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November 22, 2005
Bush Argued For Bombing Al Jazeera HQ?So says the UK Mirror, which I would usually deeply discount as regards credibility, but their sourcing seems to be legit: PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo reveals. From Al Jazeera's famous Republican Guards? No, of course from Al Jazeera's direct-action wing, Al Qaeda. ... At first blush, I'm inclined to believe this happened, more or less. Although I'd guess it was more ranting by Bush in frustration than a serious plan. The strike would have been pretty ill-advised, even if one could make a fair case that Al Jazeera is part of the communications effort of Al Qaeda. One thing that makes me think this is less-than-serious is my assumption that there are less dramatic ways to take a station off the air. Couldn't a ship sitting off the coast of Qatar have jammed Al Jazeera's signal as it beamed it up to a satellite? Or beamed its own gibberish signal to the satellite on the same frequency as Al Jazeera, overwhelming the AJ signal? Or perhaps we could have parked a nice big blocking satellite right in the path from Al Jazeera to its satellite. In all likelihood, there are treaties forbidding this, and there would have been repercussions for taking such actions... but then, there are treaties forbidding attacking the sovereign territory of an ally (and Qatar, despite the odious presence of Al Jazeera, is as close to a good ally in the region as we have). So I'm sort of torn between respecting the source and thinking this is crap. This was inevitable: The No 10 memo now raises fresh doubts over US claims that previous attacks against al-Jazeera staff were military errors. It pains me to admit this, but I have to say I have fresh doubts about these being accidents myself. Not that I'll cry myself to sleep over the strikes tonight. posted by Ace at 11:49 AM
CommentsI dunno, Ace. This memo sounds kinda fishy to me. A little too convenient. And until the end, the article seems pretty thinly sourced. Lots of nameless comments. Posted by: Sean M. on November 22, 2005 12:03 PM
I think it would have been a tremendous mistake. However, let's just say that I wouldn't have shed a tear, had there been a "gas line" explosion at the Al-Jazeera HQ (or NYT-Qatar as I like to call it). Posted by: Jordan on November 22, 2005 12:05 PM
We could just blow up the satellite. Posted by: Sobek on November 22, 2005 12:13 PM
I don't believe it at all, except perhaps the "humorous, not serious" part. Qatar *is* a key ally, not to mention that I suspect al Jazeera has its uses to us, whether overt (we, through Qatar, can exercise some leverage if need be) or covert (infiltrating al Jazeera = infiltrating a conduit to al Qaeda.) Posted by: David C on November 22, 2005 12:16 PM
Yeah, I think this is bullshit. W probably did make a joke about blowing up Al-Jazeera, but there is no way in hell he ever seriously considered bombing an Arab ally to hurt a tv station, no matter how in the tank for jihadists they are. Posted by: UGAdawg on November 22, 2005 12:44 PM
"a nice big blocking satellite" Ha ha ha. . . Man, I'm gonna have to use that one at work. . . Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 22, 2005 01:15 PM
The smart bomb thing could easily have been a mistake. Part of the "Texas 10" SpecOps team in Afganistan waxed itself by calibrating the targeting gear incorrectly one day. Apparently its not a mindless procedure to use the laser targeting stuff. Mistakes in calibration can result on the bombs falling on you or in the wrong place. Texas 10's exploits in Afganistan were stunning and crucial to the swift collapse of the Taliban. They only screwed up once, but it was a doozie. Posted by: Purple Avenger on November 22, 2005 01:40 PM
Al Jereza are not the only news people that have been killed so the cause and effect theory to support us targeting them is highly questionable. Posted by: polynikes on November 22, 2005 02:00 PM
Fox News, yadda yadda, blah blah. Seriously though, I am tired today. Can you just fill in the rest of the comment and take it from there...? Posted by: usual troll on November 22, 2005 02:04 PM
Couldn't a ship sitting off the coast of Qatar have jammed Al Jazeera's signal as it beamed it up to a satellite? Or beamed its own gibberish signal to the satellite on the same frequency as Al Jazeera, overwhelming the AJ signal? Telemundo would have been good. Posted by: on November 22, 2005 02:10 PM
Innocents? At Al-Jazeera? Where? Posted by: someone on November 22, 2005 02:19 PM
I recall this topic from a while back, I believe it came as a response to the broadcasting of beheadings. My memory is a little foggy, but I think it was discussed as a way to stop them from showing the atrocities. BTW it's funny how the Libs got their panties in a bunch over naked guy pyramids, but broadcasting beheadings on TV was just a matter of cultural differences. Posted by: Steve on November 22, 2005 03:14 PM
It pains me to admit this, but I have to say I have fresh doubts about these being accidents myself. Not that I'll cry myself to sleep over the strikes tonight. I'd play my nano-violin but I can't seem to find it. I guess non-crying is about all I'll be able to work up over this story. Posted by: Tongueboy on November 22, 2005 03:39 PM
The fact everyone seems to think "it would be a mistake" shows that we are never going to get serious in this war. We're just going to keep trying to manage the problem and hope it goes away. Kerry got pasted when he said terrorism is a problem like prostitution that just needs to be managed but will never disappear. Is Bush really doing anything different? Do any of you really believe anything other than that? Posted by: Joshua Chamberlain on November 22, 2005 03:57 PM
My colleague Mary Mapes is digging into these memos... Posted by: Dan Rather on November 22, 2005 03:57 PM
Bypass the vitriol ("anyone too stupid to look at a map") but do read *Hilarious “Downing Street II”* Posted by: John Anderson on November 22, 2005 04:03 PM
I would have been a lot happier to see W threaten to bomb the BBC. Just a little present for Blair. Posted by: IK on November 22, 2005 06:33 PM
Why use a "gibberish signal" to piggyback Al Jazeera's signal & take over their satellite when we can use The Western World's Secret Weapon........LESBIAN PRoN? Let the Arab world get a load of the most decadent product of our culture and they'll soon lose interest in blowing things up. Posted by: Russ from Winterset on November 22, 2005 06:52 PM
But nobody cares when Al-Jazeera journalists are arrested and put on trial in Spain because Spain's security services caught them helping the terrorist ring that bombed Madrid in 2004. Posted by: Moonbat_One on November 22, 2005 07:12 PM
This Bush comment had to be one of his jokes made in a relaxed moment in the meting with Blair. But the most reveling consequence is the rest of the world press giving this any credit. Journalism is creating it's own reality where Bush and the United States is the demon and beheading and bombing yihadists some sort of resistance heroes or necessary consequence from the Iraq invasion. That is, when ever you invade a country its people will react first sacking everything at hand and latter killing their own people in order to expel the enemy. The fact that Al Jazzera journalists are giving credit to the bombing speaks bad of their intelligence and objectivity, showing us that they are more involved in helping Al Quaeda than informing of what is really happening around. Posted by: Jorge Iani on November 26, 2005 07:56 AM
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