"Sometimes you get lucky and get to fight ethnic genocide in Kosovo, but other times it's Vietnam. "

Yeah, tell that to the Hmong, Montagnards and the boat people.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Excellent point, Dave.

I'm a little worried about this, though. It's one thing to be 'honest', its another to give justification to the moonbats to start spitting on the troops again. I hope I'm wrong, but this is what I see as the result of this asshat's candor.

I think it's about time liberals told the truth about "supporting the troops". I respect this guy's honesty, even though I may disagree with everything he believes in. As a former soldier, I can't stand to see some ass-clown like murtha, kerry, or reid constantly saying they support the troops, but the war was a mistake and Bush is a liar. Only in a kerry-esque philosophy can you support soldiers killing people for the wrong reasons that were based on "lies". If you don't support the war, you can't support those carrying it out. At least this guy has the nuts to say it.

"Sometimes you get lucky and get to fight ethnic genocide in Kosovo..."

I wonder if this guy has ever heard of Kurds.

His attitude is not new, it is reprised from the '60's. We had a whole passel of people like that. I don't see like minded people coming out of the closet, cuz of the political liability today. Sort of a shame really becuase if more of the Left let their true colors show through the Dems would be in even worse shape than they are now.

That's another diference between then and now, Brewfan - the moonbats might indeed start spitting on the troops again, and that would be unfortunate. But they wouldn't get away with it this time.

And I second the Amen to DFGR's point re: the actual victims of the left's takedown of our Vietnam involvement. I fail to understand how anyone that protested the Vietnam War can sleep at night, knowing the millions that died because of their fecklessness.

Rocketeer,

What you fail to realize is that leftists don't care how many eggs are broken to make a socialist paradise omelet. That should be apparent by their silence regarding the Soviet Union's crimes under Lennin and Stalin, Mao's crimes, Vietnam all the way up through today with Castro's crimes. They don't care if people get killed in the pursuit of socialism/communism. Leftists only care when America's interests are somehow advanced. Then, it is evil and must be stopped.

By this asshat's own reasoning, he is also a "wussy". [Wait, "wussy"? He really said "wussy", didn't he. Make that asshat, asscoat, and asstails. Who the hell says "wussy"?]

Anyway, by this asstux's own reasoning, let's see:

being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken

being against the war, paying taxes to support the troops, and taking advantage of the benefits of having a military is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken

A moron, too, obviously, since concepts like why we have a military presence in Germany elude him. And you gotta love the way he throws in Jack Abramoff and traffic jokes to "lighten the tone" of his seditious little essay.

Gee, glad to see he doesn't begrudge me my military disability pension, though. What a guy.

But they wouldn't get away with it this time.

I hope you're right, Rocketeer, but you have to admit that there are parts of this country where this behavior would not be frowned upon.

So,according to this guy, fighting to stop ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, (where the victims are white, of course), is OK, but doing so in Vietnam (and I guess Iraq) where the victims are Asian or Arabic, is morally wrong?

Do these people even listen to themselves?

Oh, it's Joel Stein? Heh. I thought you were talking about a real writer. Dude got fired from Entertainment Weekly.

You're sadly right, Brewfan, and I live in one of them (anyone here hiring? I'm willing to relocate). But really, my point is that there is more transparency in 2006 than in 1975, and it's less likely that spitters here could avoid the scrutinty and outrage of the rest of the country.

I usually hate bumper stickers, but I recently got so sick of seeing cars with a "Support the Troops" ribbon on the rear hatch and a "Bush Lied" or "Out of Irag Now!" on the bumper that I made my own bumper sticker. It has the yellow ribbon on one side and reads: "Support Their Mission".

God, the moonbats must hate it!

This kind of statement can only be made in a free society which has troops, of course.

The military is part of the State.

In a fascist far-right state, he would not be allowed to speak against the State or its organ, the military.

In a communist far-left state, he would not be allowed to speak against the State or its organ, the military.

In a state with no military, he would have nothing to speak against.

So sure, the fact that he is able to print this is ample proof that we are doing something right here. That's obvious.

What's less obvious is how such MORONS end up getting jobs writing ANYTHING. Mr. Asstux seems woefully ignorant of the military, its traditions, how it actually works, people's reasons for volunteering, why a volunteer army exists, of geopolitics, of ethics and moral theory, of history, of the US Constitution . I mean, this guy is seriously deficient.

Hey, remember that one week where the liberals were worried about the troops' morale?

Okay, maybe it was only five days, but it was almost a week.

Brought a tear to my eye, it did. Oh the patriotism.

If I put a bumper sticker like that on my car, I'd find it keyed at the end of a day in the parking garage.

Maine liberals are mean.

The guy explicitly disallowed spitting, although I'm sure there are plenty of moonbats out there who would try for the moral superiority cred of spitting--witness the asshats outside Walter Reed, four or five posts down.

Mostly, I agree with elcid that it's refreshing to hear someone on the left actually say what they think. The Kerryesque, double-talking, "this doesn't mean what you think it does" waffle is the left's default position on practically any topic you can name. So I applaud Stein for his candor, however odious his views might be.

Last week I saw "No Oil for Pacifists"

The attitude I still can't fathom is, their bitching about us killing people and how worried they are about those people that we are "killing". Yet, the simple fact that it was in part the "killing" of those people that caused our troops to go there and free them. It's perfectly fine if an evil wacked out dictator kills them instead?

Though it's already been touched on, fuck him and his candor. It's hypocrites like him who will whine and cry about human rights violations and then complain when we do something about it.

Oh, wait. . . the left never complained about mass murder in the USSR, Eastern Block, China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos, etc.