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January 23, 2006

And The Republican Nominee In 2008 Will Be. . .

Right Wing News polled 230 right-of-center bloggers asking them who they prefer for the Republican presidential nomination.

Of course, they didn't ask me, because I prefer to be politically unpredictable, and besides, I'm still debating between this guy and this, uhhh, guy.

Anyway, if you want to see the list for yourself, go read it via Wuzzadem, which is where I found the link (hey, send traffic where it's deserved, ya know).

My thoughts? It's still a little early. My gut says 2008 will be a surprise nominee year for both parties. Much like Bill Clinton came out of nowhere in 1992, methinks that the eventual nominee for at least one party will be someone nobody really expects right now, making all the McCain/Rudy/Hillary talk so much bunkum.

Besides, when it comes to the GOP, we still don't know who President Bush wants as his anointed successor. Given Cheney's unwillingness to run, we're in a bit of a strange place. There's no guarantee, of course, that President Bush's preference will matter in the primaries, but it's definitely an important data point that's still missing at this stage in the game.

My favorite dark horses? George Allen for the GOP and Mark Warner for the Dems. Yeah, I may be biased because they're both Virginia boys, but they're both quiet achievers from a very diverse state. Allen might be *too* quiet-- he hasn't been helped by recent Republican struggles here in the Old Dominion. Warner, while as tax happy as any Democrat, isn't an irrational lunatic (which, let's be honest, probably keeps him from getting the Democratic nomination).

Oh, and one other prediction: there is no circumstance, on any planet, in any galaxy, that John McCain is the Republican nominee. If I'm wrong about this, I'll shut up about politics for the next four years, but I'll swear on the mercy of the Great Cthulhu that there's just no way that is happening.


posted by Dave From Garfield Ridge at 04:32 PM
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Too early. Way too early.

Posted by: Monty on January 23, 2006 04:34 PM

Yup. Talk to me after the midterms.

Which, I fear, are going to be pretty f'ing harsh for the GOP. They are NOT having a good time right now.

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 23, 2006 04:37 PM

Too early but keep your eye on Romney. Very attractive candidate.

Posted by: JackStraw on January 23, 2006 04:41 PM

Hillary versus George Allen. Mortal lock. Hillary wins the general election handily.

Posted by: Allah on January 23, 2006 04:42 PM

Always with the negative waves, Allah; always with the negative waves.

Shit pal, while you're at it, why don't you just go ahead and tell me there's no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, or man-friendly lesbians?

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 23, 2006 04:45 PM

It's too soon to be sure about anything, but Allah's prediction sounds pretty unlikely. Hillary's got too much baggage to go the distance, particularly since she doesn't have her hub's Homer Simpson-like ability to take a punch. George Allen looks too much like a third term of George W., and even in the primaries that could only defeat a field consisting of a) John McCain, and b) absolutely nobody else.

The media (possibly including blogs, in this case) seem to have a vested interest in mis-reporting this story. Right now it's anyone's guess who the nominees will be, so the media try to come off as seers by insisting they can pick out Mr. or Ms. Candidate. by December 2007 everyone will know who the likely candidates are, and the media will try to hold people's interest by pretending that the foregone conclusion is actually a thrilling horse-race.

Posted by: utron on January 23, 2006 04:53 PM

WHAT??
There is NO Easter Bunny??? First, talk of Hillary as president, then finding out there is no EB. Talk about a shitty day. I'm gonna have to take Dave's advice and find out if drinking those black currants will help me get Alzheimer's

Posted by: Battalion16 on January 23, 2006 04:54 PM

Beloved Dave @GR,

I am your only servant devoted enough to care about who YOU choose! I want what YOU want.

After examining your choices, I will be leaving the AoS fold soon and joining the General Zod in '08 campaign. The reason being is I don't know how to pronounce "Cthulhu."

Posted by: kevlarchick on January 23, 2006 04:57 PM

Don't underestimate McCain. The pundit class hates him, but rank-and-file red-staters probably would pick him over others in the field with less name-recognition: Mitt Romney, for example. The only real contender I see in the (R) column in Giuliani, and he's got lots of skeletons in his closet.

I'll tell you what would be fun: if Joe Lieberman either switches to the Republican party (unlikely) or just runs as an Independent (possible). If it came down to vote for McCain or Hillary!, I'd write in a vote. Voting for Lieberman would provide a good outlet, as long as he wasn't running as a Donk.

Posted by: Monty on January 23, 2006 04:58 PM

As long as it isn't a Bush or a Clinton I will be happy, 28 years of 2 families in the White House is enough.

Posted by: scott on January 23, 2006 04:58 PM

I'd go with Cthulu over General Zod, but Dave Barry over Cthulu.

Also, of course it's too early to make educated guesses, but it's never too early to make uneducated guesses.

Also, I'll take Allah's pessimistic-yet-inaccurate track record in the '04 election as conclusive proof that Hillary! will lose. So, thanks for brightening my day, bud.

Posted by: Sobek on January 23, 2006 04:59 PM

Allah? Pessimistic?

Surely you jest.

Posted by: lauraw on January 23, 2006 05:02 PM

Agreed, scott.

But where do you come up with 28 years? Bush pere as VP?

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 05:02 PM

Well, in the SF/horror candidates category, I think it's still too soon to count out that "vampyre" Jonathon up in Minnesota. He's already declared for '08, and to my knowledge neither Cthulhu nor Zod carry a big frickin' sword. Not to mention a handy throw rug.

Posted by: utron on January 23, 2006 05:03 PM

Goddamnit, I'm the only freakin' candidate who's announced he's running and still no one mentions me! Where's my Joementum?

Posted by: Joe Biden on January 23, 2006 05:04 PM

What difference does it make? The lizard people will have taken over by then.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 23, 2006 05:04 PM

Utron, Zod doesn't need a sword, he's got heat vision.

And Cthulhu can drive you insane with mad-dreams of undead R'lyeh, all without ever waking up from his eternal ocean slumber. That's quality of service right there.

KevlarChick-- it's pronounced exactly like it's spelled.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 23, 2006 05:09 PM

I don't know, Monty. Not only does that pundit class not like McCain, neither does the Republican Party. That has always mattered much more on the elephant side of the equation.

I think by next election, particularly with the drubbing the Republicans are likely to take on ethical issues in the mid-terms, the candidate will be someone from outside the beltway. If you haven't seen Romney up close he is a great candidate.

Posted by: JackStraw on January 23, 2006 05:10 PM

What do you mean "Will" have taken over?

I know you are one of their pawns trying to hie the fact that they are already in control.

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 23, 2006 05:10 PM

Sorry, Joe, you're just not pretty enough. I mean, hair plugs and capped teeth? You're trying too hard, man. OK, you're prettier than Hillary but not as pretty as John Edwards.

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 05:11 PM

But where do you come up with 28 years? Bush pere as VP?

Yep. Hillary, Jeb, Jenna, Chelsea then Barbara could take us to 2048 and by then the next generation will be amongst us.

Posted by: scott on January 23, 2006 05:13 PM

we'll nominate a candidate when I am damn good and ready.

Posted by: Jack Bauer on January 23, 2006 05:14 PM

KevlarChick -

Based on this woman's experiences, maybe you should throw your support behind the reptile people. They sound like a pretty good deal for women.

"She was paralyzed and immobilized and the Reptoid would literally flip her on her stomach. Then he would proceed with a type of tantric sexual intercourse that would leave her absolutely exhausted. She never feared him. She sensed he was extremely powerful and very aggressive as if a member of a warrior caste. She even felt protected by him."

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e100799f.shtml

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 23, 2006 05:17 PM

I'd agree that McCain doesn't have a chance at winning the Republican primary; but then again, it's not called the stupid party for nothing... ;)

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic on January 23, 2006 05:18 PM

Yep. Hillary, Jeb, Jenna, Chelsea then Barbara

THEN Barbara? Dude the woman would be 187 by then.

Posted by: JackStraw on January 23, 2006 05:18 PM

Cthulhu--it's pronounced exactly like it's spelled.

Huh. I always thought it was one of those onomatopoetic words used for the sound of a loogie passing from one's mouth.

PS. Am I in mortal peril for blasphemy now?

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 05:20 PM

Not the George Washington one, the twin.

Posted by: scott on January 23, 2006 05:23 PM

No, not yet. But I'd be prepared to kill a heathen in case Cthulhu calls upon you.

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 23, 2006 05:25 PM

Before someone else says it:

"No, kelly, you're not in mortal peril for blaspheming Cthulhu, you're in mortal peril for using the word 'onomatopoetic'."

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 05:25 PM

Damn.

Steve, you've blown my cover, dude.

That link you provided looks mighty familiar. My alien implant must need new batteries since my "lost time" episodes are now surfacing. And, as we've discussed, the males are of the public urination caste, which explains why I don't fear them.

Submit, inferior female species!

Posted by: KevlarChick on January 23, 2006 05:27 PM

Cthulhu loathes me this I know,
For Al Hazrad tells me so,
Little ones were swallowed whole,
They were weak and ran real slow.

Posted by: Tres on January 23, 2006 05:28 PM

But I'd be prepared to kill a heathen in case Cthulhu calls upon you.

Well count me in then. Always look forward to some heathen-killin'.

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 05:31 PM

Ya'll forget that SC was McCain's undoing, if he hints that Graham is the VP, he's a shoe-in... he's already made a couple of trips down here, if he carries here, it's his to lose.

Posted by: JFH on January 23, 2006 05:32 PM

It's wistful thinking, and I voted for Bush twice, but Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell on the Democratic ticket would make me a likely Democrat voter.

There's nobody on the Republican side that makes me want to rush out and holla.

Posted by: BumperStickerist on January 23, 2006 05:32 PM

Cease this meaningless prattle, you spineless serfs! Lay yourselves at my feet and I will release your yellow, callowed laird Ace of Spades.

I WILL be your leader. You will surrender all to ME.

Posted by: General Zod on January 23, 2006 05:37 PM

Its too bloody early!
Besides we all know GANNON! will lock up the Brokeback mountain demo, and the rising again demo.

Posted by: Iblis on January 23, 2006 05:38 PM

I know who Bush wants to be the next president: My future girlfriend, Condi.

Posted by: sandy burger on January 23, 2006 05:42 PM

It's spelled "Cthulhu"

It's pronounced "Hillary Clinton"

Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fthagn '08!

Posted by: Nyarlathotep on January 23, 2006 05:43 PM

Thanhks for the link, d00d.

I tend to agree with utron about Hillary: way too much baggage to go the distance in a presidential campaign. It's one thing to stiff the press in a liberal state like NY, but there's no way she wants (or for that matter the Dems want) to see that closet door opened up. Skeleton avalanche.

I'd like to get excited about Allen, but I think he needs a little more charisma. OTOH, I guess that laid-back style is similar to Bubba's.

Posted by: John from WuzzaDem on January 23, 2006 05:43 PM

Pfflpt! As if any of this matters. Our next president will be whoever (whomever?) the Illuminati want.

Posted by: Enas Yorl on January 23, 2006 05:53 PM

Dick Cheney isn't running but his dick is. With Bolton's pornstache. They will crush their enemies, drive them before them, and hear the lamentations of their women. Condi will become CEO of Halliburton and rule the Arabian Peninsula with an iron fist. Jack Bauer will be HER bitch.

Posted by: craig mclaughlin on January 23, 2006 05:54 PM

IMO, it's going to be a "Governor-type" for the Repubs- there's just too much "loose shit" in DC that an "outsider/reformist" can run against...(my longshot is still Pawlenty).

The Dems, meanwhile, are so bat-shit loony-tunes that I have no idea which way they'll go...

PS- If McCain is the Republican nominee, I'll be a campaign volunteer for whichever Dem is running!

Posted by: fletch on January 23, 2006 05:54 PM

Dubya will endorse McCain. Why? McCain had a chance in 2004 to put the blocks to Bush, and he didn't - in fact, he worked hard for the ticket. And Dubya always remembers who his friends are.

As for who'll get the nod, it wouldn't surprise me if Rudy stole the bacon. Granted, he a social liberal, which won't go down well in religious circles; but he's rock solid on the GWOT, and that issue trumps everything else.

As for VP, if the Dems can talk up John McCain, we can certainly draft Joe Lieberman.

Posted by: Brown Line on January 23, 2006 06:04 PM

Kind of funny how it reads with the new layout:

And The Republican Nominee In 2008 Will Be. . . – Dave From Garfield Ridge

No offense, Dave, but somehow I doubt it. ;-)

Posted by: Bob on January 23, 2006 06:15 PM

I thought the Trilateral Commission was the umbrella for the Illuminati. Either way, Enas, I'm afraid you're right.

Posted by: kevlarchick on January 23, 2006 07:49 PM

I still can't stop giggling about Allah's certainty that Hillary will win.

Let me remind everybody that the guy is a genius.

Brilliant.
Possessed of a cutting insight into human nature. Wickedly funny.

And so sure his fellow Americans are going to vote for that bitch.

I can't even stand it.

Posted by: lauraw on January 23, 2006 08:05 PM

None taken, Bob-- I ain't old enough.

Then again, maybe I will be once BushHitlerChimp finishes shredding the Constitution. . .

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 23, 2006 08:16 PM

I'm voting for Young Chuck Norris!

Posted by: Madfish Willie on January 23, 2006 08:16 PM

Oh, crap. I just realized that by the time 2008 rolls around, I will be old enough to run for president.

35 - now THAT'S middle age...

Posted by: Slublog on January 23, 2006 08:22 PM

Slublog -

You're only as old as the woman you feel.

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 23, 2006 08:24 PM

Sure, that works for me. My wife is younger than I am. But what about poor Dave from GR, who's shacked up with an Estelle Getty doppelganger?

Posted by: Slublog on January 23, 2006 08:30 PM

Married, eh. That instantly adds about 5 years to your calendar age.

Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 23, 2006 08:38 PM

Hm. Just wait until April. That's when our first kid is due - I'm thinking that will add a good ten years right there.

Posted by: Slublog on January 23, 2006 08:41 PM

Actually, Slubs, it may feel that way, but it takes years off of you for a good while.

I'm saying that by witnessing my friends, who experienced their childhoods again through their kids. They get to play again; really play, the way kids do.

You get to see the world through a kid's eyes...one more time.

I am envious.

Posted by: lauraw on January 23, 2006 09:11 PM

The wingnuts aren't going to even need a nominee, and neither will the Democrats.

George Bush will have run the entire planet into the ground by then and we can all just kiss our asses good-bye.

Posted by: Josh on January 23, 2006 09:27 PM

Me?

I'm not envious of couples with kids and feeling childhood again vicariously. I'm just happy being 15 permanently. OK, maybe 21. That was how old I was when I first masturbated because I was getting so much tail from fourth grade on.

No, wait a minute, check that. The dude getting all the tail in fourth grade was Timothy Haag, not me.

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 09:30 PM

George Bush will have run the entire planet into the ground by then and we can all just kiss our asses good-bye.

Or you could do us all a favor, josh, and off yourself before Bush leaves office. Think of it as an honor killing, dickhead.

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 09:32 PM

Oh, and all that tail Timothy Haag was nailing in fourth grade? Everyone of them 19 year old supermodels who, to this day, wait by the phone for his call.

Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 09:36 PM

You're only as old as the woman you feel.

Steve, that's so lovely! *sniff*

Posted by: KevlarChick on January 23, 2006 09:36 PM

We really should feel sorry for Josh. Can you imagine being so deluded as to think one man can bring down an entire planet?

Well, one man can...but George W. Bush is no Jack Bauer.

Posted by: Lee Atwater on January 23, 2006 09:39 PM

"George Bush will have run the entire planet into the ground by then and we can all just kiss our asses good-bye." - Josh

Almost makes me miss eggtrollious, who at least attempts to explain why Bush will destroy the entire universe some time in the next 6 months.

However, I gather than eggy finally fell asleep while re-re--re-reading Chomsky's latest: Hegemonics Made Easy for Internet Trolls, Big Media Quislings and Grad School Losers

Posted by: max on January 23, 2006 09:46 PM

And The Republican Nominee In 2008 Will Be. . .

Condi's got my vote.

Posted by: iamfelix on January 23, 2006 09:52 PM

Has there ever been a football player named Josh? A boxer? Has anyone named Josh ever done anything manly in their entire lives?


Posted by: scott on January 23, 2006 10:08 PM

Hey, how about DAVID DUKE for the ticket?

Posted by: waynes world on January 23, 2006 10:34 PM

Hey, wayne. Howsabout you find some new material or shut the fuck up? How's that sound?

Posted by: Lee Atwater on January 23, 2006 10:38 PM

Has anyone named Josh ever done anything manly in their entire lives?

Does gay porn count?


Posted by: kelly on January 23, 2006 11:03 PM

Ever been to Duke's website? He writes shit that looks like it came straight off DU!

Posted by: zetetic on January 23, 2006 11:06 PM

Rudy can't fail.

I need to make a macro for that.

Posted by: Knemon on January 23, 2006 11:08 PM

I'm sure whoever a "Josh" has done was more manly than said "Josh."

Posted by: wiserbud on January 23, 2006 11:16 PM

Slubs, it's just sleep deprivation man,

not age.

don't confuse the two.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 23, 2006 11:19 PM

The real question is:

Who is Lincoln Chaffee going to vote for in '08?

(I still can't get over that idiot, a sitting Republican senator, casting a vote for someone not on the ballot. He deserves to lose his senate seat this November. Good riddance, Linc.)

Posted by: Bart on January 23, 2006 11:40 PM

Well, Joshua managed to bring down the walls of the oldest city in the world. But nothing in the past 6000 years, talk about resting on your laurels.

Posted by: MMDeuce on January 24, 2006 12:02 AM

I don't think Romney's religion (mormon) will be winning him many votes for nomination in flyover country (except er, Utah; maybe)

Posted by: doc on January 24, 2006 01:11 AM

Giuliani '08: "My city got bombed! And stuff!"

Posted by: scarshapedstar on January 24, 2006 04:24 AM

You're a real barrel of laughs, SSS.

FOAD

Posted by: lauraw on January 24, 2006 10:10 AM

I appear to struck a nerve, intimating that such a great leader as George W. Bush might do harm to our planet.

Could any of you provide evidence of anything "good" he's done since taking office?

Oh, and actually there are any number of people, named Josh (Joshua) who, over the centuries, have accomplished much. Basebal fans might start with Mr. Gibson.

Posted by: Josh on January 24, 2006 10:24 AM

Although my love for McCain has recently been dampened, I still think Monty is right.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on January 24, 2006 10:30 AM

He's kept Al Gore and John Kerry from naming anybody to the supreme court. Now go off yourself as you were told.

Posted by: on January 24, 2006 10:34 AM

my love for McCain has recently been dampened

*raises eyebrow* eh? what's this you say?

Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 24, 2006 10:45 AM

As for our great leader:

Could any of you provide evidence of anything "good" he's done since taking office?

Still waiting.

Posted by: Josh on January 24, 2006 12:04 PM

We've been through this with countless trolls before, Josh. It's just an excuse for you to list your infantile grievances.

If you want to throw your childish shit against the wall, just do it. You don't need any cues from us.

Posted by: spongeworthy on January 24, 2006 12:14 PM

spongeworthy:

Could any of you provide evidence of anything "good" he's done since taking office?

Posted by: Josh on January 24, 2006 12:29 PM

And hour later and still not a single posting regarding Bush and:

...evidence of anything "good" he's done since taking office?

What a shocker.

Posted by: Josh on January 24, 2006 12:37 PM

Josh:

We simply wrote you off as a gibbering retard and have decided to ignore you. I am breaking silence to inform you of our decision. Feel free to rough yourself up before fucking off.

Posted by: Monty on January 24, 2006 12:39 PM

Monty:
Like I said, there's not a one of you who can provide a shred of evidence Bush has done one good thing for our country.

You guys sure love to blather on, but when it comes to facts or evidence, you crawl back into your little caves...much, by the way, like Osama.

You DO remember him, don't you...you know, the murdering terrorist Bush said he's get..."Dead or alive."

Posted by: Josh on January 24, 2006 12:49 PM

Josh:

Monty's right - you are a gibbering retard. Tell me, oh maven of facts and evidence, why haven't we captured/killed OBL to date (hint: he's beyond our reach in Pakistan)? Then explain how expanding the pursuit will help (hint: it won't). Then tell us what you would do to cripple Al Qaeda in these circumstances (no hint this time).

As usual, liberal "analysis" is headlines-deep.

As to why we won't give you a list of the good things Bush has done, think about it. If I said the Energy Policy Act, you'd find something to bitch about. If I said the No Child Left Behind Act, you'd find something to bitch about. If I said the disruption of the Taliban, you'd find something to bitch about. If I said the bill curbing class-action lawsuites, you'd find something to bitch about. See a pattern?

You know, there are many things we don't like about Bush. We'd rather see someone who managed with less cronyism, more frugality, and a stronger stance on immigration. But more than anything, we want someone who will see the Iraq situation through to a successful conclusion. So stop your petty griping and find a candidate for the Democrats who is serious about defense, and in 2008 you can easily unseat the Republicans.

Posted by: geoff on January 24, 2006 01:13 PM
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