to engage in a pathetic stonewall, and probably knows it, should tell you something. My guess is that he is willfully cooperating in a contrived smear campaign against Bush, he knows it, and it's okay with him because he hates Bush, and he's about ready to retire anyway. The other players hate Bush at least as much but are less savvy and have much more in the way of career prospects riding on this thing. Being younger, they are more inclined to think that a) they are smarter than anyone else and b) they are in some way immortal or something; like an arrogant punk kid who clumsily attempts a heist and then gets busted because he thinks the cops are sooo stuuupid. They think, therefore, that they can run whatever scam they feel like and none of those crooked Republican dumbasses will ever be able to figure it out. Posted by: Thales on September 17, 2004 12:26 AM
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-- reportedly a genuine comment offered by a "senior Labour source" Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held. Basil the Great
"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)
No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.
Only a cult does this.
Now they've lost 84%.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.
Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...
The British Patriot Wow, up to 1700-2100 seats. It's not incredible that this is happening. It's incredible that the Davos crowd is so absolutely determined to privilege Muslim "migrants" over the actual native population who elects them, no matter how loudly the natives scream that they want to be prioritized, that they will gladly self-extinguish as a party rather than simply representing the interests of their own voters. Astonishing. Remember, when they call other people "cultists" -- they are the ones so imprisoned in their social reinforcement and discipline bubbles that they will choose political death rather than dare upset the Karen Enforcement Officers of their cult. Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending. (((Dan Hodges))) Nick Lowles
STARMERGEDDON: In early returns, Reform gains 135 seats, Labour loses 90, the Fake Conservatives lose 36 (and I didn't even know they could fall any further), the Lib Dems lose 4, and the Greens gain 6. Note that the only other party gaining seats is the Greens and they're only gaining a handful of seats.
Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98. Labour projected to lose Wales -- where they've ruled for 27 years. Fulton County Georgia just discovered 400 boxes of ballots for Labour Update: REF +156, LAB -107, CON -45 Brutal: In four out of five council seats where Labour is defending, they've lost. 80%. I'm sure it's not this simple, but Reform is straight taking Labour's and the "Conservatives'" seats. They've lost almost exactly what Reform gained. If understand this right (and warning, I probably don't), all of London's council seats are up for election, and Labour might lose hugely there, as their old voters abandon them for Reform, Muslim Indenpendents, and the Greens. REF +190, LAB -134, CON -56.
Updates on the Labour collapse in council elections -- which wags are calling #Starmergeddon -- from Beege Welborne. There are about 5000 seats up for grabs, Labour is expected to lose 1,800, Reform will probably gain 1,580, up from... zero. So this would be more than that.
People claim that while Labour has adopted the Sharia Agenda to appeal to the million Muslims it allowed to migrate to the country, those voters are ditching Labour to vote for the Muslim Independent Party or the Greens. Delicious. This shadenfreude is going straight to my thighs. Oh, and if Starmer loses about as badly as expected, Labour will toss him out of a window Braveheart style and replace him. He will announce he is resigning to spend more time with his Gay Ukrainian Male Prostitutes.
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