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January 13, 2006
Satanic Vampire Running For Minn. Governor"Politics is a cut-throat business," said Jonathan "The Impaler" Sharkey, who said he plans to announce his bid for governor on the ticket of the Vampyres, Witches and Pagans Party. Okay, that's not going to fly with conservatives, obviously. But he does tempt us back with his other positions: However, he claims to respect all religions and if elected, will post "everything from the Ten Commandments to the Wicca Reed" in government buildings. Nice. It's only political outsiders that dare to introduce innovative solutions like this into the public debate. But is he really a vampire? Sharkey told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he's a vampire "just like you see in the movies and TV." Family values. I think maybe we can get behind this guy. Apparently he's also considering a run for president, as he's formed a PAC called The Impaler For President Committee-- 2008." And if you need further convincing, check out his website. Honesty is very seldom heard nowadays, especially from a politician. So, I am going to break from political tradition. My name is Jonathon “The Impaler” Sharkey, Ph.D., L.D.D.D. I am a Satanic Dark Priest, Sanguinarian Vampyre and a Hecate Witch. Oh, wait, a Sanguinarian Vampyre? I don't like those. I prefer Nosferatuan Vampyres. My Magikal Path name is: Lord Ares. I have thirty hit dice. I despise and hate the Christian God the Father. He is my enemy. I'm amused that even a Lucifer-worshipping vampire, the moment he becomes a politician, feels the need to try, rather clumsily, to pander to the religious right. Now that's clout, baby.
Jonathan "The Impaler" Sharkey My guarantee to you, the voter: I shall bathe in the blood of the Children of Babylon! By the way: Everyone realizes, I trust, that while he apparently can shell out $100 for a dumb-looking "vampyre" sword, he dresses in a friggin' throw-carpet. That's what all the "Magikal Path Sanguinarian Vampyre Dark Lords" are wearing these days. Discount remnant floor coverings. Thanks to SWOOD. Evil, But Not Bad Evil: Mrs. Peel catches-- He admits to being evil, but says he will use his evil, vampiric nature to protect the innocent and impale terrorists. I guess that's lawful evil. By the way: it's "vampYric." Or maybe it's "vampyryc." Who knows. posted by Ace at 12:51 PM
CommentsHe cannot win. Minnesotian will only vote for Reptilloid Space Vampires. Posted by: Red Jode on January 13, 2006 12:56 PM
Good Lord. He's also a pro boxer and pro wrestler. And he slept with his half-sister. I found those nuggets while trying to find out just what his Ph.D. is in... Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 12:56 PM
So what the Jewish God the Father is Ok with him? And what's with this joint Lucifer-Hecate worship crap. Posted by: Iblis on January 13, 2006 12:57 PM
Jeez, Ace. Picture big enough? Aw hell, enlarge it some more. I love scrolling. Posted by: Dogstar on January 13, 2006 12:58 PM
Well, is he *really* that much worse than Ventura? Posted by: zetetic on January 13, 2006 12:59 PM
Nicely landscaped home he's got there. This fellow needs to trade his sword for a weed whacker. Posted by: spongeworthy on January 13, 2006 01:01 PM
So what? In Ohio we elected a Zombie to the governorship. Posted by: Mark @ A Marble Desk on January 13, 2006 01:01 PM
"I sink my fangs into the neck of my donor ... and drink their blood," he said, adding that his donor is his wife, Julie. Translation: I give my wife hickeys. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 01:01 PM
He also claims to have been friends with Jeb and George W. Bush, who helped him try to get his 3rd wife off drugs. (I think the donor is his 4th.) He admits to being evil, but says he will use his evil, vampiric nature to protect the innocent and impale terrorists. I guess that's lawful evil. The real question is, what form of impalement will he use? Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 01:03 PM
Disturbingly, Jonathan Sharkey had a bit part in the movie Predator. He was one of the army guys in a helicopter during the last 2 minutes of the film. Though his hair was *much* shorter and, obviously, he wasn't brandishing a sword or wearing a carpet on his shoulders . Posted by: BumperStickerist on January 13, 2006 01:03 PM
I hope you people realize what's at stake here. Posted by: Brian B on January 13, 2006 01:04 PM
On the one hand, I disapprove of his "God-hating" stance, but on the other hand, I like his "tough on crime" stance. So I'm pretty conflicted. Posted by: Sobek on January 13, 2006 01:06 PM
He certainly ain't running on Jonathan "The Gardener" Sharkey Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 01:06 PM
I like the other shot of him in the carpet, when he has it draped over his head a la Anakin. Go to the "Jonathon's DarkSide" page for a pleasant little story about that. Nice one, Brian! Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 01:08 PM
He looks like Will Patton from Armageddon and Remember the Titans. Posted by: IreneFingIrene on January 13, 2006 01:11 PM
Please, don't pay any attention to Minnesota Politics. This is embarrassing. Posted by: Master of None on January 13, 2006 01:12 PM
I dunno. If the liberals got their panties all in a wad over some wiretapping, can you imagine how apeshit they'll go if he starts impaling people in front of the capital building? Hell, I hope he wins, just so I can see it. Posted by: Doug F on January 13, 2006 01:12 PM
There's nothing about this guy's political agenda that I don't like! Well, there's that whole "I hate God" thing, but I'm an atheist, so it amounts to little more than "I hate...lamp. I hate...chair." There is the little matter of his obvious insanity, but we Minnesotans have elected Jesse Ventura as governor, and the DFL love-in for Al Franken is just beginning -- so there's ample precedent. Still, I'm gonna have to give this guy a pass. Anybody who spells vampire with a "y" is just a grandstanding tool. Still, that whole "impale the child molesters" plank of his election platform has got this voter excited for Election '06! Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 01:12 PM
I hope you people realize what's at stake here. Its a little known fact that when the Revolution comes, punsters will be the frist to die. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 01:13 PM
d'oh! First to die. Posted by: on January 13, 2006 01:14 PM
Posted by: scott on January 13, 2006 01:16 PM
Waitaminute. Isnt that a picture of him standing outside in broad daylight? What the fuck kinda vampire is that? If im going to vote for a vampire, im going to vote for a vampire who shares my traditional Transylvanian values. Fear of sunlight, hatred of God the Father, and a solid pledge to vote no on the Undeath Tax. Posted by: Amish of the Night on January 13, 2006 01:17 PM
Ace, my friend, you do not have the high ground when it comes to spelling. Exhibit A: "Heathly." Anyway, I'm playing a lawful good werewolf lord in my next campaign. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 01:19 PM
Monty says: Well, there's that whole "I hate God" thing, but I'm an atheist, so it amounts to little more than "I hate...lamp. I hate...chair. Wow, I had no idea that lamps and chairs were also figments of my imagination created to give my weak mind a sense of peace and understanding. I'd better get up immediately, before my mind stops producing this chair. I'd hate to fall in the floor...wait. Do floors exist? All that said, I'd vote for him and help fund the impaling poles.. Posted by: Daisy on January 13, 2006 01:21 PM
But seriously, thanks for the link. I'm kicking a lot of blog-ass today. Even Allah hat-tipped me over at Link Mecca. Beating Allah to a story, especially one that works with the "Singularity!" angle, is like...uh...like a germ managing to get through Monk's defenses and give him a cold. (Feel free to post better comparisons so I can steal them for future use.) Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 01:26 PM
I can't get over his face. That's the face of a pastor or a ceo sitting on a goth-devil worship-wierdofreak's shoulders.
Posted by: loge on January 13, 2006 01:26 PM
Waitaminute. Isnt that a picture of him standing outside in broad daylight? What the fuck kinda vampire is that? It's just a really powerful flash. Although, now that you mention it, vampires don't show up in mirrors, so why would he show up in a photo? Posted by: John on January 13, 2006 01:28 PM
Bat's wings in every pot, and a coffin in every garage! Posted by: Sue Dohnim on January 13, 2006 01:29 PM
I'm sure Chertoff will be happy to welcome other Satanic Vampires to politics. Hopefully, this ones cronies... I meant henchmen aren't as inept. Posted by: Larry the Urbanite on January 13, 2006 01:30 PM
Mrs. Peel -- You've got an interesting blog. Enough science to be interesting but not enough to be geeky. I'll be a regular if you don't mind. Posted by: Master of None on January 13, 2006 01:31 PM
I hate...chair. I hate...lamp. Daisy, I was attempting to get off a little Brick Tamlin-style joke here. Obviously my attempt has failed. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 01:31 PM
Little known fact about Jon Sharkey: Dubs his home "Ravynloft." Posted by: John on January 13, 2006 01:31 PM
Hey, he's got the Kos vote locked up, too! Upon becoming President I will immediately recall ALL servicemen and women from combat areas around the world. Additionally, I will have President George W. Bush charged and tried for the murders of every American that has been killed in Iraq as a result of him sending them into War. Upon being convicted, I think everyone knows what his punishment will be. Certified whack-job, but entertaining as all heck. Posted by: Slublog on January 13, 2006 01:32 PM
Although, now that you mention it, vampires don't show up in mirrors, so why would he show up in a photo?
Posted by: Bella LuAmish on January 13, 2006 01:34 PM
"Lightning Bolt! Lightning Bolt!" Posted by: Eric J on January 13, 2006 01:35 PM
..and I was just thinking: why would a real vampire need a crappy hobby-shop sword? You'd think that with a vampire's legendary strength, shape-changing abilities, and mind power, a sword would be more of a hindrance than a help. And frankly, now that I ponder upon it a bit more, I can't see how a vampire would really groove on Minnesota anyway -- what blood our Democrat-infested county and town councils don't squeeze out of us, the mosquitoes take. Maybe we can ship this nutter over to Ann Arbor. They'd elect him in a nanosecond, in the name of diversity. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 01:37 PM
Are you freakin' kidding me. Compared to most Minnesota 3rd party candidates, this dude is William F. Buckley. The only downsides for me is his carpet robe and his pussy little sword. Look at that cheap piece of crap. It's basically a recycled car bumper pounded into a sword by some Pakistani villager and sold for 19.95 at the local Spencer's Gifts. Whak kind of a REAL vampyre would use a sword with those pussy ribs on the back end of the blade? What, is it "ribbed, for HER pleasure"? Serrations would be tolerable, but those freakin' things serve no practical purpose other than telling observers "I'm a 12th level dumbass". In the end, it makes no difference. Squareheads don't let us Iowans vote in their elections, but if they did, I'd vote this loser in LIKE A VIKING....Just to punish them for hoarding all the walleyes. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 01:37 PM
Sorry Monty... *hangs head in shame* Posted by: Daisy on January 13, 2006 01:37 PM
I once played Lucy in the play "Dracula" and I can tell you that the neck sucking is highly overrated and the capes (or carpets as the case may be) serve to cover up some serious love (hate?) handles. Vampires aren't too active unless transformed into flying bats. When they aren't trying to stalk down some unsuspecting bimbo, they just lounge around in the dark all day. WAITAMINUTE! That's Monty!!!! ;-) Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on January 13, 2006 01:40 PM
(He was kidding, I think) Posted by: Jake on January 13, 2006 01:40 PM
I wish it was a carpet...my wood floors are getting scratched... Posted by: Asher on January 13, 2006 01:45 PM
Master of None, please do! You know, Monty makes an excellent point. I didn't bother buying a sword for my 11th level werewolf lord paladin, because when she transforms, she gets two claws and a bite as a full attack action. I did buy her a lance, though, because when she is mounted (on her dire wolf), she'll probably remain in human form to fight. I thought about getting the Axiomatic enchantment on the lance, so it would be imbued with the power of law just like Chuck Norris's legs, but I decided Holy would be more useful since our DM really likes to give us undead enemies. Uh-oh...I may have just lost Master of None as a reader with that geek-out. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 01:47 PM
When they aren't trying to stalk down some unsuspecting bimbo, they just lounge around in the dark all day. I'm too lazy to be a good vampire. I'm more of a Mephistopheles; I lure the innocent into my evil schemes just to get a good belly-laugh out of it. (Plus, you know, some of those schemes take a lot of elbow-grease, and getting some chump to do all the heavy lifting takes the strain off of me. Like I said: I'm a lazy lazy man.) Plus I just can't manage that Eurotrash vibe that all the cool vampires put out to reel in the chicks. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 01:51 PM
From his website: Lets see, that's 3 ex-wives and a fiancee that shot or stabbed him, this guy has it all! Posted by: scott on January 13, 2006 02:00 PM
He's just your run-of-the-mill fake centrist. His platform takes the religious and anti-war planks from the Democrat platform and the family values and anti-crime planks from the Republicans. We all know his anti-crime impalement proposals would get shot down by the Dems anyway, because the death penalty is not a deterrent.™ Even if he did manage to squeak impalement by them, they'd load it down with health and environmental regulations until it was practically impossible to carry out. "Oh, I'm sorry Mr. Executioner sir, the law says you must use each impaling pole only once. You know, sanitary conditions and all, wouldn't want the executed to get an infection from a dirty pole." You think that's a joke, but don't they use sterile needles and disinfectant skin swabs when they lethally inject someone today? Posted by: Sue Dohnim on January 13, 2006 02:07 PM
Holy cow. That celtic knot throw he's wearing? I have the exact same one in green. I don't wear mine, tho. Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 02:15 PM
On the "Dark Side" section on his website, he explains that he began following Lucifer and hating God the Father when his grandmother died. I'm tempted to throw out a few "sick and disgusting remarks" in keeping with yesterday's post about the guy that got sued for that sort of thing, but I don't want to end up on the end of an impaling pole. Not for that, at least. Posted by: Phinn on January 13, 2006 02:17 PM
This is, like, the greatest post of all time. OK, 2006 at least. In somewhat unrelated news, "Mrs. Peel" is pretty hot... Posted by: someone on January 13, 2006 02:35 PM
but I decided Holy would be more useful since our DM really likes to give us undead enemies HOLY COW an uber-geekette-Aggie. that's kinda hot actually. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 02:37 PM
Thanks, someone and Dave. Tomorrow night, I'm going to post a pic with some skin. It's all part of my plan to get crazy blog-money through traffic-whoring. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 02:42 PM
Remember the SNL skit "Goth Talk"? This guy Jonathan is also asking for public humiliation for being a dork. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 02:43 PM
He reminds me of Wednesday from the Addams Family. Posted by: scott on January 13, 2006 02:44 PM
I wonder if this guy would take human sacrifices in lieu of monetary donations? Also, I wonder what the Hell is his Ph. D. in, anyway? I mean, do you have to go to Satanic Seminary to become a Satanic Priest? Posted by: Johnny GetShotALot on January 13, 2006 02:50 PM
We have a drummer that looks an awful lot like Sharkey. I sent the link to the band members and we've been yahooing about it all day. Greg's yard looks like Sharkey's too. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 02:51 PM
I'm going to post a pic with some skin. I believe I'm going to need some clarification on this. How much skin? On what part of the body shall said skin be revealed? Is it something that woudl get you in trouble if you did it, say, in a bar? How big a picture? And will it be a picture of you, or some grotesquely hideous internet doxie? (After which you would laugh and say, "I didn't say the picture was going to be of me! Neener!") I've been burned before. I want details. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 02:54 PM
"I'm going to post a pic with some skin." Do that and I'll forget about all of that D&D stuff you posted earlier. Posted by: Master of None on January 13, 2006 03:02 PM
He had me at Hecate Witch. Posted by: harp on January 13, 2006 03:03 PM
I'm going to post a pic with some skin. I hope there are no more work crunches coming up - last night with Feisty and the seaweed was disastrous. Now the young sylph threatens a new productivity-thrashing strategem. Think of the trade deficit, woman! Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 03:10 PM
Holy cow. That celtic knot throw he's wearing? I have the exact same one in green. I don't wear mine, tho. huh. I just thought it was a bath towel. I have a one like that - I think I got it at WalMart Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 03:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that I turned this guy down in a bar in Anoka one night . . . or maybe it was somebody else trying to bite my neck, the details are a tad blurry. Either way, I think that I speak for most Minnesotans if you could just ignore the politics here . . . thanks. Posted by: spurringirl on January 13, 2006 03:18 PM
Whaddya mean, he's going to use his "evil" to do good things? What a chump. You know, in the big Good vs. Evil Ultimate Cage Match, he's going to lose either way. If the satanists win, Mr. Sharkey, not being a real satanist but only a cartoon character, will be boiled alive in a stew consisting of his own blood and entrails. On the other hand, if Jesus' Father, whom Sharkey has publically stated he hates, wins (and I think this far more likely), then he'll spend an eternity in hell. Either way, his future is grim. Posted by: OregonMuse on January 13, 2006 03:29 PM
Posted by: spurringirl on January 13, 2006 03:18 PM I'm pretty sure that I turned this guy down in a bar in Anoka one night . . . Turned him down for who? Spurwing Plover? Because that is what I think of when I see your name. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 03:29 PM
On the sleeping with his half-sister thing... well if she's hot, that's no big deal. Posted by: Otho Laurence on January 13, 2006 03:31 PM
From the linked article: MINNEAPOLIS voters, who eight years ago elected a former professional wrestler as their governor, may find a self-proclaimed vampire on the ballot for the office this year. Um, that would be Minnesota voters, not just Minneapolis voters. Good thing, too - the outstate and exurbian voters are the only thing keeping the state from sinking into a blue hell. Disturbingly, Jonathan Sharkey had a bit part in the movie Predator. Which would make him the third actor from that movie (after Ventura and Ahnuld) to be elected governor of a state, and the second for Minnesota. Small world, Hollywood. Has Sharkey taken any position on state funding for new stadiums for the Twins and Vikings? Those have been debated for about ten years now and have gone nowhere, but the issue refuses to die. If he promises to finally put an end to it one way or the other (I'm past caring how at this point), that's a big plus in his column. Posted by: Joshua on January 13, 2006 03:39 PM
Which would make him the third actor from that movie (after Ventura and Ahnuld) to be elected governor of a state, and the second for Minnesota. That's 'cuz filming Predator turned them all into "gawdamn sexual tyranosauruses." Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 03:45 PM
Speaking of spurwing, check out Mrs. Peel's post about him. It's a riot. Be sure to read the comment's too. Posted by: Jordan on January 13, 2006 03:47 PM
I still think that the movie of The Running Man is the most trivia-cool movie ever, because it has a scene where two future governors are kicking the shit out of each other (Ventura vs Arnold). Both actors were in Predator also, but did not beat the tar out of each other. Only in America, baby. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 03:50 PM
I still think that the movie of The Running Man is the most trivia-cool movie ever, I met the Opera-Guy (Erland Van Lidth De Jeude) when I was a freshman - he had graduated the previous year. He was a 300 lb wrestler in college, but he had also acted and sung (that was really his voice in the movie) in musicals throughout his 4 years. He was playedbad-ass brutes in Stir Crazy and The Wanderers. Not bad for an opera-singing geek from MIT. Unfortunately he died of heart disease in his early 40s. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 04:02 PM
I think that this thread would be an appropriate place for me to mention that if I ever meet any of you in person, I intend to taunt you mercilessly, give you a wedgie, and take your lunch money. That's all. Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 04:04 PM
Sorry, Monty. You'll just have to wait. I will tell you, though, that the picture does show me. This is what we in the industry call a "teaser," because by the time the pic goes up, y'all's anticipation will have been building for a good 30 hours. Possibly more, because I have a planned Internet outage tomorrow that might not be resolved as quickly as I am hoping. Otho, he said his half-sister was "hott." I assume the extra T is an intensifier. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 04:15 PM
I think that this thread would be an appropriate place for me to mention that if I ever meet any of you in person, I intend to taunt you mercilessly, give you a wedgie, and take your lunch money. Put up a pic, tough guy. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 04:19 PM
Put up a pic, tough guy. I don't know. I feel kinduv weird putting my picture up on the internet, to be honest. It's cool that others did, though. (By the way, nice family, Geoff, seriously.) But your old pal Sandy might be too cowardly. Some of the stuff I've said in our flame war threads could be career-limiting. :) Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 04:24 PM
I will tell you, though, that the picture does show me. You are about to become Michael's newest bestest friend. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 04:26 PM
You are about to become Michael's newest bestest friend. But only if you put up a hi-res. Michael does have standards, after all. Posted by: Slublog on January 13, 2006 04:29 PM
If any of the AoSHQ ladies were my half or even full sister and were offering, I wouldn't refuse. Posted by: Otho Laurence on January 13, 2006 04:32 PM
It's all part of my plan to get crazy blog-money through traffic-whoring. Your plan sure as hell earned you a bookmark on my browser. When are you going to fill in your Profile with titillating details about your wanton social life? Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 04:40 PM
Michael does have standards, after all. No, I don't. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 04:42 PM
Wanton social life? You mean when my elf wizard had a thing for Shadow Moon, the handsome elf archer NPC? Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 04:53 PM
Wanton social life? You mean when my elf wizard had a thing for Shadow Moon, the handsome elf archer NPC? Holy crap, I think you may have just outgeeked most of the guys on this site. And that is a serious accomplishment. Posted by: Slublog on January 13, 2006 04:55 PM
Otho Laurence: What I coincidence. I feel exactly the same way! If any of the AoSHQ ladies were your sister, I wouldn't refuse, either. Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 05:08 PM
Well, I was kidding, if that helps. To briefly return to the original topic, I just noticed that in the "Jonathon's Dark Side" page, he lists three examples, quote, "from history," of people turning to the Dark Side, and his third is Anakin Skywalker. I think that says it all. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 05:10 PM
Sandy, if any of the AOSHQ ladies have a pulse, you wouldn't refuse. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 05:11 PM
Well, he probably won't get elected, but at least Spinal Tap has found their next drummer! Posted by: on January 13, 2006 05:19 PM
Touche, Michael. (By the way, thanks for pointing out an important distinction between my low standards and Monty's even lower standards. Although you didn't mention him by name, it was understood.) Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 05:22 PM
"Well, he probably won't get elected, but at least Spinal Tap has found their next drummer!" I don't think he qualifies. Vampires = undead. Don't Spinal Tap drummers have to be able to die? Posted by: steve_in_hb on January 13, 2006 05:23 PM
Monty's even lower standards I prefer to think of it as a "situationally flexible" moral outlook. Posted by: Monty on January 13, 2006 05:26 PM
This is usually where spurwing pops in and says something like: the SUPERFRENDS had an enemy called DARKSEID Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 05:30 PM
Re: Spinal Tap Drummers I don't think they have to be able to die necessarily, just burst into flames spontaneously. Or choke to death on their own vomit. Wait, it wasn't his vomit. And he died. nevermind Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 05:35 PM
Well, I was kidding, if that helps. Geekiness is a plus on this site. Or were you kidding about the picture? Because if you were, that may just ruin some weekends. Posted by: Slublog on January 13, 2006 05:39 PM
I've lurked here long enough to know geekiness is a plus, but there's always a threshold of geekiness that just shouldn't be crossed. Of course, Ace vaulted over it with his D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates, my second favorite post ever, so I suppose I shouldn't be worried. Y'all's weekends are safe, assuming I resolve my planned Internet outage in as timely of a fashion as I anticipate. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 05:49 PM
I'm thinking maybe I should run for office sometime. If I were in charge, I'd put a large tax on the sale of dice with more than six sides. Kinduv like a cigarette or alcohol tax, only with added spite. Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 05:57 PM
So we get to keep our d4s? Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 06:03 PM
Speaking for real vampire witch satanists, I'd like to point out that this guy is a tool. Posted by: realvampirewitchsatanist on January 13, 2006 06:07 PM
He strikes me as the kind of guy who can flash a smile, come up with a nice conversation, and at the end of the day, you're draining the food. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 06:21 PM
Speaking of dice, I assume you geeks have all seen this? Posted by: someone on January 13, 2006 07:16 PM
I'm thinking maybe I should run for office sometime. Get some tips from Brewfan. I'll bet all dice have six sides in his town. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 07:33 PM
I'll bet all dice have six sides in his town. No dice here. Pull tabs, on the other hand...
Posted by: BrewFan on January 13, 2006 07:41 PM
Its over. I used to be pro-vampire, but this idiot's sub-moronic countenance will forever haunt and ruin my enjoyment of a good Dracula flick. I'm sure you zombie lovers felt the same way during Al Gore's candidacy. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 07:56 PM
Brew, did you get my email? Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 08:07 PM
Where is Spurwing? Hope the bird flu didn't catch up to him. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 08:19 PM
/snicker Shawn. You can imitate but never duplicate the Spurwing, Bart. I'm tellin ya', the man (droid?, kid?, entity?) is pure genius. Words to live by indeed. Posted by: doc on January 13, 2006 08:30 PM
There is no way Spurwing Plover is a kid. He knows too many things that somebody under the age of about 30 almost certainly wouldn't know. Posted by: sandy burger on January 13, 2006 09:02 PM
I personally think he's a random sentence generator. I could almost code him myself (I couldn't write the sentence generator part, but I could probably write the algorithms to identify the keywords of the post and cross-correlate with right-wing talking points, and then randomly misspell words in the generated sentence). I wish the person who coded him would develop an SP AIM bot. That would rock. And I take umbrage at Sandy's ageism. Severe umbrage. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 09:12 PM
I recall one post where spurwing (people, people, people, get it right - NEVER capitalize the name) broke the fourth wall with something like "do you know how hot it is in this spurwing plover costume?" I swear, this topic could fuel a whole fistfull of dissertations. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 09:17 PM
I recall one post where spurwing (people, people, people, get it right - NEVER capitalize the name) broke the fourth wall with something like "do you know how hot it is in this spurwing plover costume?" You're kidding. I wish I had read that post. Damnit I love the wit and wisdom of spurwing. The more I read, the smarter he/she/it seems. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 09:35 PM
Could a random sentence generator know all the lyrics to England Swings? And spurwing plover is the go to guy for reviews of big ape movies. Personally, I think of spurwing plover as a Lily of the Field. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 09:35 PM
Sure, it could know lyrics. What it knows depends on what you program into it. It would be really easy to write an algorithm to display lyrics of a given song if the appropriate keywords are found in the post. (Someone ask me about the completely brilliant C++ code I wrote to display The Twelve Days of Christmas, pretty please? It was a stroke of genius so bold that I'm still proud of it 5 years and several programming languages later.) What I wonder is whether the guy who wrote the generator visits sites to see what people are saying about it. If he does, he must laugh so hard. The other big reason I think sp is a generator is, well, because I question the timing. He'll have posts one or two minutes apart on threads that are fairly widely spaced on AOSHQ. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 09:49 PM
From my research, I place spurwing's date of birth circa 1958. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 09:52 PM
If a randnm genrator could make some coMments it owuld say HOOKM horns to AGGIES Posted by: Spurwing Plover in Texas on January 13, 2006 09:54 PM
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh spurwing plover R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. As Tom Hanks once said, "that's all I've got to say about that." Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 09:56 PM
I'm wondering if PLV would tell Sharkey to suck his dick? Posted by: BrewFan on January 13, 2006 09:56 PM
Mrs. Peel is a programmer too? [swooning] Posted by: BrewFan on January 13, 2006 09:59 PM
I hope he doesn't get pissed off with us talking about him this way. I don't want to see bird feathers all over the place. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 09:59 PM
huh. I just thought it was a bath towel. I have a one like that - I think I got it at WalMart No, that's not a bath towel TX Dave, it's too big and too thin. Replace the **** in the following link with "e-bay" and leave out the dash... http://cgi.****.com/CELTIC-WALL-TAPESTRY-BEDSPREAD-THROW-red-ROUND-KNOT_W0QQitemZ7725785979QQcategoryZ13739QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem ...and you'll see a picture of a similar one. Ace's robo-censor wouldn't let me post the link directly. We have several of them. We mainly use them at SCA events to cover up items that aren't historically accurate (like beer coolers). Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 10:00 PM
If one takes out God the Father, won't we left with a Biunity? Honestly, the anti-God-ism of many neo-pagans and modern "witches" is quite annoying. It's so hypocritical and juvenile. Even though I passed through a neo-pagan phase, I never hated God. Is obsessing about Goddess any better than obsessing about God? In the neo-pagan framework, aren't both unbalanced? Doesn't neo-paganism teach balance between opposites, thereby making our dear vampyre somewhat inconsistent? Doesn't neo-paganism, furthermore, teach tolerance and acceptance? Why should one tolerate and accept another's worship of Hekate, Shiva, Lucifer, and Amaterasu-oo-mi-kami but not "God the Father"? At least God the Father has living religions, unlike the faux reconstructed cults around long-dead deities. In any case, why worship deities of long-dead civilizations? It's obvious that those deities are powerless, else their civilizations would still survive. Plus, God the Father never demanded human sacrifices, the same which cannot be said about certain Hindu and ancient Latin American (and, debatedly, Celtic) deities or systems. As "tolerant" and "open-minded" as they portray themselves to be, they are so bitterly intolerant and close-minded when it comes to certain traditional religions, especially Christianity. Actually, they can be bitterly intolerant and close-minded against anything that dares challenge their beliefs and practices. (Which can sometimes get quite amusing - "witch wars" can be on anything as trivial as the direction one goes around in the circle to as major as schisms, leadership battles, and the like. Despite claiming to be different from mainstream religions, they sure share a lot of their faults and tendencies - including the erection and dissemination of false histories and "scientific" theories.) Do I have a beef with them. Hmmmmm. Maybe. ;-) Impaling people is so mid-1400s. I think the guillotine is far more entertaining and effective. Nothing beats a good injection, though. Posted by: Muslihoon on January 13, 2006 10:16 PM
I swear I saw a throw rug looked just like it. Got the boxy corner pattern... Chinese I think. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 10:20 PM
Muslihoon makes me swoon. And spurwing will hopefully run against the Hildebeast in '08. Even if he doesn't, I will compile his knowledge in a tome and bury it in the sands of eternity, waiting for its rediscovery millenia from now when it can be understood and appreciated. Posted by: Sue Dohnim on January 13, 2006 10:23 PM
Wow, Muslihoon, you've got some incorrect issues with Wicca and paganism. Although Wiccans do tend to be anti-Christian, that's changing over time. It's just a reaction against the religion that many of them came from - like your reaction to Islam. As more people are born into Wicca, that anger is dissipating. There are a few of us conservative Wiccans who are tolerant and respectful of Christianity - I even consider myself part of the religious right. Other than that, very few Wiccans worship only a goddess, without a god, and I've never heard of anyone arguing over which way the circle goes - rules about circle creation/uncreation are pretty much set in stone. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 10:28 PM
I personally think he's a random sentence generator. I'm convinced he's quite real. And maybe it's me, but he seems to be getting pithier. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 10:31 PM
Also, only the morons within Wicca lie about our history. We know that we are a reconstructed religion based (loosely) on everything from a few known remnants of Celtic paganism, to spiritualism, to Qabbalic mysticism. Most witches I've known are simply trying to discover and reorganize whatever aspects of European paganism that we can gleen from history. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 10:32 PM
My quest for the exclusive interview with the elusive spurwing plover is proving to be a daunting task; insurmountable, perhaps. My email attempts are failing, yet the failure notice gives me hope. :
Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 10:35 PM
"I swear I saw a throw rug looked just like it. Got the boxy corner pattern... Chinese I think." I wouldn't be surprised. Celtic patterns are getting really popular. Vampire Man's outfit wouldn't make a good rug, tho, 'cause it's so thin you an see through it. They make crappy bedspreads, too, but they look cool (in some pagan college dorm room theme). Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 10:46 PM
I recall one post where spurwing (people, people, people, get it right - NEVER capitalize the name) broke the fourth wall with something like "do you know how hot it is in this spurwing plover costume?" And I get no respect for blogging in my Batman costume. None. Nada. Y'know, that cape can get pretty warm too. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 10:54 PM
This Impaler guy is a loser and he's starting to bug me. He's a grown man, for pete's sake! I can well imagine what is outside the frame of that photo: A little kid on a Big Wheel, an above-ground pool, and a 1989 Chevy Corsica with a Domino's Pizza sign tied to the roof. Fecking vampire, my ass. Back to spurwing -- We can also deduce that he does not open his mailbox on a regular basis, or even at all. That is in line with the oblivious nature of his charcter. He may not even know he has a mailbox. If anyone has any ideas on how to proceed from here, I'm all ears. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 10:55 PM
waiting for its rediscovery millenia from now when it can be understood and appreciated LOOK upon my werks and despAIR Posted by: spurwing goober in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:01 PM
Damn, I was going to email him/it. I guess I'll just have to make up my own email exchange, in which CHIKWINS will feature heavily, instead. Nice Oz reference, Dave. And Brew - no need to swoon. I merely have beginner-level experience in a handful of languages, nothing fancy. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 11:07 PM
Well, for a start, spurwing plover seems to be some sort of Dutch indy band: http://voorraad.hemisphere.nl/Lul%20Spurwing%20Plover%207.htm Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:08 PM
Suggest a post you think he'd respond to, Bart, and maybe I can do it. I like 'Who's hotter, Betty or Veronica?' Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:09 PM
If anyone has any ideas on how to proceed from here, I'm all ears. I think you'd better reconcile yourself to appreciating the inscrutability that is spurwing from afar. Plus I suspect he's a fractal creature: the deeper you delve for answers, the more imponderably spurwing he is. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:11 PM
Or, spurwing plover could be some kind of bird: * Masked lapwing (Spurwing plover) Vanellus miles novaehollandiae Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:11 PM
adolfo: Didn't I give you an award in the Cool Facts About Dick Cheney Contest? As a life-long Lutheran, it's comforting for me to know that you are a Wiccan on the "religious right." Everybody: While we are singing the praises of spurwing as our favorite troll, may I make a request? WILL EVERYBODY PLEASE STOP TALKING TO PLV? THESE ARE THE MOST BORING FUCKING THREADS I HAVE SEEN HERE! JUST LEAVE HIM THE FUCK ALONE! Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 11:11 PM
I like 'Who's hotter, Betty or Veronica? which one of them has a hump? Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:13 PM
You're not the boss of me. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:13 PM
Bart, I had the same response when I tried to email SP. adolfo velasquez - I stand corrected. It has been some time since I hung out with the neo-pagan crowd. And I do understand their reaction against the religion they left (although I wonder if neo-pagans who were Jews or Muslims or Buddhists would feel the same way). It is true that I disliked Islam when I left it, although I dislike it now for quite different reasons. (I blame Qutb, Mawdudi, and other Islamic scholars.) I mentioned direction within a circle because some adamantly believe that going in the wrong direction - widdershins rather than deosil - would attract negative energy or cause the energy that is built up to be dissipated, and is therefore fundamentally wrong. Others believe it doesn't matter. I suppose some of the issues that got me worked up were less to do with Wicca and more to do with the general magic(k)al community. Another issue of great debate is the acceptability of Crowleyism - one organization I belonged to adamantly rejected Crowleyism to the point that one could not be a Crowleyist/Thelemite and a member of the organization at the same time. Furthermore, one had to have rejected Crowleyism before joining, if one was a Crowleyist before. Some love him passionately, others hate him with equal passion. I find both to be amusing. I still take issue with certain attitudes I have found to be common - although the trend may be different now - that make them similar to, rather than different from as they claim, mainstream religions. (Which, in my books, can be a good thing: from a fringe movement, neo-paganism is slowly drifting into the mainstream, which will give it structures and institutions that will help it survive.) Just to clarify, I believe "Wicca" to be a denomination, as it were, of neo-paganism, one which is different from, say, Dianic witchcraft, Stregheria, Kemetic Orthodoxy (one group I checked out), Asatru, Druidism, and other various groups. In my opinion, perhaps the best of them all are Wicca and Feri. (Afro-genic religions, such as Santeria, Lukumi, Vodun, and Candomble, belong to a separate movement, despite some attempts by neo-pagans to incorporate elements of these movements. However, certain aspects, such as possession and animal sacrifice, are unpalatable to neo-pagans.) OT: Crowley's experience in transcribing The Book of the Law, and even some attitudes regarding it, seem to mirror similar occurences in Islam (with Muhammad) and the Restoration Movement (with Joseph Smith, Jr.). I find it interesting how a group as free and anarchic as Thelemites would have a veritable book of Scripture. It seems, in the end, to be closer to the Qur'an than the Book of Mormon: although the latter has gone through a few editions, with corrections and reformatting and whatnot, both the Qur'an and The Book of the Law are said to remain in their pristine, original condition. Bothmay not be tampered with (The Book of the Law 1:36). Indeed, most copies of the latter include a copy of Crowley's handwritten manuscript (in accordance with The Book of the Law 3:47, I suppose). Anyway, adolfo, if you could please send me an email, I'd love to discuss this with you. I never thought I'd find a right-wing Wiccan around here. :-) More power to you! Blessed be. Posted by: Muslihoon on January 13, 2006 11:16 PM
Bart, you can't expect spurwing plover to check his mailbox. That's not how he rolls. Outdated conventions like punctuation, spelling, and checking your inbox are just another way to keep you under the man's thumb, and spurwing is all about charting his own path. I've got nothing. Maybe you should offer free sandwiches for interview subjects. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 11:16 PM
Posted by Michael at January 13, 2006 11:11 PM Yes, I won the 'best Cheney's penis joke' award in the Dick Cheney thread. That was quite an honor, considering all of the competition. In my search of the internet for spurwing clues, I've come across quite a few comments from the mysterious entity. It's like X Files, the mystery just keeps getting deeper. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:19 PM
Well he's strafing the threads even as we speak. spurwing? are you there? Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:20 PM
Bird sighting in the top thread. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:21 PM
At least God the Father has living religions, unlike the faux reconstructed cults around long-dead deities. In any case, why worship deities of long-dead civilizations? It's obvious that those deities are powerless, else their civilizations would still survive. Muslihoon: The Jews from Judah were thinking the same thing during the Babylonian Captivity. Fortunately, some of them were reading the words of Isaiah, and stuck it out. When a Persian king named Cyrus appeared to challenge Babylon, as predicted by Isaiah long before, they most have been laughing their asses off. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 11:22 PM
Bird sighting in the top thread. Who's got the capture bag? Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:22 PM
Don't ruin the mystery guys, think about this. Are we really sure we want to know the truth behind spurwing? Posted by: Sortelli on January 13, 2006 11:23 PM
Hey Michael, I said the EXACT same thing about Cedarford, but no one listened to me, either. The only thing that keeps people from talking to morons is their outright banning, which should happen to PLV soon if it hasn't already. Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 11:24 PM
Mrs. Peel. Likely because I am a graduate of the Texas A & M University system. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:24 PM
Posted by Muslihoon at January 13, 2006 11:16 PM How in heck did you go from Islam, through all the Crowley stuff, neo-paganism, and end up in Judaism/Christianity? You've had quite a trip. Anyway, I agree neo-pagans tend to be bigots about Christianity. Geeky asses like the Minnesota vampire don't help matters. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:24 PM
I'm telling you guys, look at the timing. Even I can't read and post as fast as he does, and I read wicked fast. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 11:25 PM
bbeck, is mocking it the same as talking to it? cause if true I'll drop that like a used rubber you'll pardon the vernacular... Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:26 PM
I think he just reads the headlines, which is why trying to catch him in the comments never works. He's obviously typing frenetically, and pausing for word choice or sentence structure is not an issue. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:27 PM
Ooh, I feel like one of those strom chasers. Laura, he's attracted to, how should I say it, less heady material. He likes flying cars, spaceships, old tv shows and characters, movies, monsters, and birds. Spurwing is definitley a birder. If we can find a story about a bird or birds, he'd be all over it. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:28 PM
OK, so this is the AOSHQ Friday Night Crazy Thread™ for all of us with nothing better to do. Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 11:29 PM
Wheres my garlic? wheres my holy water? wheres my wooden stake? and Mallet? i want to play VAN HELSING Posted by: spurwing plover on January 13, 2006 11:29 PM
Check out his mention of DAN RATHER in the top thread. All caps on names is a trait of another spurwing type from Right Wing News, birdzilla. Someone yesterday pointed out the comparison, I'm starting to agree with them. Plus, both names have something to do with birds. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:30 PM
And he scrolls and comments from top to bottom, it would seem. There he goes. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:31 PM
O geoff of little faith. Just last week, spurwing answered one of my questions directly. Laura saw it. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:31 PM
Hah! Vampire references. I doubt you'd get that in a political random text generator. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:32 PM
Wheres my garlic? wheres my holy water? wheres my wooden stake? and Mallet? i want to play VAN HELSING . . . and like that, poof, he's gone . . . Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:32 PM
Since he just reads the headlines, I might just put his name in there. Posted by: lauraw on January 13, 2006 11:33 PM
1. Spurwing is not a troll. He does nothing to disrupt the board and does not insult anyone. Unless, you are poultry, of course. 2. Spurwing Plover has feelings. Don't forget that. 3. I think this might draw him out. He really likes this song: England swings like a pendulum do Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 11:37 PM
you read the headlines from the NTY and CMN and you see theyre libreal OPINIONS Posted by: Spurwing Dave on January 13, 2006 11:37 PM
Very interesting. Another we have learned is that our elusive spurwing, in a day or two, will leave another comment on a thread. For istance, in this thread tomorrow, he might say, "Drakula is no match for FRANKENSTEIN." Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:37 PM
OK, I see a pattern here. I charted his recent activity and came up with the following times and threads: 11:16 in "Marmalard, Dead!" If you'll look at the order of those posts on the page, you'll see it's 1,2,3..6,7,8..11 ...and so on. He might be a bot, or he might just have his own way of making comments that doesn't really read comments before commenting himself. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 11:37 PM
Hey Michael, I said the EXACT same thing about Cedarford, but no one listened to me, either. I will NOT tolerate you putting the esteemed Cedarford, the best troll we've ever had, in the same category as PLV! Cedarford had humor, charm, subtlety, and was well-informed and intelligent. He was one of a kind. And, of course, he was a racist nut case, but we all have our little flaws. BRING BACK CEDARFORD!!!!! Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 11:39 PM
He might be a bot, or he might just have his own way of making comments that doesn't really read comments before commenting himself. Time in spurwing's universe may not conform to our own physics. I think we need to consider all theories. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:39 PM
Hunt the spurwing plover - this is exciting! Thanks, adolfo. Good point on SP. Posted by: Muslihoon on January 13, 2006 11:40 PM
Yes, shawn, excellent. I too saw spurwing's post of the old Roger Miller song. I feel like an anthropologist. Very exciting. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:40 PM
Has anybody charted his migratory patterns? Where does he go before and after he strafes the threads here? Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:42 PM
I just have a lot of difficulty believing that someone that incoherent could grasp the concept of INTERNET and leaving comments. That's another reason why I think he's a bot. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 11:42 PM
Here chickee, chickee, chickee! Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 11:42 PM
shawn is right. spurwing plover is about as far as you can get from your comon internet troll (trollus sphincterius). Trolls come up on your porch and take a dump, while the spurwing plover, like it's namesake bird, sits on a branch outside your window and sings a song. I'd hate to drive him off, but I fear that anything I say in the comments won't make any difference as to his staying or going. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 11:44 PM
That's another reason why I think he's a bot. Many months ago I did a simple search on him, since there had been a similar flurry of interest (not this large, though). I found his name and hometown in less than 10 minutes. In light of the fiasco-which-shall-not-be-named, I purged the info from my brain. But I'm convinced he's real. Posted by: geoff on January 13, 2006 11:46 PM
and unlike some retards on this site, spurwing plover knows how to close up italics. D'OH! Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 11:46 PM
He's not a fecking bot. Can't be. He really did respond to one of my questions. Spurwing is, I believe, a fifty year old man living in Southern Oregon. His favorite pastime is birds. Geoff, you're good at outing people who want to keep their privacy, what should we do? ;) Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:46 PM
3. I think this might draw him out. He really likes this song: England swings like a pendulum do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Michael on January 13, 2006 11:47 PM
Oh, I know what might get him back. Anything PETA related gets him really excited. PETA, PETA, PETA, PETA, PETA here chickee, chickee, chickee, PETA, PETA, PETA, PETA. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 11:49 PM
I will NOT tolerate you putting the esteemed Cedarford, the best troll we've ever had, in the same category as PLV! You're going to have to tolerate it because they ARE in the same category. A moron is a moron, and every time Cedarford got caught tripping over his tongue, he resorted to precisely the same rhetoric PLV does. That's fact. It's also a fact that both these trolls claimed to have served in the military when they haven't. All Cedarford had was a raging case of Don't Know When to Shut Up. He was Book-Learned and Brain-Stupid, which became painfully obvious about three sentences into ANY of his posts. He always reminded me of a line from "A Fish Called Wanda..." Otto: Apes don't read philosophy! Wanda: Yes they do, they just don't understand it. Posted by: bbeck on January 13, 2006 11:50 PM
All I know is that spurwing's posts are comforting, like chicken noodle soup. Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:50 PM
I see geoff addressed my question simultaneously as I asked it. Am I right about Oregon? If someone can find an interesting article about a plover, maybe laura can post it. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:52 PM
Michael, Cedarford was a slightly more articulate version of PLV. Look past his "Republifag" posts. No meaningful difference. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 13, 2006 11:53 PM
Ooooo, good idea, bart. Posted by: shawn on January 13, 2006 11:54 PM
So THAT'S why geoff wanted to know what my major was! Shawn, you gotta throw in Ted Kennedy and the New York Times. That'll draw him out for sure. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 11:54 PM
Here's an article on plovers, including spurwing plovers, with great pics: http://montereybay.com/creagrus/plovers.html Posted by: adolfo velasquez on January 13, 2006 11:55 PM
I know he comments all over the interwebthingy, but couldn't we here at the AoSHQ adopt spurwing plover and claim him as one of us? It could be like when Riverside, Iowa jumped up in the late 60's and pre-emptively declared themselves to be the "future birthplace of Captain James T. Kirk". Ace? Can we keep him? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE? Michael has already volunteered to feed him, and he doesn't make a mess. It would be really cool, and you KNOW we can't keep a gerbil alive & "de-sphincterified" in here with PLV around. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on January 13, 2006 11:57 PM
How does spur feel about gays? Here's something at plover.com: Rainbow Ice. It's about GLBTA issues related to figure skating. No, really. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 13, 2006 11:57 PM
Does it have monsters in it? How about cartoon references? Okay, the plover piece is a good lure. Spurwing may even want to share his knowledge; that'll keep him coming back for me and perhaps, Lord willing, enter into a discourse with the rest of us birders. Posted by: Bart on January 13, 2006 11:59 PM
Dude! It was fine in the preview. Another for good measure: Posted by: mrs. peel on January 13, 2006 11:59 PM
I think the commenter that is closest to Cedarford in tone and behavior is tubino. He's like Cedarford without the anti-Semitism. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 12:00 AM
Shit! I meant "more" not "me." Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 12:00 AM
RAYMOND BURR (just launching some test balloons, people) Posted by: shawn on January 14, 2006 12:02 AM
Sorry about the f'ed up link. The code was correct and it looked perfectly fine in the preview. I blame INTERNET. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 12:02 AM
Bart, I think that was one of MY slips there. Do you have something you'd like to tell us all about your relationship with dad? Posted by: Sigmund Freud on January 14, 2006 12:03 AM
Raymond Burr? By the way, Timmy wants to remind everyone that Raymond Burr was a homo. Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 12:04 AM
Raymond Burr kicked ass. D'oh! Russ beat me to the joke. And did a better job of it, too. Dude, you suck. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 12:05 AM
Sorry about the f'ed up link you did catch that I am a graduate of the Texas A&M University system, right? Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:06 AM
I see geoff addressed my question simultaneously as I asked it. Am I right about Oregon? Northern California. And huh-uh, Mrs. Peel, it was just professional curiosity. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 12:07 AM
See, Cedarford forever won my heart with his story about the Japanese sailors on their sinking ship who would not abandon their inflatable dolls. I don't know, somehow that spoke to me. No other troll has touched me that way. Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 12:07 AM
Y'all really know how to beat a dead horse. And speaking of dead horse beating, here's Dave still gloating about dem Hoe-rns. Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 12:09 AM
I think the commenter that is closest to Cedarford in tone and behavior is tubino. He's like Cedarford without the anti-Semitism. Playing Compare And Contrast with trolls is too much like noting the color differences between urine samples. Posted by: bbeck on January 14, 2006 12:10 AM
No other troll has touched me that way. Liar! You said you loved me! Posted by: Prud Libruul Vet on January 14, 2006 12:10 AM
the color differences between urine samples. or checking ammonia levels in your new aquarium. and I'm red-green colorblind. dammit. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:12 AM
RAYMOND BURR was in spurwings favorite Godzilla movie. (Not only was he gay, he was into golden showers.) Posted by: shawn on January 14, 2006 12:14 AM
I was going to say Southern Oregon/Northern California, but it was too vague and I wanted to be clever. Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 12:14 AM
I just found a site for the meals on wheels program in Plover, WI, but I've been scared off posting links for the nonce. Dave, I did see that, and was about to post an "eh?" but then the comment server went down briefly, and by the time I got it working, the thread had moved into the SP discussion. So are you bitter because you didn't merit an Aggie Ring? geoff, I know. I was just teasing. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 12:15 AM
Oh, man. We are all going to get tired, fall asleep, and when we wake up the entire left column of Recent Comments will read: spurwing plover, spurwing plover, spurwing plover. . . Posted by: shawn on January 14, 2006 12:17 AM
merit an Aggie ring? *smile* I was offered an Aggie diploma, 4 years after I graduated, when East Texas State University became Texas A&M Commerce, Tx. For 25 bucks. I politely declined. Mrs. Peel. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:21 AM
Huh. I hate how the non-CS branches try to mooch off the name of the CS branch. I'm not sure what the proper redass opinion on the matter is, but I can't help being a bit snobbish. So did you do your grad work at UT? Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 12:27 AM
and I'm red-green colorblind. You must have a difficult time around Christmas. I'm off. Big day tomorrow, regional fighter practice... Posted by: bbeck on January 14, 2006 12:28 AM
No. I sent my eldest daughter to UT. I was kicked out of Baylor, and NTSU, before I finally managed to get a degree from ETSU Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:30 AM
Ah, nifty. Did/does she like it? One of my best friends attended, and she had a wonderful time. The funny thing is that we also went to rival high schools. We used to joke that we would have to find rival grad schools to continue the tradition, but considering one of us is engineering and the other is liberal arts... Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 12:34 AM
bbeck, I am reliably informed red and green Christmas decorations are really pretty. I'll take em at their word. She's doing well, thanks Mrs. Peel.
Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:38 AM
Dave: Hey, I hit on her first. Posted by: someone on January 14, 2006 12:43 AM
I was offered an Aggie diploma, 4 years after I graduated, when East Texas State University became Texas A&M Commerce, Tx. Good move! Cuz, like, next to Yale, a degree from East Texas State has some clout! Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 12:56 AM
Bart, I had the same response when I tried to email SP. Okay, now we know why spurwing's email box is full. Muslihoon probably sent him a few of his 2,500-word messages to say "hello." Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 12:59 AM
I've always been an underachiever Michael. It's my trademark. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 12:59 AM
All of you, stop hitting on the new girl. Geez...it's like watching "Beauty and the Mega-Geeks" around here. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:02 AM
I've always been an underachiever Michael. LOL! OK, I want to know exactly how the fuck did you manage to get kicked out of NTSU? I mean, Chugging 101 is a required course for freshman. Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 01:04 AM
I've always been an underachiever Michael. I specialize in swimming-against-the-stream-and-refusing-to-play-the-game, which has led to a more challenging career path than it might have been. Keep telling myself: "don't be stupid, play the system." But I just can't do it. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 01:05 AM
NTSU was grades only. Baylor was a little more involved. I like to say it was a great big misunderstanding. Which is kind to me. But I did get an interview with Abner V. McCall. He was nice. But insistent. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:06 AM
We got sidetracked by spurwing, but did anyone else notice Adolfo said he was a witch? I suppose it's not too far off from scientology... Posted by: Bart on January 14, 2006 01:07 AM
But I just can't do it this, from a scientist. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:09 AM
Okay, now we know why spurwing's email box is full. Muslihoon probably sent him a few of his 2,500-word messages to say "hello." LOL some more! Musli, buddy, we love you, but a "comment" is not a "six-volume theology treatise." Dude, at least break it up and scatter it around in a few different threads. Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 01:09 AM
this, from a scientist. [airily] Some things are beyond the reach of reason and analysis. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 01:11 AM
All of you, stop hitting on the new girl. Eh, it's kind of fun. Besides, Slu, you're the only one who E-mailed me a mash note. I'm not much on playing the game myself...funny thing is that I am an excellent public speaker who doesn't turn a hair at the sight of an audience of thousands (e.g., my high school grad speech), or, for that matter, an audience of ten that includes my superior and my superior's superior with my future job offer in the balance, but when it comes to something like a party, I'm so lost. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 01:12 AM
I tell ya...scientists, lawyers, programmers, engineers... For such a smart bunch, we sure do engage in quite a bit of potty humor. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:13 AM
Besides, Slu, you're the only one who E-mailed me a mash note. SHHHHHHH!!!!!! That was supposed to be our little secret, remember?!? Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:14 AM
Slub! You emailed a hitter? Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:15 AM
For such a smart bunch, we sure do engage in quite a bit of potty humor. Speak for yourself, poopy-pants. How'd the Xbox session go? Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 01:16 AM
Yer damn skippy I did. Wanted to beat you all to the punch. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:16 AM
Xbox went well. Had some friends over, ate some pizza, drank some beer... Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:18 AM
you wascal you Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:18 AM
Well, all I have to say is, I know who's getting the "special" pictures, and it ain't Michael. But seriously folks, got to get my beauty sleep. Catch you on the flip side. Posted by: Mrs. Peel on January 14, 2006 01:19 AM
Besides, Slu, you're the only one who E-mailed me a mash note. Damn! I was going to do that. It's all about timing. Posted by: Michael on January 14, 2006 01:23 AM
Okay, fine...it wasn't anything nearly as interesting as a mash note...it was just a 'hey, good blog' note. I'm really not clever enough to figure out the subltle art of online hitting. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:23 AM
LOL! Sowwy! I'll be better. See! Small post. :-) Posted by: Muslihoon on January 14, 2006 01:24 AM
Crap...it's 1:30 here on the East Coast. Time for bed...catch you all later this weekend. Posted by: Slublog on January 14, 2006 01:25 AM
I gotta watch some martial art movies and have a coupla beers, so I, too, will sign off. But before I go: DaveinTX - that verse you wrote to the tune of Money for Nothing was side-splitting. I've re-read it about 4 times, and the wife loved it too. Forgot to mention it before. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 01:25 AM
I tell ya...scientists, lawyers, programmers, engineers... store clerks... Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 09:43 AM
geoff, lauraw was the inspiration. I just tagged along trying to be funny too. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:00 PM
geoff, lauraw was the inspiration. I just tagged along trying to be funny too. I liked lauraw's opening, but she didn't say "a dingleberry on his derriere." And manage to rhyme it in meter. Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 01:16 PM
it probably helps that I've been in two bands who covered that tune. anyway, thanks! Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 01:19 PM
All I did was change two words. That set of lyrics were just so easy. Dave is more creative and witty than that. I was so jealous of his craft, I spent an hour furiously waxing and polishing my hunchback until it glowed. That always makes a gal feel better. Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 04:43 PM
I spent an hour furiously waxing and polishing my hunchback until it glowed. That's a fine-lookin' hump, ma'am. Howz' about doin' my shinbones next? Posted by: geoff on January 14, 2006 04:49 PM
a woman who is with hump just glows naturally. I dunno what it is. Posted by: Dave in Texas on January 14, 2006 04:52 PM
*chuckling* Naturally? I wish! Unless you call rolling around under a pneumatic car-buffer mounted to the garage wall 'natural.' That's lauraw's Beauty Tip #34. Next up: Accessorizing your hump! Posted by: lauraw on January 14, 2006 05:53 PM
Don't stop now, Laura. This thread is good for at least another 3 hits. Posted by: doc on January 14, 2006 08:07 PM
Damn hippy ran off with the sword over the mantle and the rug in front of the hearth - now what can he want with those...? Gack! He was spotted by Edgar and Bertha down the street, giving political speeches from their back yard by the clothesline! Time for the men in white coats and butterfly nets I think... Posted by: Scott on January 16, 2006 10:27 AM
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What? Skeleton of the most famous Musketeer, D'Artagnan, possibly discovered in Dutch church closet.
Dumas picked four names of real musketeers out of a history book, D'Artagnan, Athos, Aramis, and Porthos. So there was an actual D'Artagnan, though he made most of the story up. (Or, you know, all of it.)* Charles de Batz de Castelmore, known as d'Artagnan, the famous musketeer of Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV, spent his life in the service of the French crown. A lot of Dumas's stories are based on bits of real history. The plot of the >Three Musketeers, about trying to recover lost diamonds from the queen's necklace, was cribbed from the then-almost-contemporaneous Affair of the Queen's Necklace. And the Man in the Iron Mask is based on real accounts of a prisoner forced to wear a mask (though I think it was a velvet mask). * Oh, I should mention, Dumas says all this, about finding the names in an old book, in the prologue to his novel. But authors lie a lot. They frequently present fictions as based on historic fact. The twist is, he was actually telling the truth here. At least about these four musketeers having actually existed and served under Louis XIV. Fun fact: You know the beginning of A Fistful of Dollars where the local gunslingers make fun of Clint Eastwood's donkey and Eastwood demands they apologize to the donkey? That's lifted from The Three Musketeers. Rochefort mocks D'Artagnan's old, brokedown farm horse and D'Artagnan is incensed.
A commenter asked which should be read first, The Hobbit of LOTR?
Easy, no question -- read The Hobbit first. It's actually the start of the story and comes first chronologically. It sets up some major characters and major pieces in play in LOTR. Also, the Hobbit is Beginner-Friendly, which LOTR isn't. The Hobbit really is a delightful book, and a fast read. It's chatty, it's casual, it's exciting, and it's funny. In that dry cheeky British humor way. I love that the narrator is constantly making little asides and commentary, like he's just sitting next to you telling you this story as it occurs to him. LOTR is a very long story. Fifteen hundred pages or so. The Hobbit is relatively short and very punchy and easy to read. If you don't like The Hobbit, you can skip out on LOTR. If you do like it, you'll be primed to read LOTR. Oh, I should say: The Hobbit is written as if it's for children, but one of those smart children's stories that are also for adults. Don't worry, there's also real fighting and violence and horror in it, too. LOTR is written for adults. (It's said that Tolkien wrote both for his children, but LOTR was written 17 years later, when his children were adults.) Some might not like The Hobbit due to its sometimes frivolous tone. Me, I love it. I find it constantly amusing. Both are really good but there is a starkly different tone to both. LOTR is epic, grand, and serious, about a world war, The Hobbit is light and breezy, and about a heist. Though a heist that culminates in a war for the spoils.
The Hobbit Challenge: Read two more chapters. I didn't have much time. Bilbo got the ring.
I noticed a continuity problem. Maybe. Now, as of the time of The Hobbit, it was unknown that this magic ring was in fact a Ring of Power, and it was doubly unknown that it was the Ring of Power, the Master Ring that controlled the others. But the narrator -- who we will learn in LOTR was none of than Bilbo himself, who wrote the book as "There and Back Again" -- says this about Gollum's ring: "But who knows how Gollum had come by that present [the Ring], ages ago in the old days when such rings were still at large in the world? Perhaps even the Master who ruled them could not have said." In another passage, the ring is identified as a "ring of power." I don't know, I always thought there was a distinction between mere magic rings and the Rings of Power created by Sauron. But this suggests that Bilbo knew this was a ring of power created by Sauron. Now I don't remember when Bilbo wrote the Hobbit. In the movie, he shows Frodo the book in Rivendell, and I guess he wrote it after he left the Shire. I guess he might have added in the part about the ring being a ring of power created by "the Master" after Gandalf appraised him of his research into the ring. I never noticed this before. I know Tolkien re-wrote this chapter while he was writing LOTR to make the ring important from the start. And also to make Gollum more sinister and evil, and also to remove the part where Gollum actually offers Bilbo the ring as a "present" -- Bilbo had already found it on his own, but Gollum was wiling to give it away, which obviously is not something the rewritten Gollum would ever do. But I had no memory of the ring being suggested to be The Ring so early in the tale.
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Tomorrow is March 25th, "Tolkien Reading Day," because March 25th is the day when the Ring is destroyed in the book. I think I'm going to start the Hobbit tomorrow and read all four books this time.
The only bad part of the trilogy are the Frodo/Sam chapters in The Two Towers. They're repetitive, slow, and mostly about the weather and terrain. But most everything else is good. Weirdly, the Frodo-Sam chapters in Return of the King are exciting and action-packed and among the best in the trilogy. (Though the chapters with everyone else in Return of the King get pretty slow again. Mostly people talking about marching towards war, and then marching towards war.)
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US decimation of Iran's ICBM forces is due to Space Force's instant detection of launches -- and the launchers' hiding places -- and rapid counter-attack via missiles
AI is doing a lot of the work in analyzing images to find the exact hiding place of the launchers. Counter-strikes are now coming in four hours after a launch, whereas previously it might have taken days for humans to go over the imagery and data.
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