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June 13, 2004

Boycott the Red Cross

Will people be hurt by this? Yes, but that's not our fault. We didn't decide to make the Red Cross an expressly Marxist, anti-American organization. Those who have hijacked the organization have put their leftist, anti-American politics above their stated mission of comforting those in need.

If they've decided they serve the despots and terrorists of the world, let them seek contributions from their masters.

No more from us.

If anyone knows of more-deserving organizations with approximately the same stated mission as the Red Cross, please inform me.

The pro-terrorist left doesn't seem to understand that just because someone isn't being "charged with a crime" doesn't mean they should be set free. 99% of all Nazi prisoners during WWII were never charged with a crime, having committed no crimes. Fighting in a war, despite the claims of the left, is not in fact a crime.

That doesn't mean we just took the Nazis prisoners, fingerprinted them, and then released them back to fight us against us. No, we held them until the war was over.

The war with Saddam's government doesn't end with our formal occupation of the country. We might no longer be at war with Iraq, but we are still at war with the terrorists and Baathists. I haven't heard of them signing an armistice; can the Red Cross present such a document for my inspection?

No?

Didn't think so.

Perhaps Andrew "80% of those held in Abu Ghraib haven't been charged with a crime" Sullivan can provide me with the armistice or treaty signed by the terrorists and Baathists. Perhaps Andrew "80% of those held in Abu Ghraib haven't been charged with a crime" Sullivan can provide examples to me of enemy combatants taken prisoner during a war being released, absent a prisoner exchange, before the cessation of hostilities.

It's time to call these organizations what they are, and treat them for what they are.

And it's time to call out the flighty, unserious cretins within our ranks, like Sullivan, who believe that enemy combatants taken prisoner during warfare can only be held after arraignment.

Update: Several comments point out that the International Red Cross is not the same organization as the American Red Cross, and that the latter shouldn't be boycotted. Fair enough.

As for alternatives, there's the Magen David Adom in Israel, and of course the Salvation Army.

If you donate, be sure to cc the International Red Cross, just to let them know you're not donating to them.

posted by Ace at 10:16 PM

Comments

I've been disgusted with the red cross/red crescent for a long time. Not many people remember the slight that the RC gave to our WW2 vets when they returned back from the European theater after VE day. The RC charged them for cups of coffee in New York as they were getting off the ships that had carried them home. Would it have been too much to ask that the first cup be given freely?

Posted by: Senator PhilABuster on June 13, 2004 10:46 PM

Attaboy Ace.

I'll spread the word about this one...

Posted by: The Right Wing Conspirator on June 13, 2004 10:58 PM

That uses up the last drop of Red Cross credibility.

OTOH, the person making the comments to The Guardian did not appear to be expressing official Red Cross views.

Posted by: rdbrewer on June 13, 2004 11:21 PM

I read Sullivan these days for the same reason I read Wonkette: material. He's bad and getting worse, and his posts about the deep psychological scars he bears from the Abu Ghraib scandal are the absolute fucking nadir. He sounds like Robert Hays in Airplane talking about how he'll never be over Macho Grande.

Posted by: Allah on June 13, 2004 11:23 PM

It's been about two minutes since I posted that last comment and I'd like to register my disappointment that no one has yet made the obvious Sullivan/"Win for the Zipper" pun. Tsk.

Posted by: Allah on June 13, 2004 11:28 PM

OT, this is pretty funny: Bardot.

Posted by: Milty on June 13, 2004 11:40 PM

Very funny.

Of course you're right; Sullivan will never be over Macho Grande. He's barely over the breakup of Wham.

Posted by: ace on June 13, 2004 11:55 PM

Just for a goof, I checked the "Airplane" movie quote page at IMDB to see what other Sully/Ted Striker comparisons might be drawn. Picture him huddled over the laptop with this internal dialogue:

"I've got to concentrate (echoing) . . . concentrate . . . concentrate. Hello? . . . hello? . . . hello? Pinch-hitting for Pedro Borbon: nine-inch uncut cock . . . cock . . . cock. . . ."

Posted by: Allah on June 14, 2004 12:12 AM

Attaboy, Ace!

The Red Cross is a leftist, anti-semetic organization and has been one for years. If you want to donate money, the guide dog center for the blind can always use donations, as can the local salvation army.

If we are done interrogating him, let's hand Saddam over to the families of his victims, starting with the Kurds.

Posted by: Alan M. Ray on June 14, 2004 12:29 AM

In Sullivan's defense, Wham! was a quality musical act.

Posted by: Jeff G on June 14, 2004 02:45 AM

Guys,
Let's not mix up the INTERNATIONAL Red Cross/Red Crescent with the AMERICAN Red Cross. Granted, the American Red Cross like other super large charities has had it's problems with finances (although not as bad as the United Way), it doesn't compare to the classic politically correct NGO of it's International version.

Posted by: JFH on June 14, 2004 08:40 AM

I'm with JFH. There's a big difference between the American Red Cross handing out blankets after a tornado and the International Red Cross's horrid track record monitoring the signatories of the Geneva Conventions.

Posted by: The Black Republican on June 14, 2004 09:33 AM

Alas, poor Sully.

He's all atwitter because Rumsfeld said it was okay to have dogs bark at bad guys.

Please.

Posted by: blaster on June 14, 2004 09:34 AM

And why is the Red Crescent an approved symbol of the IRC and the Magen David Adom is not?

You do the math.

Posted by: MeTooThen on June 14, 2004 10:33 AM

Speculating here, but I think Sully's pissed due to the gay sex games we forced the AG boys to take part in. Had it been simply a matter of barking dogs and the occassional box-standing contest, I doubt he'd be so upset. But the use of gay sex to "torture" someone rests on the notion that said gay sex is bad - for it if weren't, why would it be so useful as an instrument of torture?
Anything that offends Sully in his status as uber-gay may is ipso facto the worst thing ever. Which is, I suppose, understandable, but it doesn't mean he's right.

Posted by: Josh Martin on June 14, 2004 10:57 AM

The only problem here is that the 80% of Abu Ghraib detainess who weren't charged with a crime were not Baathist or terrorist POWs. They were common, petty criminals or *completely innocent people* who were mistakenly arrested.

Posted by: Uriel on June 14, 2004 11:09 AM

Ace,

I'll echo JFH and Black Republican.

The American Red Cross is largely in the control of the Republican establishment (Libby Dole in the past, and their entire top management now are former military and fairly conservative.) The local chapters are largely staffed by mushy liberals, but that's because it's non-profit work. My wife worked at the local Red Cross for seven years. She just recently quit, but I can say with relative certainty that the American Red Cross is NOT the same (especially at senior mgmt levels) as the ICRC.

Posted by: hobgoblin on June 14, 2004 11:31 AM

Well good. The Red Cross calls me nearly weekly for donations and I'm quite bored with their requests to travel 3 hours to give blood. Now when I say "no' I can give them a reason.

Posted by: Sydney T on June 14, 2004 12:53 PM

Maybe they aren't the same organizations, but they share names, and if the taint from the International one begins to affect the fundraising and activities of the American one, that will provide the incentive for the American one to disassociate or work to get the International one to clean up its act.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on June 14, 2004 01:01 PM

The Salvation Army would be a great replacement in the west for RC. They are a Christian organization, but they help anyone and don't try to cram religion down your throat while doing it.

Posted by: Vickie on June 14, 2004 01:16 PM

Does the ARC send percentage of it's earnings to the IRC? A tithe if you will.

Posted by: Kevin on June 14, 2004 02:19 PM

Torture itself is not so bad. Every country utilizes torture, especially those who signed the anti-torture treaty.

It's the silly type of torture practiced at Abu Ghraib with the risque photographs and the lack of professionalism, as if it were a wild party of leftists in a Village loft on a Friday night.

Posted by: Tarter on June 14, 2004 02:38 PM

I agree, and I've said so.

Posted by: ace on June 14, 2004 02:38 PM

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