My friend Steve actually was in an argument with a college hippychick

When? 1970?

Very well written. Nice content covered in the article. A lil bit funny also.

Carter, have you met Rachel from this thread? 'Cuz I've got a feeling the two of you would totally hit it off. Oh, and at the end of the day, she's cooking the food, Carter.

I remember when Bill Clinton was a guest on Letterman during the run-up to the Iraq War. Letterman said that Saddam's regime was a "cancer" that needed to be removed. Clinton agreed, saying that he thought that the initial combat would be easy, but "the day after" was what worried him.

I can't stand Letterman. Give me Leno anyday. He's funnier and tho also a lefty, he keeps it in the closet.

Letterman's still on the air? I haven't watched him after my 20th birthday.

No, seriously. One day, something went "click" and I just didn't find him all that interesting any more. (/shrug)

Letterman: “I’m not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling, I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap. [audience laughter] But I don’t know that for a fact. [more audience applause]

Great way not only to identify himself as a doorknob but also to identify the doorknobs in his audience by watching to see the ones nodding thoughtfully in response to this comment.

this is awful, how disgusting for dave letterman to question the ethics of our humble, loufah loving correspondent, bill o'reilly. bill is looking out for this administration and does a wonderful job. and bill is so fair and balanced which makes this whole episode with letterman so sad. i am devastated.

Honest to Buddah, this Letterman dinosaur belongs in a special section of the Natural History museum for nearly extinct Leftists. Children could push a button to have his stuffed effigy ask, “How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?”… just as Cindy pops up to shriek, “I told [Casey] I would run over him with a car, anything to get him not to go to that immoral war.”

I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap.

Quite possibly true (O'Reilly does ride his Mick cab driver man of the people schtick into the ground) but it still leaves Bill with three times the real content of the bulk of the MSM.

Ehhh, It's hard to have a dog in this race to the bottom. I've got some friends at Fox news and I've never heard a good word spoken about O'reilly by them (though the thai whore stories are pretty funny). I'm not a big Letterman fan either. He seems like a real tool and I'm sick and tired of the damn code word harrasment he sends my way whenever I watch the show.. A pox on both their houses

I was still watching letterman occasionally until last summer, when he had on Jane Fonda promoting her new movie. That would have been tolerable, but he was fawning over her in admiration for what she did in Viet Nam. He got her to open up about it and brag about her actions.

Frankly, I was a little shocked, and very disgusted. I'd been a Letterman fan since before his first Late Night show, but that was the end for me.

Haven't watched him in years.

Letterman wasn't speaking as a "moonbat." He was speaking as a person who doesn't know why people attack Cindy Sheehan.

And if you like Leno, well...you really are easily entertained.

I love Dave and the way he made the so-called "War on Christmas" look stupid...as it is.

Letterman does work for CBS remember. It's probably something in their water.

Letterman does work for CBS remember. It's probably something in their water.

I just heard this exchange on the radio, and Letterman can take his gooey, uninformed bleatings to his Conneticut mansion and rigorously fuck himself with them. I'm no big O'Reilly fan, but he wiped the stage with Letterman in front of a hostile crowd, and was actually funnier, to boot. Letterman was hostile, snarky, and partisan. Cindy Sheehan is an agenda driven, foolish narcissist, and the lefty idolation of her is disingenous bullshit.

Letterman wasn't "partisan." He was stating his opinions. And O'Reilly's actions and statements do nothing but invite this kind of treatment.

Letterman is the same as David Cross, Jeanine Garafalo, and that dyke Gold woman. All douche bags.

"Letterman wasn't "partisan." He was stating his opinions."

What the heck kind of "opinion" is the flat-out denial of verifiable facts? He's telling O'Reilly that Sheehan didn't call terrorists freedom fighters, and that's his "opinion"?

Well, there's yet another word that has no meaning anymore.

If there were ever an example of insular, elitist pomp it was the O'Reilly episode on Letterman. The "Honest to Christ" comment was insightful as it indicates a sincere misunderstanding of the Sheehan controversy; Letterman was stating his vacous opinion informed by we don't know what. But we do know that he is an ass.

Remember when Dan Rather came on post 9-11 and faked emotion while reciting the obscure (3rd?) verse of "America the Beautiful"? Did anyone believe him? And wasn't Letterman the perfect comfort with "You're a HUMAN BEING, man!"? No sincerity for the murdered thousands, no resolve to pursue what had become (and remains) a fierce and unconventional war. No, but plenty of trite and shallow emoting designed to focus attention on themselves.

Shameful and disgusting.

Dan Patterson
Arrogant Infidel
The Holy City of Winston-Salem

Letterman's attitude reminds me of a remark made by a fellow Grad student. She was a classic FemiNazi and regarded me as a "suit" and "gender-traitor". Frustrated that she was losing a political argument, she finally responded, "Facts just get in the way". I was stunned that a future historian could be so unprofessional and walked away.

"He's telling O'Reilly that Sheehan didn't call terrorists freedom fighters, and that's his "opinion"?"

I don't think he ever said that. Dave said he doesn't know how you can't have sympathy for the woman, a woman who has lost her son.

Next time on "Is This Anything?": An x-ray of Dave's skull.

Dave is just trying to impress Opera!

I haven't turned on DL's idiotic program since (I'm guessing, since it's been so long ago) 1990. I'm just shocked and surprised that O'Reilly would dignify it by appearing on it. If Bill doesn't know better than to appear on a sinking ship, then I think he deserved to be bewildered by Dave's moronic diatribe. Hopefully he learned something yesterday.

Boy, you couldn't ask for more comments reflecting such an "objective" look at David Letterman and his show.

And I suppose I'm to believe this guy's been around for 30 years and makes 30 million plus a year because he's such an untalented individual. And of course we all know Bill O'Reilly, and how tremendously "talented" he is.

Entertainment, much like politics can be quite "subjective," so when people rant on about how horrible Letterman is and how wonderful Leno is it loses a bit of its bite when anyone who knows anything about either also knows Leno is a Republican and Letterman is a Democrat.

Letterman has a right to his opinion, just as we do, but attacking him because he disagrees with the war in Iraq, President Bush's policies, or empathizes with Cindy has become so outlandish, it borders on being un-American.

Unless of course you don't belive in free speech.

Free speech is quite overrated.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Dan Patterson,
When you say, referring to Letterman, "But we do know that he is an ass."

Exactly who are you speaking for? The American people? The world?

Talk about being a pompous ass.

Why not just say you disagree with what he had to say or that he was uninformed, or would that not fit the mode of being a partisan hack, much like Mr. O'Reilly??

Dave in Texas,
When and where did Jefferson ever say that speech is overrated?

"Moonbats should be seen, and not heard."

- Thomas Jefferson

Russ from Winterset,
Excuse me, but when you say, "Moonbats should be see, and not heard?"

Are you referring to me, and based on what, my comments regarding free speech?

"Free speech is overrated, but not overtly so".

Thomas Jefferson, delivering a campaign speech in July 1799 in Weehauken NJ.

Dave in Texas,
I find no evidence Jefferson ever said any such thing.

anyone who knows anything about either also knows Leno is a Republican and Letterman is a Democrat

Is that right? Anyone who knows anything about either knows that, Jersey?

I'm afraid so.

But since you don't believe me, why not a little wager?

Dave in Texas,
Sorry, but even with your change in tone, to: "Free speech is overrated, but not overtly so," I still find no such quote.

Methinks you're full of it, but I could be wrong, it's not out of the question.

Yeah, here's the bet:

You go away and never come back, idiot.

Change the "@" to a:

Good-bye.

Dave is our resident expert on Thomas Jefferson.

Actually, we have quite a few resident experts on TJ, now that I think about it, but if he says that's a bona-fide Thomas Jefferson quote, well, son, you can take that to the bank.

"The only thing more satisfying than defeating a man through the rigors of logical discourse is trouncing him with fisticuffs and shin-kicks." -- Thomas Jefferson

Jersey, don't blame the messenger. I'm just quoting a great former president.

"The only thing more satisfactory than besting your opponent in vigorous debate is going home and having some sweet sweet brown sugar afterwards." - Thomas "The Constitutional Hammer" Jefferson

David Letterman is a idiot another blabbering liberal talk show host acting to defend a mindless clucking hen

I still find no such quote

I don't think you're really trying very hard. Did you look up Weehauken? I may have spelled it wrong.

Bill O'Reilly talking about David Letterman:

Mr. Letterman is a smart guy who can spot a phony with telescopic accuracy and expects his guests to bring something to the table. If a guest begins to sink on this show, the bottom is a long way down.

Mr. Bill has a long way to climb up now.

Dear Dave:
Why were you so rude to Bill Tuesday? Really rude, classless. We all saw the pencil in his water - if you don't like the guy why bring him on? Just to punch him when he's not expecting it? I tune in to be distracted from world events, not to be reminded of them. How much of your audience are Oreilly fans? This might seem like a low blow, but I really feel it's true: I bet Johnny Carson would have never behaved like that.

Just watched the clip - looks like Letterman is doing O’Reilly a favor, especially towards the end. I’m no fan of O’Reilly and wouldn’t let him speak for me, but what exactly did Letterman say that was of consequence? “You don’t have a right to disagree publically with Cindy Sheehan?”

Huh?

David who now?

Ace,
Not big on being confronted, huh, Boy?

Ace,
Oh-oh, looks like I've made somone mad.

Dave in Texas,
Sorry, oh wise one.

No such quote.

But nice try.

Did you happen to run across this one, Jersey?

"No man with the intellectual ability of a fool deserves liberty."

~Thomas Jefferson

Honesty is the first chapter of the book of love.

Do you have any who wrote it though?

-- Thomas Jefferson

I read that Leno interview link, and that was the whiniest interviewer I've ever heard in my life. "The Republicans ridicule Kerry every day!" Oh! The horror!

Leno got real defensive because he was being attacked by his own party for not hammering Bush. They were starting LenoWatch crap. Why? Because he divided his jokes pretty much 50-50 on the candidates. That's not fair for those of the moonbat persuasion. All entertainers must fall in line 100%. I swear some of those leftys are no better than the chinese Red Guard. I mean look at this jersey idiot. Because Leno isn't barking like a moonbat he's a republican.

Wow, you guys are really getting upset just because Dave called Bill on his verbose behavior.

What, is it now unAmerican to do that, too?

You know, not everyone can bow down and get in line to drink at the Bush trough of "strategery."

Next thing you know, it'll be unAmerican to do anything but take kickbacks, unless you're doing so to protect America...

Wow, you guys are really getting upset just because Dave called Bill on his verbose behavior.

"I believe the word you were looking for was 'bombastic' or 'shrill.'" -- Thomas Jefferson, inventor of the modern dictionary

Nice monicker, Mick. I loved your work with Dr. Graveline. Too bad you had to go and spoil your clever nick with such a vacuous talking-points regurgitation.

"Ace,

"Not big on being confronted, huh, Boy?"

"Ace,

"Oh-oh, looks like I've made somone mad."

You think I'm mad?

"The surest sign of a man's sanguine disposition is when he's giggling like a retard on happy-pills." -- Thomas Jefferson

Giggling too much TO FIGHT??? HUH????

Well, we wouldn't want you to hurt that pretty face.

;-)

The most valuable of all talents
is that of never using two made-up quotes
when one will do.

-- Thomas Jefferson

I don't know how any Republicans can say Bill O'Reilly won that debate.

1. Letterman's show is not a political forum. He brings on guests, allows them to plug their product and tell some funny stories. It is telling that Dave didn't mention what product Bill was hawking.

2. If one watches Letterman regularly, like me, the amazing thing was what was missing from the interview. Usually after everything the guest says, the audience cheers, laughs or applauds. After everything O'Reilly said, there was only silence. Every time Dave put down O'Reilly, the audience whooped and applauded enthusiastically.

3. The one moment of Applause O'Reilly got was when he said Cindy Sheehan shouldn't be calling terrorists "freedom fighters". The audience agreed with him on that one point.

4. That applause for O'Reilly prompted Letterman to say "I'm not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling that about 60 percent of what you say is crap, but I don't know that for a fact."

5. O'Reilly has a tendancy on these shows when he's in trouble, to say stuff like "Watch the Factor, you'll get addicted, we'll send you a hat." He did it to Jon Stewart and even on his own show to Howard Stern. It's a way for him to change the subject and plug his merchandise. Letterman wouldn't let him get away with something so trite, saying "Well send Cindy Sheehan a hat."

6. Letterman ended with a handshake, saying "Bill, it's always a pleasure." The audience roared laughing because that's a backhanded put-down Letterman often uses. When O'Reilly goes on The Daily Show and Real Time with Bill Maher, the audiences give him a hard time because they are almost all democrats. In stark contrast, this time Bill was given a hard time by an audience representing mainstream America.

It's a pity Letterman feigns stupidity on political matters. He did the same thing when Bush came on a few years back. If only Dave boned up on politics a little before these interviews.....he'd tear these guys apart.

Sorry to disappoint you, Ace.

But I find it amusing that people are so upset about this whole thing, and no one on the right wants ANYONE to dare say something negative about the war or Bush's policies. If they do, they're a commie, a whacko, deranged, etc. There's no room on the right for anyone's opinion about the war except for what Bush says.

And Dr. Graveline...well, he had it coming. Time to head back out to Stiltsville.

Sorry to disappoint you, Ace.

But I find it amusing that people are so upset about this whole thing, and no one on the right wants ANYONE to dare say something negative about the war or Bush's policies. If they do, they're a commie, a whacko, deranged, etc. There's no room on the right for anyone's opinion about the war except for what Bush says.

And Dr. Graveline...well, he had it coming. Time to head back out to Stiltsville.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, Ace.

I don't think you're sorry at all. You just don't give off that "sincerity vibe". You're more like that guy outside the train station who yells at the passers-by: "Real Rolex! Only ten dollar! You buy!" I mean, I'm sure he's selling a quality product there...but I just get the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Christ on a crutch! Do you droolers even think about what you're posting? Who's talking about the Iraq War here? This is about Letterman calling O'Reilly's claim crap when it's fact. You guys seem to be the ones squashing any inference that Letterman may have been inaccurate. The only people saying anything negative is you guys--O'Reilly's correct here.

And if you're so amused others are upset, why don't you get your placating shoes on and have a talk with the poster above you? Look at the size of that post--we're upset? That guy said fuck-all and took up half the thread.

This has to be the sorriest batch of trolls we've had in months--this shit is retarded.

Waitaminute...Letterman called a couple of things crap, one being the stupid "WAR ON CHRISTMAS". Letterman's called that one 150% correctly. It's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard that has zero importance.

Second, he said he didn't know how you couldn't be sympathetic to a woman who lost her son in the war. How is that inaccurate?

Stop changing the subject. You said a bunch of dumbass stuff and I hung it around your neck and now you're changing the subject back to Letterman. Classic troll behavior.

But it's too late. New Topic: You're a drooling fucking troll. Take a powder.

Letterman's called that one 150% correctly

Wait wait wait. 150%? How can that be? I mean, if he's 100% correct, that's as correct as he can mathematically be. It's the Platonic Ideal of correctness. Godlike correctness, even. And I'm at least 80% sure that Letterman isn't God (God wouldn't have a freaky hairdo like that or a gap in his teeth).

But then, I'm not really into advanced math -- maybe we're talking about advanced math here. Maybe mick knows all about it. Maybe he splits atoms. With his mind.

Jon Stewart, another flaming-anus like Letterman, will be hosting the Oscars.
Woop dee da dooooo! Big feckin' deal.

I can't believe how far Stewart's dead-panned delivery of a line, followed by a dead-pan stare, finished with a drop of the head or eye-rolling has gotten him.

Mick Shitforbrains, the ploy of making people feel stupid for calling attention to the Atheists and secularists vast, blatant conspiracy to eradicate Christmas is not going to work. Tell your friends. And Merry Christmas.

I'd like to know exactly how many moonbats there are in the media because its getting to be quite disconcerting. I thought I liked David Letterman, but now I don't know...

spongeworthy, I don't know what you think you hung around my neck. I'm sure Letterman could have been inaccurate on something, but it was still fun to watch him call out Billy.

And Bart, people should feel stupid for calling any attention to the WAR...ON...CHRISTMAS.

Monty, I can bend spoons with my mind, but I'm still working on the atom. I'll let you know.

Specialneedspresident

I'm may be a Libertarian but I believe that the Republican response is...

1. Sure the Letterman show was not specifically made as a political forum, it is a show for celebrities to come out and hawk their movie/show/book, etc., however, considering that the overwhelming majority of celebrities have a leftist tilt, whenever they are on they usually get to put out their political opinions, especially if the movie/show/book has a political topic. That said, the show often times has celebrities on just to fill time on the show as they aren't hawking something.

2. The Letterman show is filmed in Manhattan. The heart of blue state country. Might as well call it East San Francisco. As for claiming that O'Reilly only received silence you then discredit that statement with # 3.

3. I'll admit I was surprised that anyone in New York would agree that Al-Qaida is not made up of "Freedom Fighters".

4. Ad hominem attack. Hardly something to be proud of, or to point to as a "winning point".

5. This was hardly changing the subject. The subject was that Dave was unfamiliar with the show and made the unsubstantiated claim that O'Reilly was making things up. On the other hand, Dave tried to change the subject when he said Lets go back to that red and green thing.

6. Saying "It's always a pleasure" whether one means it or not is just good manners. But hardly worth a point in a debate.