Don't you spoil it for me.

I don't know, but whatever it was we were doing recently, it's triggered Google Ads to show nothing but ads for Sex Crime Lawyers.

Now one of them says "FREE BABY SAMPLES".

You can't get those at the market where I live!

I've got another question. When did CTU start hiring Hobbits!?

Shawn,

It's not a spoiler. IT happens ten minutes in and it's a minor thing.

DAGUMMIT! The twist at the end is exactly opposite of what me and friends were hoping.

SPOILERS BELOW

We didnt' want another doomsday scenario....

ok

Better forward the ads to the sex crimes lawyers to the NPR guy. He's going to need them.

Okay, you can talk about anything you want. No one is holding a gun to my head to read this thread. Was episodes 3 & 4 as good as 1 &2? Great explosions in episode 1.

Taylor Nichols. He was in Whit Stillman's films. Main character in Barcelona.

THANK YOU!!!

Guest Cast Here--I don't watch the show, but scroll to the bottom and you can look it up.

Guy that gets fleeced and then ditched by his family in "Boiler Room".

$5 please.

thanks bama, but you were beaten, and I didn't see Boiler Room. No $5 for you.

Is Ace going to have a radio show tomorrow, I wonder?

(why am I talking like a Joo retiree from Florida? Oy.)

I just have one question, The terrorist leader is in the airport with all the hostages, makes his first cell call to the police and the sgt outside on the detail gets the call? Whats with that?

I've tried to get "into" 24, but I just don't feel it. It's probably because I don't watch it on weekly television -- I wait for the season sets to come out on DVD, and then watch 'em one after the other. However, watching it that way really illustrates the silliness of many of the plotlines and the "perils of Pauline" nature of the whole thing. (I think the dumbest part was when Jack's daughter is menaced by a frigging cougar. I actually groaned aloud when that fetid little scene played out.)

I prefer Battlestar Galactica, mainly because it's driven by character rather than plot. In 24, all you really have is a plot. The whole show just becomes a parade of "24 conventions" -- which major character is going to die, who the "boss level" terrorist will turn out to be, who the mole is at CTU, etc., etc. It becomes less an episodic drama than a non-interactive video game where Jack has to level up each episode and attain power-ups in order to defeat the boss at the end.

Then, next season he'll do basically the same thing all over again.

Meh. Give me BSG or Monk any old day.

I thought it was exciting at first, but it took too long for Jack to power up to Super Sayan 4 so he could blast Piccolo with the Kamehameha.

First, who was giving me a hard time a few weeks ago about there always being a bathroom urinal scene?

Second, when Mrs. Logan walked in on Mr. Burke standing at the urinal, what was the protocal?

Monty, I just added all the DVDs to my Netflix queue to se what all this hoopla is all about.

Netfix is pissing me off, by the way. I've had Serenity and Cinderella Man in my queue for months and still haven't seen either DVD. Now I find out it's a "very long wait" for the 1st disc of season-1 of 24.

You forgot one - "datamine".

I was waiting for someone to demand a data mine on the first guy who got popped in the melon and was leaking hemoglobin all over the floor.

What an odd, cartoonishly interesting show.

As for the bathroom scene, the Mrs. and I were trying to guess when Berke was going to zip up, flush, or wash his hands. He did none of the above, then handed his key-card to the Designing Woman, who put it in her mouth.

My wife was howling in disgust, but that's just the way she rolls.

Extremely simplified rules for the 24 drinking game: Take one shot for each frame of video*.

* In Europe, take an extra 5 shots every time someone in Jack's family is kidnapped since you have the advantage of having only 25 frames per second.

One could take a shot every time Jack growls a tough guy threat and get good and hammered. My favorite is when he tells the baggage handler/terrorist; "You're going to tell me what I want to know, it's just a question of how much you want it to hurt." I hope Sullivan watched that and fainted.

Once Tony is out of surgery, I'll enjoy feasting my eyes on him and taking a drink whenever he gets that anguished look on his face.

I'll be tanked within ten minutes and ready to comfort Tony Alameda.

I've just posted my running list of 24 mistakes and plot holes.

Feel free to contribute your own...

The nerve-gas bottle's lids were labeled with bio-hazard symbols.

Incorrect labeling.

Also, not one of the terrorists reacted to the blatant
"Flank-2" code use. Incongruous.

"It's driving me nuts"

Short trip

I'm not sure the "24" drinking game will work; you'll be too drunk to finish watching the episode if you follow the above rules. For example, last night during episode 3, Bill told Chloe (this was before the hobbit showed up to take charge of CTU-LA) that Chloe had violated five CTU protocols. Chloe corrected Bill by telling him that she'd actually violated 26 protocols. By the above rules, if you have to take one drink per protocol violation by a CTU agent, you'd have to down a whole bottle of whiskey right there.

Personally, the thought of "Samwise" being in charge of counterterrorist ops - even on a TV show - is enough to make me want a stiff drink or two. On the plus side, it could have been worse: instead of Sean Astin, they could have cast Elijah Wood as Jack's new boss...

I love 24 and wondered how the extreme conservatives here are dealing with an obvious dichotomy between rooting for Jack to kill the terrorists and watching a bumbling, fumbling president that sure looks like he's fashioned after Bush.

The president's character doesn't appear to have a clue, can't make a decision without begging for advice, then when he does do something, it directly conflicts with the advice he's been given. (Except from the guy who's working with the terrorists.)

Just wondered.

watching a bumbling, fumbling president that sure looks like he's fashioned after Bush

Logan doesn't resemble Bush at all.

A bumbling, fumbling president that can't make a decision? Jimmy Carter.

Logan obsessing over his legacy ? That's Bill Clinton to a tee.

Besides, if the Logan character truly represents Bush you woul be cheering for his and Jack's defeat in every episode. (sort of like you do in real life)

"Fashioned after Bush?!" Mary, I actually thought President Logan looks more like Chucky Schumer than President Bush. Either President Bush, for that matter. And he acts more like Jimmy Carter with a bad case of nerves, to wit:

The president's character doesn't appear to have a clue, can't make a decision without begging for advice, then when he does do something, it directly conflicts with the advice he's been given. (Except from the guy who's working with the terrorists.)

Yep, that sounds like Carter. And a little like John Kerry, too...

And as far as "taking advice from the guy who's working with the terrorists" goes, Mary, you do recall which President it was that invited both Gerry Adams and Yassir Arafat over for lunch?

Yep, you guessed it: Bill Clinton.

You know who President Logan is supposed to resemble. Think about it.

- Pointy nose.

- Thinning hair, combed straight back.

- Paranoid, indecisive, and reckless.

- Two-syllable, five-letter name, ending in "N."

- Greets crowds with an awkward, stiff-armed, fingers-splayed gesture.

- Residential compound in California.

It's obviously a lefty caricature of Nixon, for cryin' out loud, and the show suffers for that political potshot from the writers/producers/whoever. The politics, the obsession with signing historic accords, and the constant second-guessing based on perceptions of public opinion are hardly hallmarks of Republican Presidential administrations these days.

Do you remember which president had a high-level Soviet spy advising him at Yalta, and to let China fall to the communists?

(The spy appeared before a congressional committee and would have perhaps gotten away except for Congressman Nixon.)

I knew the people on this blog were thin-skinned, but the responses to my posting about the president on 24 were beyond the pale, and tell me you know little if anything about the writers and producers in Hollywood.

Most of them were small children or not even alive during Nixon's administration and anyone who knows anything about Carter (whether you liked him or not), knows that he was a fanatical micro manager.

And, if you actually think ths guy is supposed to be Clinton, well, that would be no more than wishful thinking.

This guy is Bush. Deal with it.

Mary, how about it's no one because it's a TV show?

That's why liberals never get it, every show has to preach the liberal mantra - there has to be some potshot at Republicans. If it's not there and they like the show, they make one up.

The show is basically apolitical. Every side can find something to agree with or argue against.

Honestly, if they were going to make it Bush (or Clinton, Nixon or Carter) they would have made it more obvious. 24 isn't a Animal Farm-type allegory, despite anyone's attempts to make it that.

This guy is Bush. Deal with it.

Is not. It's me!

Aaron,
Oh, because it's a TV show..."it's no one"??

Right.

All of the characters we see on TV are actually based on "no one."

They're all just make believe characters, conjured up in the writer's mind because the writers don't know any "real" people.

Like I said: Thin-skinned conservatives can sure dish it out, but boy, when they just don't like people presenting opinions with which they do not agree.

Like I said: Thin-skinned conservatives can sure dish it out, but boy, when they just don't like people presenting opinions with which they do not agree.

This is actually partially true - we generally only like it when people bring a fact-based analysis to the discussion. If it's just your opinion, we're not that interested.