Wait, a showbiz awards show is one long freaking festival of anti-Americanism?

I'm shocked, shocked.

Narnia rocked.

What other movies were worth renting 2005?

40-Year-Old Virgin, if you can find the theatrical (not "uncut") version. The uncut one adds lots of momentum-halting junk.

Batman Begins was pretty good too.

I'm waiting for the lifetime achievement award for the liberal's newest hero, Larry Flynt.

Don't laugh. It could happen.

Hey, Barf...you ol' homophic Bush suckass...

It doesn't get any better than this:

God provides instant bad karma to one of this blog's big mouth homophobes.

"Brokeback Mountain" wins big at Golden Globes!!

"Brokeback's" haul included two of the top honors, best drama and best director for Ang Lee.
homophobes??

One of the biggest? I like to think I am the biggest homophobe on this blog.

As a matter of fact, I just won a Golden Globe for Biggest Homophobe.

Bart, how long have you had a fear of sameness?

But Sondra K. also had full, hilarious coverage of the Golden Globes:

http://sondrak.com/index.php/weblog/and_the_award_for_best_self_congradulatory_speech_goes_to/

(Keep scrolling.)

Z, ever since I saw my father's uncircumsized penis.

Wow, Mike, a movie that's been getting all sorts of crazy critical acclaim won a couple of awards that are handed out by...critics!

That's gotta be the most suck-ass "gotcha moment" in the history of the world.

But Sondra K. also had full, hilarious coverage of the Golden Globes:

Click here.

(And keep scrolling.)

Outside of Paradise Now the anti-american garbage only received best supporting actor and best supporting actress...In other news Munich didn't receive any nods whatsoever.

As for best actor, actress and film well sorry but like it or not gay is as american as apple pie.

But generally speaking if Hollywood wanted to stick it to middle America wouldn't they have to give a shit about it first?

Well, thanks for sharing that, Bart. I think I need to go and take a shower now.

Well Al, I recommend Narnia of course.

Sin City should get best picture (and definetly best cinematography!) as far as I'm concerned.

Batman Begins and Serenity also rocked.

Sin City is seriously my baromater. It should beat out BBM for cinematograhy,at least based on the BBM commercials (hey if Im not dating, I'm not going to waste $20 on some chick flick with buttsechs. The BAD kind of buttsechs)

BBM: Look at these mountains, aren't the pretty AND rugged just like Jake glynnehhhalla. Isn't ang lee great for thinking of using a camera to film landscapes?

Sin City: A living, Black and White, Frank Miller comic book. So many shots line up perfectly with a panel from the source material, without destroying the narrative flow. Pure talent

Then again, I gave up on Hollywood award shows after Pulp Fiction was robbed. They just don't reflect my taste.

True story, watching Angst Lee's Hulk with my buddy. He checks his watch about an hour in when the guy gets set to get set up for the scene where he later becomes the Hulk. "FINALLY!" my buddy says. That and the Hulk-poodles pretty much summed up Angst Lee. Who couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag. Ice Storm was interminably boring too.

None of these movies will be worth a damn two years down the road. Who the hell watches either Ghandi or Monster on DVD now? They cleaned up in awards and both are just ... boring. Yeah wow Ben Kingsley in a diaper and Charlize Theron looking ugly. That's a winner right there.

I mean "Capote?" Guy talking like a really effiminate 7 year old with constipation the whole movie? My best pics would be Narnia, Batman, Fantastic Four, Wedding Crashers. Movies that are fun and ENTERTAIN for two hours and $11 a pop.

Brokeback is like that year when Hollywood came out with three or four volcano movies, Mars movies, etc. Is gay the new gay? Pluto, Capote, Brokeback, TransAmerica?

Hey, Barf...you ol' homophic Bush suckass...

It doesn't get any better than this:

God provides instant bad karma to one of this blog's big mouth homophobes.

"Brokeback Mountain" wins big at Golden Globes!!

"Brokeback's" haul included two of the top honors, best drama and best director for Ang Lee.
homophobes??
Posted by: Mike on January 17, 2006 01:33 AM

Ahh, Mike swishes back over here on cue. Christ am I jealous that Bart gets all this heat and I don't. Bastard. Though that "homophobes??" is plural, so maybe I count too (in my dreams).

Here's a theory:
Mike == Jason == Downtown Lad
Mike and Jason have yet to brag about their swank apartment and fetching wardrobe though, so I could be wrong.

Constant Gardener was anti-capitalist ?
If there is a company whos practices make their digging mass graves necessary, and that gets criticised, that criticism isn't of the concept of capitalism. It's criticism of evil cunts.
Seriously WTF?

With me, it's the homophones. The damn homophones. I'm just terrified I'm going to get that "there, their, they're" thing wrong again and look like a jackass.

People who think movies like Fantastic Four, Sin City and Batman Begins are supposed to win Academy Awards probably shouldn't be allowed to vote or drive cars.

People who think movies in general and the Academy Awards in particular are issues important enough affect a citizen's qualification to vote or drive cars probably shouldn't be allowed to vote or drive cars.

Ahhh ... what if the Fantastic Four featured the following:

a guy who could only stretch his left foot,

a woman who had a mental problem which made her only *think* she was invisible,

a man who was a victim of child-abuse which caused him to set things on fire,

and Ben Grimm, who really can turn into a rock-being with enormous strength ... just so the movie has some cool car-crushing special effects.

Would *that* make FF Oscar-worthy?

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God provides instant bad karma to one of this blog's big mouth homophobes.

God chooses the Golden Globe recipients now. If He's tied up with the Golden Globes, who's choosing the Oscar winners this year? Oh yeah, that's right - Allah!

That leaves the Tonys, Emmys, or Grammys for Lucifer. I wonder which one he'll be working on. He throws the best backstage parties from what I understand.

That's me up there at 8:31 a.m.

The filmmaker says, "The feeling of the impotence is so strong that they kill themselves and others to say, 'I am not impotent.' It is a very complex situation, but the overriding umbrella is the injustice situation."

Viagra - the solution to terrorism.

Golden Globe Awards suck ass! I say two thumbs up for Brokedick Mountain!

oh, and uh, worship me! yeah, become my willing servant!

Tank,

I don't think that Constant Gardiner is considered anti-capitalist because it attacks one corrupt pharm company. It is considered anti-capitalist because the implication is that "this is what capitalistic greed inevitably leads to."

Rather like Platoon wasn't seen as a criticism of one particular sadistic sergeant and the few bad eggs who followed him but as a condemnation of the Vietnam war as a whole, and, as an extrapolation from there, all wars. Had it just been about one particular group of bad people it wouldn't have been so bad.

Or like Dogville, which for the entire movie looked like a parable of "this is how people are" but at the end was turned into "this is how capitalist Americans only are," a transition that destroyed any insight it had.

These "awards shows" are stupid to begin with. I mean, seriously: how man of these award-winning movies are still relevant even a year or two down the line, much less after decades? And yet we still watch movies like A Touch of Evil that never won an Oscar at all.

And the Oscar wanna-be shows (Golden Globes, People's Choice, Emmys, etc.) are even worse. These awards are what Hollywood likes, not what the ticket-buyers like. Hence Brokeback Mountain. This is their idea of a finger in the eye to Middle America -- "That'll teach those dullards in Jesusland!" And yet it won't change the trajectory of the film one bit: art house favorite, a short run in the theaters, decent DVD release, then oblivion.

A simple rule of thumb, gang: movie critics and reviewers are generally full of shit. They're either jaded postmodernists who think that the art of film peaked with Ingmar Bergman, or "sophisticated" female journalism majors who couldn't get a job doing hard news.

You want good movie criticism? Read Der Krapp.

Was the Golden Globes last night?

Oh-gosh-darn-I-missed-all-those-self-important-blowhards-patting-themselves-on-the-back-and/or-stimulating-themselves.

That sounded sincere, didn't it?

Screw the GOLDEN GLOBES SCREW THE OSCARS their all a waste of time these stupid award shows are just boring and are only awared to the must far left-wing propeganda

This year's award shows standard canned acceptance speech:

Bombs are flying
People are dying
Children are crying
Politicians are lying too.

Cancer is killing
Texaco's spilling
The whole world's gone to hell
But how are you?

I'm super
Thanks for asking
All things considered
I couldn't be better I must say

I'm feeling super
No, nothing bugs me
Everything is super when you're
Don't you think I look cute in this hat

I'm so sorry
Mr. Cripple
But I just can't feel too bad for you right now.
Because I'm feeling
So insanely super
That even the fact that you can't walk
Can't bring me down

Background singers:
He's super
Thanks for asking
All things considered
He couldn't be better he must say

Big Gay Award winner:
I'm super
No, nothing bugs me
Everything is super when you're
Don't you think I look cute in this hat
These little pants, this matching tie
That I got at Vogue

I'm super

Background singers:
In the barracks and the trenches as well

Big Gay Award winner:
Stick 'em up.

Background singers:
Big Gay Award winner says do ask, do tell

Big Gay Award winner:
Skittles

Background singers:
Yes he's super and he's proud to convey

Big Gay Award winner:
OK

Background singers:
Everything is super when you're gay!
When you're gay!

With the success of Brokeback Mountain, 2006 should prove to be the year of the gay remakes. We can probably look forward to:

A Bridge on the River Brokeback
A Band of Brokeback Brothers
Good Brokeback Fellas

TV will jump on the gay bandwagon and give us shows like

Brokeback 90210
Brokeback Bay Watch
Brokeback PD Blue

By the end of the year we will all be so gay (not that there is anything wrong with it) that Straight Eye for the Queer Guy will be a runaway hit.

Well, Ace missed the point of Paradise Now. I mean, even Roger Ebert got it: ""Paradise Now," like another 2005 film, "The War Within," and the 1999 Indian film "The Terrorist," humanizes suicide bombers. But in my mind, at least, that creates not sympathy, but pity; what a waste, to spend your life and all your future on behalf of those who send you but do not go themselves. "

However, God forbid we should feel pity or compassion for these poor misguided souls. That would be, oh, I don't know, too 'Christian' wouldn't it?

Finally, not sure who commented on this, but "Ice Storm" rocked. Too bad you didn't understand it. My freinds still talk about how great that movie was.

However, God forbid we should feel pity or compassion for these poor misguided souls. That would be, oh, I don't know, too 'Christian' wouldn't it?

I have exactly the same pity and compassion for suicide bombers as I do for other serial killers. And I do have some. I think both are mentally damaged in ways that we cannot tolerate and have no tools to fix.

On the plus side for suicide bombers: they execute themselves and save us all the angst of finding them and executing them as a society. On the negative side for suicide bombers: they tend to have a higher body count than serial killers and, in their case, the sillier among us often think the act of murder itself deserves sympathy.

But, then, I'm not a Christian.

My friends and me want to sing songs to suicide bombers,

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I seen you 'round for a long long time
I really 'membered you when you drink my wine

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I don't feel sympathy or pity for people who murder innocent men, women, and children. Not now. Not ever.

And the Ice Storm sucked big time.

The political rightwing has few great artists. As for film, I can't come up with a single director who is rightwing who is worth a shit.

There's a reason why.

"Paradise Now," like another 2005 film, "The War Within," and the 1999 Indian film "The Terrorist," humanizes suicide bombers.

Should save a little of that humanizing for our side, instead of villifying the administration and military at every opportunity.

dave

the miserable have only terrorism to fight back.

but the miserable must pay for their misery, eh?

"the sillier among us often think the act of murder itself deserves sympathy."

U also missed the point there S. Weasel. I wasn't saying we should pity them because they are murderers (although it is pitiable to be so misguided), but rather that suicide bombing is a waste of potential, AND that they are just being used by the terrorist masters.

Also, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some far right wing "Christians" who have forgotten Jesus's admonition to love one another.

I seen you walkin' down in Chinatown
I called you but you could not look around

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

I don't know anything about Paradise Now, but Gena Davis winning Best Actor in a drama is just WRONG!!!

the miserable have only terrorism to fight back.

Nice semantic moving of the goalposts, ergastularius. Terrorism is not "fighting back." If you're "fighting back" against a military with guerilla tactics, that's a legitimate moral stance. The "terrorism" enter the picture when you indiscriminately kill non-combatants and kidnap and kill non-combatants.

The miserable have always fought back, but only radical Islam considers it ethical to slaughter women, children, government workers, journalists, and foreign aid workers.

Our list of grievances is really long,
I'm gonna have to set you up the bomb!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

A waste of potential what, Larry? The terror masters have been reduced to using retarded kids in some cases. People who strap explosives to themselves without asking why the mullah or the mullah's son never does the deed, despite all wonderful things he says will result, are not potential Merit Scholars. Even by refugee camp standards.

Using this yardstick, almost certainly every one of the bomber's multiple victims had more potential. That's where I choose to invest my limited supply of sympathy.

And is it really an intolerable effort to spell "you" with all three letters?

U.S. and RAF bombing of hamburg, dresden, berlin, may have "indiscriminately killed" 400,000 german civilians.

"We" have done more "indiscriminately."

Eric Burdon sucks, dave. I have a song you can sing at your next minutemen meeting:

I don't care about you!
Fuck you!
I don't care about you!

I've seen an old man have a heart attack in Manhattan.
Well he just died while we just stood there lookin' at him.
Ain't he cute?

I don't care about you!
Ohhhhhhhhh!
I don't care about you!

The color of your skin don't matter to me
the shrapnel makes it all the same, you see!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

Sometimes I don't speak too bright
but yet I know what I'm talking about

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

Sorry 'bout that.

U.S. and RAF bombing of hamburg, dresden, berlin, may have "indiscriminately killed" 400,000 german civilians.

You're drifting farther and farther into fallacy and intemperate whining. Civilian deaths during WWII were a tragedy. 60 years ago. After the Germans had bombed London. We're talking about today. In Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think any suicide bombers are taking vengeance for the German populace.

Yes. At the end of a hop, skip, jump through your collective wisdoms here, all you have to reconcile what contradictions you're actually able to acknowledge is this: we can do that to you because we can, and you can't stop us.

I hope someone can get us back on track here with a low-budget fag-bash.

I'd kinda like to be the President
so I can tell you all to just get bent!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

But London deserved it.

"I can't come up with a single director who is rightwing who is worth a shit. There's a reason why".

There is a reason, you pompous, sanctimonious, elitist blowhard. The only "artists" you pay attention to are the ones who feed your near-sexual need to have your BDS and anti-Americanism fed by those you consider superior to yourself. You sniff for that wiff of George Clooney jiz on a directors' breath before you decide if he is "worth a shit" or not.
You're a nasty little fart, aren't you?

We're murdering the fuck out of civies right now, geoff. We murdered civies in Guatamala, Honduras, and maybe 600,000 in eastern Cambodia. Let's not kid ourselves. We are no more moral than any "suicide bomber." That's the point.

we can do that to you because we can, and you can't stop us.

And continuing the streak of fallacies with the third in a row, ergastularius erects his strawman. Nice trifecta. Go for 4!

I know you're working for the CIA
they wouldn't have you in the NSA!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

rickinstit

Give me one. Maybe Kazan, backstabbing asshole though he was.

Give me one, smart guy.

Egadsnefarious is a Nazi sympathizer now, how do you like that? There is no bottom to the depths leftists will sink to, really.

Is ergastularius really losing it, or, is he always this nuts?

There are many good right-of-center directors (well, there used to be): John Ford, John Huston, Elia Kazan (On The Waterfront is a very conservative film). But the liberal takeover of Hollywood in the early 1970's pretty much put paid to that.

And there are probably lots of directors who are right-of-center but "work liberal" because they still have to pay the rent like everyone else. (Mel Gibson is probably the exception -- but then he uses his own money to finance his films, too.)

Get your own, you nasty little fart.

I use expressions like “equivalence”
I gots cause you guys are so damn dense

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

No strawman. c'mon. If you think there is no contradiction, then say why.

you can't prove it with history. there must be some other justification. I think the only justification you have is: give us what we got, or we kill you.

You used to work on Reagan’s Murder squads
until you took a round thru both yer nards

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

To Commies who wish to smother and enslave the world, everyone who opposes them is a fascist, which is for all intents and purposes a synonym of "The Hegemon."

I guess I'd add Clint Eastwood to the "right of center" directors list, although that's probably too facile. He's a lot like John Huston that way; probably more libertarian than right-wing, if you know what I mean.

Some others in the same vein:

John Frankenheimer
William Peter Blatty
Willian Friedkin
Tony Scott (probably, gauging from his films)
Franklin Schaffner (Patton)

sue, you have never demonstrated here one small bit of substance in your thought. Your words are the sound, heard often here, of the person whose dull, wishful thinking never intercepts a moment of reality.

When I was broke I didn’t have a suit,
but now I’m cookin grits for Brown and Root!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

At the risk of sounding stupid, what does "BDS" stand for?

That was YOU?

BDS = "Bush Derangement Syndrome"

Charles Krauthammer coined the phrase to describe lefties who were so unhinged by their hatred of George W. Bush that it turned into an actual mental illness.

Actually, ergastularius, Sue can string together a nice, tight argument with the best of 'em. You, she's just flipping off.

Mmmm...nice, tight argument...

I see. :-) Makes sense now. Thanks, Monty!

BDS is Bush Derangement Syndrome.

It's what makes the lefties foam at the mouth and act all crazy, because, you know, Bush=Hitler.

Monty said it better and faster.

I haven't seen one movie on that list. Sweet.

Good movies I saw this year.

Narnia
I Walk the Line
Memoirs of a Geisha
King Kong (flawed but entertaining)
March of the Penguins

I stopped wasting my money on "art" trash years ago, about the same time I stopped smoking dope.

We steal your shit cause we’re Americans
you better get used to the Hegemon!

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

You see, Communism has not worked in the past 80 years because it has not been tried on a grand enough scale. In order to truly work, it must be planetwide. But the U.S. is standing in the way; it is the hegemon that immiserates all of the other peoples in the world by its "success."

Because economics is a zero-sum system (because wealth can only be measured by tangible, material resources) the only way that America can be successful is for all other nations to fail.

Therefore, America is evil and must be destroyed. Only then can immiseration be eliminated by distributing misery evenly among the proletariat, while the more-equal-than-others get dachas with jacuzzis.

Judging by post election reports, moonbats were rushing to their psychs couch.

sue, you have never demonstrated here one small bit of substance in your thought. Your words are the sound, heard often here, of the person whose dull, wishful thinking never intercepts a moment of reality.

And yours is a tale
told by an idiot,
full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing

Remind me to look you up if my husband ever dumps me, Texas Dave. ;)

count on it Sue.

lunch now. more later if it's still trolling around here.

ergastularius is complaining about a lack of substance in someones post?
What next, he'll start ragging on people for not backing up their points? or spelling errors?

Projection: The favorite mental disorder of the Democratic Party

@Muslihoon "BDS" stands for Bush Derangement Syndrome, the current tack of the Left.
Basically anything and everything Bush does is wrong, outside of historical context or comparisons

S. weasel: Quite the little eugenicist, aren't you? Anyway, it's not an "either-or" proposition. Pity is not a well that runs dry. And, while you continue to treat my comments as defense of terrorism, they are most assuredly not. My point is, and I believe the movie's point is, terrorism is senseless especially when looked at from the point of the suicide bomber himself.

Let me give you an analogy: Who is more guilty, the hit man who assasinates a rival gang member, or the mob boss who ordered it? While both are guilty, I would say, morally, it's the mob boss.

Here's another analogy: While I pity George Bush, and his piss-poor performance as President, that takes nothing away from the fact that I really, really hate him and think he should be impaled on a pike at the city limits of D.C. See, pitying someone doesn't mean I support thier position.

Finally, I'lll use the contractions U and UR whenever I feel like it, as that is what people do these days and I'm a bad typist. It's the aughts of the 21st century, Weasel, get modern.

Sin City was just trash. Characters I didn't care about, a story that didn't make a lot of sense, scenery-chewing of the first order... man, I could go on.

Just pure junk. I guess it looked interesting, which made the movie watchable for all of 15 minutes. Then, once you were inured to it, the movie had to rest on the characters, dialog and plot. Oops, big mistake.

I watched The Lion in Winter again over the weekend. Hollywood is dead.

Let me give you an analogy: Who is more guilty, the hit man who assasinates a rival gang member, or the mob boss who ordered it? While both are guilty, I would say, morally, it's the mob boss.

Jesus, you really think that? That the person capable of doing the deed in cold blood, blowing someone away for money or because he was told to by a big guy carries a smaller burden of guilt?

And, yes, I realize that you will use txt spl anytime you feel like it. I only pointed out that you look ignorant when you do.

We're murdering the fuck out of civies right now, geoff.

I'm assured by government sources that their fuck is completely intact.

More seriously, we have OBL, 2/23/98:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies – civilians and military – is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order to for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim…. We – with God’s help – call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.

Someone was looking for an explanation of BDS earlier?

Here's another analogy: While I pity George Bush, and his piss-poor performance as President, that takes nothing away from the fact that I really, really hate him and think he should be impaled on a pike at the city limits of D.C. See, pitying someone doesn't mean I support thier position.

Posted by Larry the Urbanite:
While I pity George Bush, and his piss-poor performance as President, that takes nothing away from the fact that I really, really hate him and think he should be impaled on a pike at the city limits of D.C. See, pitying someone doesn't mean I support thier position.

Paging the Secret Service: cleanup on aisle two.

Actually, I think he got the pike idea from Jonathon. From The Impaler's site, the "War" page:

"Though my Magikal Path Name is: Lord Ares, I do not believe that Americans should die needlessly in Iraq or any other country...Upon becoming President I will immediately recall ALL servicemen and women from combat areas around the world. Additionally, I will have President George W. Bush charged and tried for the murders of every American that has been killed in Iraq as a result of him sending them into War. Upon being convicted, I think everyone knows what his punishment will be."

I don't understand the visceral hatred so many on the Left feel for W. Seriously. I mean, I wasn't Bubba's biggest fan back in the day, but I didn't hate him. "Hate" requires a kind of personal relationship, in my mind; you cannot truly hate someone unless you have some kind of intimacy with them (which explains why bad relationships turn into the worst vendettas).

But Larry illustrates most succinctly the problem the Left has these days: because it's all about feelings and how you feel about things, they transfer their feelings to the most visible cause of their distress. Head-shrinkers call this displacement -- a free-floating anxiety on the Left has found an anchor in the person of George W. Bush.

Based on the demented rantings you see on the DU and elsewhere, you'd think that W. personally showed up at their house and took a dump on their rug, all the while roaring out troll-like laughter. And yet by all accounts George W. Bush is a fairly humble and reserved kind of man, religious and regular in his habits. Displacement explains a lot, given these facts.

Not that you'll ever convince people like Larry or Egadshilarious, though. They are convinced that George W. Bush is a jack-booted fascist intent on sending all dissidents to the salt-mines, and nothing so inconvenient as the facts will stand in the way.

Besides, everybody knows that Dick Cheney's cock and John Bolton's mustache are two of the four hosemen of the Apocalypse.

W. personally showed up at their house and took a dump on their rug

I got twenty bucks that says one of em will come in and say "that's exactly what W did to my country".

count on it Sue.

lunch now. more later if it's still trolling around here.

Dave is ready to spring into action when he is needed. Simply flash the "Sign of the Sammich" into the sky and he will appear...

mmmmmmmmmmm.. sammiches!

W. personally showed up at my house and...ate my sammich!

I never said bush is a fascist. I said he was a disaster.

Speaking of Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, what happened to Johnny Coldcuts?

lol Sean

I dunno, Monty, I never pictured trolls as roaring in laughter. I always figured they were more the slow chuckling type. Now your orcs might be likely to roar, and of course your elves are just going to smile in quiet superiority, but I just don't see trolls getting off a belly laugh.

Of course, I picture Internet trolls as giggling uncontrollably, or else howling at their saliva-flecked monitor in fury. I doubt there is a middle ground.

And as for the "hosemen" of the Apocalypse, I'm still trying to come up with a good joke. I'm sort of thinking about this fireman angle, you know? And maybe working in a reference to another liberal boogeyman, like Condi Rice's sexual complexes.

Cool fact about Condi:
The NSA has to doctor all her photos so her glowing Go'A'uld Cat eyes look like normal humans

I never said bush is a fascist. I said he was a disaster.

Based on what? If we go strictly by past performance metrics, W. ends up closer to the front of the line than the back in terms of past Presidents. Certainly better than, say, Taft, Buchanan, et. al. In terms of 20th century presidents, he's certainly ahead of most of them: only Truman, Reagan, and (maybe) FDR come out ahead.

The parallels with Reagan are obvious: both are presidents that were roundly hated by the Left, both had unpopular (but effective) foreign policy, both worked to modernize the military, and both were fans of cutting taxes to boost the economy.

I remain convinced that George W. Bush will be remembered as one of America's truly great presidents.

hosemen

Holy Jesus. Why is it that every time I make a damned spelling error, it has to be the most Freudian subtext-loaded mistake imaginable? Hosemen. Good frigging grief.

And why must Mrs. Peel mock me after stringing me along in such a shameful way?

Displacement explains a lot, given these facts.

You ascribe to leftist fantasies a record of Bush failures. Of course, he is not not done stumbling Texas-style through history, like a John Ford whitehat whose transgressive stupidities are forgiven by the one coy smile of a lovely senorita. Among the many failures: big government, mortgaging the future with spending solely aimed at voter placation, corporate cronyism and bureaucratic braindrain, arrogant alienation of "allies," a churchlady's persistent inability to mind her own goddamn business, and the collosal stupidity of this war, which we will surely lose if we don't have the will to pursue the kind of progrom giving texas dave his usual wetdreams.

No. he is abjectly a failure.

If there is a film that is a creepy document to this idiocy, it is gaspar noe's Irreversible, in which W is the tunnel rapist ("the tapeworm") and the raped girl is the world.

You know, I have to admit: it was a little bit personal between me and Clinton. Because, you know, when he wagged that improbably long finger in my face and said, "I did not have sex with that woman..." I believed him. Totally believed him. I knew he was a horn dog, but anybody could manage to keep it in his pants for four years with the stakes so high. I was ashamed of my side for believing such an obvious fraud. It makes one quite cross to stick up for an enemy against a friend only to be played for a chump.

I dunno, Monty, I thought Bart's typo the other day about spurwing coming back for "me" (instead of "more") was better.

I mock because I care. And I notice that even though you were ever-so-disappointed, you're still able to produce the link rather swiftly. (I originally said "you've kept the link handy" but decided I didn't want to go that route...)

Another great example of BDS

"If there is a film that is a creepy document to this idiocy, it is gaspar noe's Irreversible, in which W is the tunnel rapist ("the tapeworm") and the raped girl is the world."

We should keep a list.

If there is a film that is a creepy document to this idiocy, it is gaspar noe's Irreversible, in which W is the tunnel rapist ("the tapeworm") and the raped girl is the world.

Egadshilarious is obviously hitting the crackpipe harder than usual today, so I'll direct my remarks to the not-high portion of the readership: the American government is more than just George W. Bush. He did not personally do anything -- he, as a duly elected representative of the American people, worked within the political process to achieve his ends. That's why winning elections matters!

But to the Left it's always about "outcomes". Democracy is fine and dandy if the outcome is "correct", but they are all for statism and repression if it advances the "progressivist agenda". Which explains their shameful love-affair with Stalinist Russia and Communist Southeast Asia.

Listen to Egadshilarious' words: he speaks broadly of "people" and "history", but personalizes it in such a way that we are supposed to think of W. personally raping some helpless woman. How sick is this? Further, also note the generic language -- with the Left, it's never about individuals but always groups. Genders, classes, victims, unions. Your only value to the Left is that of your membership in some victimized group; your personal dreams and aspirations matter not at all. The Left essentially doesn't give a shit about individual human beings (which is why they are so in love with socialist doctrine, I suppose).

Displacement, people. Marvel at Egadshilarious, because he has demonstrated this truth with absolute fideltiy.

a churchlady's persistent inability to mind her own goddamn business

Holy Crap snuffaluphagus, I hope you're not talking about Iran here. I think that a muslim terrorist nation getting both atomic weapons and massive stockpiles of "weapons grade crazy" in the same room would be "our business", at least if we had any sense at all.

I was impressed that you used scare quotes around "allies" - apparently you DO understand that those in the international community who purport to be our friends are not always what they appear to be. Maybe you're not a complete tool after all.

or, W as the french colonists steadfastly defending their outpost of power in the director's cut of Apolcalypse Now.

or, W as the french colonists steadfastly defending their outpost of power in the director's cut of Apolcalypse Now.

Deep, man. Deep.

ergastularius - I had originally written a serious response to your dismissal of the President as a failure, but then I scrolled up and saw what else you've had to say today.

Among the many failures: big government, mortgaging the future with spending solely aimed at voter placation, corporate cronyism and bureaucratic braindrain, arrogant alienation of "allies," a churchlady's persistent inability to mind her own goddamn business, and the collosal stupidity of this war

Did you copy and paste a lefty article about Reagan? I'm only able to think you meant Bush because it stated big government instead of deficit.

No, Russ, at a guess what he meant was that because Bush is a Christian, they feel repressed by him. He hasn't actually imposed his personal morality on anyone through legislation, but they're pretty sure he's itching to. So, hands off, uptight dude!

I mock because I care.

You know what I care about? Female nudity. It's a matter of the endocrine system, memetic reinforcement of evolutionarily-derived secondary stimuli, and...well, an esthetic appreciation of female sweater-ponies. It's art, baby! Show me some art!

BTW, Mrs. Peel: the launch of the New Horizons Pluto probe is about ten minutes away. It's on Nasa TV if you can get it where you are.

or egregious as The Gimp getting his rough justice in Pulp fiction.

What are you busting my balls for Monty?

roc, I would agree with you, but Dana Carvey didn't come up with his "churchlady" character until the first Bush presidency.

Mrs. Peel, based on experience here and at other places, I think you need to begin with the assumption that trolls are not interested in debate until they show signs of higher brain functions.

Snuffaluphagus, I just don't know what to say, but since you've played the movie comparison card, I would have to say that your kneejerk support for the BDS platform is reminiscent of Jake Glyllenhallenheimer's anal receptivity in Brokeback Mountain.

I broke inside your house and took a dump,
I danced and laughed and slapped you on the rump,

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

William Howard Taft:

If you hadn't pissed off Teddy Roosevelt enough to split off into his stupid "Bull Moose" party (which split the Republican vote), Wilson never would have won the Presidency and that stupid "League of Nations" idea never would have got off the ground.

You got a lot to answer for, you fat bastard!

You've got lots to answer for, you fat bastard!

Dave...is there a reason you're not spelling it "friends"? A vampyre-inspired reason, perhaps?

You got a lot to answer for, you fat bastard!

You've got lots to answer for, you fat bastard!

Wha?!? How the hell did that happen?

I spelled it that way cause that's how Larry the Urbanite spells it. He's so damn smart I just assumed he was right. My bad.

I bring my money to the welfare line,
I like to hear the po' folks bitch and whine

Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?
Why can't we be freinds?

Get off my ass. Anyway my real claim to fame is that I am the last President with facial hair.

bitch Roosevelt couldn't take the heat. loud-mouthed pimp, always runnin around with his "bully" this and "bully" that.

Among the many failures: big government, mortgaging the future with spending solely aimed at voter placation,

Reagan definitely did not placate.

Taft, you fat fucking bastard. You want to say that to my face, bitch?

At least I don't get stuck in bathtubs, chubbster.

Suck it Teddy Bear. You want a piece of me? Name the place and time.

And it WASN'T a bathtub, it was the f'n' shower in the Lincoln bathroom!

Cocksucker. You watch yer ass or I'll tell everyone here the REAL reason they called you a "Rough Rider".

Taft,

Whose head is immortalized on Mount Rushmore again? Oh, that's right! Mine! Boo-yah!!

Monty: U said " I don't understand the visceral hatred so many on the Left feel for W." U don't? OK, how about another analogy: William J. Clinton, impeached for schtupping some girl on gov't time, a non-gov't related function. The right viscerally hated him, and he was a centrist!

But neocon Bush get's a free ride on multiple gov't related functions: lying to the US about the war, cronyism, NSA spying, taking more vacation days than any other Pres, nominating a clearly unqualified candidate, living in a bubble, being controlled by Chenney. Yet not one of these have been reason enough to have any of the GOP representatives support investigations. Not witch hunts, just thier constitutional responsibility for oversight. What's not to love!

And, besides, that isn't the point of any of my posts, ur just trying to get away from the central message of the film, that these people are pitiable. Oh, wait, demonizing the opponent...standard conservative tactics, check!

Hypocrite.

Gotta love this site -- we start out with a Lefty-driven awards show, and end with a flame-fest between Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.

That's entertainment, people!

Hypocrite.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Also: people who post anonymously should shampoo my crotch. Post a nick or fuck off.

Jesus was there ever a slob more in love with himself than you Ted? Three of the country's greatest Presidents have to share a mountain with your bug-eyed puss.

That would be, oh, I don't know, too 'Christian' wouldn't it?

Hey, thanks for all the attention. Now get outta my face.

Three of the country's greatest Presidents have to share a mountain with your bug-eyed puss.

Eighty years later, and you can still feel the hurt. Fat and jealous is no way to go through life, son.

Both of you shut the fuck up. We all know who the most admired, respected president of these United States is.

Hint: where can I find those Taft and Roosevelt memorials on the National Mall? Hmmm...?

U said " I don't understand the visceral hatred so many on the Left feel for W." U don't?

I also wanted to add that people who use that brain-dead "texting" jargon ("U don't? O RLY?") make me want to bash them in the larynx with a crowbar. Learn to write English properly, you stooge.

Learn to write English properly, you stooge.

Yes, please do. I am rolling in my grave, here.

William J. Clinton, impeached for schtupping some girl on gov't time, a non-gov't related function.

Is he serious? Again one of these dipsticks with the "Clinton was impeached for consensual sex" nonsense? C'mon Larry, why was Clinton impeached? Google it up if you need to, but don't go through life with misapprehensions of that magnitude.

Oh yeah Ted, I just can't get enough of those tourists gawking at a rock saying "wow, look, it's Washington, Jefferson, some dumb-ass with a monacle and Lincoln".

Oh Abe, they fixed your head up real nice, didn't they?

asshole

Where's the love, people?

Chester, you go, boy-eee!

Your boy's all in my face. Tell him to shut up already with the fat jokes, Christ it's not like he's Twiggy himself you know what I'm sayin?

Oh all of you just shut up. At least you didn't have to keep reminding people of your first freaking name!

Don't make me cough on you sons of bitches.

As long as Taft and Teddy continue to fight, people will forget trying to pin the depression on me. Geez, I was in office less than a year when the market crashed. Anyhoo, I heard Teddy tell this chick that the last time Taft saw his weiner was 200lbs ago. Have at boys.

Harrison, how in the hell did you expect them to remember it, you weren't in office long enough for anyone to learn it?

Told you to wear a coat. Pimp.

Herb, I can't believe anybody still thinks you're smart enough to start a depression. And Teddy mean the last time he saw my schlong he we wearing my belly on top of his head!

Y'all chill up in here, aight? I'm tryin' to get my groove on wit Sally, and y'all be illin' 'n shit. Sit down and shut da hell up, fo' I get Burr in here ta bust caps in all y'alls asses!

Yo, T.J., you wanna bring your trash-talkin' ass down here? Yeah, that's what I thought. 'Least I got a decent ride. Not that that blinged-out pimp-carriage you roll. Punk-ass bitch, that's all you is.

All right, all right - everyone just settle down. This squabbling isn't looking very Presidential. And remember, I'm the only important one on that cliff.

Hey, Harrison! Like Taft said, wear a coat, bitch. And if you knew how to fight Injuns, maybe I wouldn't have croaked. You don't leave any of them alive, numbnuts.

I'm sure Abe and JFK know what I'm talking about.

You tell him, Mickey K.

And what are you bringing those two into it for? People actually know who their assassins were. We didn't rate three-named assassins - just a first name, an initial, and a last name. That's why you and me need to stick together.

Hey, WK, remember to duck!

HOOOOaaaaAa I crack myself up sometimes!

Hey, Garfield, that think Alexander Graham Bell brought in to find the bullet, that was all bullshit wad'nit?

I swear, that bitch brings one more goofy ass idea to the Patent office I'm onna slap him myself.

Taft, you whale! I don't even know why you're in this fight.

Let me remind you of a little something: "I don't remember that I ever was President." Huh, how's that for a little eye-opener?

Yeah, we all know why you liked the Supreme Court so much. It was the only job where you could get clothes that fit. Too bad they don't have Judges' Muu-Muus.

*coughs*

WHOOT! WHOOT! Zachary Taylor's in da HOUSE!! Give it up for the Z-Man!! Whigs RULE!!!!

Hey, who's up for cherries and milk?

Ye gods and little fishes, what happened to this thread while I was away?

Whigs, huh? Somebody go ask my brother about Whigs.

Hey, WHH, bite my clank you phlegmy little fart blossom. You can't member you were Prez cause of that little problem tween you and Mister John Daniels.

cough medicine - like anybody was buyin that shit.

I disapprove of the tenor of this seance.

Because I'm simply superior, that's why.

Also, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some far right wing "Christians" who have forgotten Jesus's admonition to love one another.

I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't talking about some crazy fuckhead trying to blow everybody up when he said that.

Oh fine, his exalted Lord Woodchip has decided to speak to the little peoples.

BOO! The Meskins are coming, biatch! They're gonna sneak the Hun across the Rio Grande in a doublewide and 12 railcars. Run! Run!!

Why do leftists think that Jesus was some peace-out hippy dude?

According to lefties, all Jesus taught was 'like, be good to each other, and like, forgive and shit.'

I'm far from the right person (athiest) to be telling you to get your ass to Church, but for Fuck's sake, at least read the Bible if you're going to preach to REALLY RELIGIOUS RIGHT WINGERS about what's in it!

Low blow, Jumbo. I'd challenge you to fisticuffs, but my Quaker upbringing prohibits me from busting your pie-eating ass.

hehe hehe

Yeah, the libs forget that the J-man was pretty quick on the whip.
You can turn your own cheek, but you have an obligation to help your brother.

Dave in Texas:

Loved the lyrics, BTW.

Fasshizzle

Que paso baby que paso!
I want to be your only vato!

Inigo

1) Tell Ace to get a message system that doesn't erase my personal info (even when I check the box) and I'll post a name every single time. Also, try to keep up, the post you reference was part of a running discussion.

2) Hypocrite: I was refering to Monty's query as to why the Left hates W so much, by pointing out that the right hated Clinton at least as much, for less reason. Hence, hypocrisy.

lauraw: 12 years of Catholic school, the last 4 by Jesuits, means a) I gots plenty o' religion and b) when u assume blah blah blah.

Kind David, I think Solomon was hittin on me at dinner last night.

Monty who made u the God of internet ettiquete (sp?) Also, since u ain't typing that on an Underwood, I assume you are familiar the various uses of the internet, and this form of communication is as good as another. I'm a terrible typist, so I take any shortcuts I can.

Hey, let me know how ur crusade to make everyone type every single f-ing letter goes. 'Till then, STFU.

(Ironic that Monty wants the world to stand still. Just like a conservative. )

by pointing out that the right hated Clinton at least as much, for less reason. Hence, hypocrisy

Sorry Laurence of Urbania, just saying it isn't the same as making a point. No way the amperage on Clinton hatred is even close, cause we didn't get screwed out of an election like you and your ilk moan about, and you've been ranting about it non-stop for 5 years.

#ey anonymous, U suxx0r!!! @!! your base are belong to me, m0therf**ker!

|v|0nty is 5() g0!ng to pwn U!!!

w00t!!!!!

Hey Josie, who appointed you to be the official scolder of the Internet. You and Bob are two pains in the ass.

All of your comments are about other commenter's comments, not about the topic.

Laurence of Urbania

Oustanding, Dave!!1!

In other words, blubber-butt, all the Huns will fit in the freight capacity normally reserved for your own adipose self?

"lauraw: 12 years of Catholic school, the last 4 by Jesuits, means a) I gots plenty o' religion and b) when u assume blah blah blah. "

4 years with the Jesuits? That all? You pussy. Try 8, with 6 years of Christian Brothers to break it up. Plus 8 with the Sisters of Mercy. Then you start to have religion.

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I was refering to Monty's query as to why the Left hates W so much, by pointing out that the right hated Clinton at least as much, for less reason.

Except that Monty had already addressed your point in his original post. Try and keep up.

Woodrow, am I gonna have to choke a bitch?

Am I?

That's it Taft, I'm cutting you off! Grant, don't serve anymore alcohol to Taft, he's a mean drunk.

Ironic that Monty wants the world to stand still. Just like a conservative.

Two things:

1. Post a nickname or fuck off. Anonymous trolls are equivalent of dog turds on a city sidewalks.

2. Your inability to spell, use punctuation, or speak in anything other than than a "texting"-driven babble, leads me to believe that our public school system has turned out yet another future food-service worker. Enjoy your job at Burger King.

That's all I have to say to you until you start posting with a handle, dimwit.

Monty:

The anonymous comments are all by Larry the tUrbanite, who hasn't yet figured out that the site is finicky about remembering his info.

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Tank, I don't think that Constant Gardiner is considered anti-capitalist because it attacks one corrupt pharm company. It is considered anti-capitalist because the implication is that "this is what capitalistic greed inevitably leads to."
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Well go with that interpretation then. However it is still just as puzzling as why this is presented as an unfair criticism.

Is the idea that capitalistic greed is a value that needs defending ? I think you are gonna be hard pressed to come up with a positive example of it in action.

Of course greed is not a virtue.
Your term capitalistic greed is hooey.

Are you going to throw the baby out with the diaper? Is capitalism all bad?

Bart, capitalistic greed isn't my term. It is however appropriate for the actions of corporations like this, Nike and Walmart.

As as for your question I haven't suggested abandoning capitalism and frankly anyone who saw Constant Gardener and thought that is what the movie was suggesting/implying/etc is too retarded to respond to in the first place.

Greed is good.

fuckin-A

Can't find any example of something positive that capitalistic greed has produced? How about just about everything we have! The only reason anyone would start a business would be if they were unsatisfied with what they have and want more. That's "greedy," right? The only reason anyone expands a business is that they want more. The only reason one hires workers is that one wants more. The only reason the workers buy anything is that they want more than they have if they didn't buy anything. The only reason investors provide money for new businesses is that they want more.

Etc., etc., etc. The only reason you are reading this post is that somebody invented a transistor, then a capacitor, then a silicon chip, etc. The only reason they did that is that they wanted more than what they had.

The only reason we don't sit in mud holes eating raw meat, berries, and bark, and dying in our 20's after a life of misery and disease is that people throughout history wanted more than that. Which is greedy. And positive.