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US Arrested, And Released, Iraqi With Same Name As Amman BomberNot confirmed yet if it's the same guy, though: .S. forces detained and later released an Iraqi with a name that matched one of three suicide bombers who struck Amman hotels, killing 57 others, the U.S. military said Monday. Yes, by all means, let's release all of these guys if we cannot, in the midst of a war, prove their crimes or continuing danger before a federal jury. I mean, that's what we did in WWII, right? After we'd captured tens of thousands of German troops, we let them go a few weeks later, because we could not prove them guilty of crimes and we could also not prove they'd immediately reconstitute with the Wehrmacht after release. And here come the conspiracy theories. just when Bush has his lowest approval rate of his service, and shortly after the 12 months of Fitzmas, a man we "detained" and then "released for want of evidence" "just so happens" to show up in Amman and "blow up a wedding." Just as Bush is claiming that "terrorists" intend to kill us, Europeans, Jews, and not-sufficiently-Islamist Muslims, this "surprise attack" comes to suggest that he's "right." * I question the timing. * Overuse of scare quotes designed to emulate the paranoid schizophrenic school of political discourse. posted by Ace at 02:59 PM
CommentsHere's a link to a link that has more of this... including an incident in which a US soldier was shot and wounded by a terrorist that had been captured and released for 'lack of evidence'... Posted by: steve sturm on November 14, 2005 03:03 PM
"Japproval"? Is that related to the World War II analogy? ;-) Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on November 14, 2005 04:37 PM
pfff. Safaa Mohammed Ali was my cab driver yesterday. And makes a mean kabob. And runs the bodega... I was hoping they'd say he was in Abu Ghraib. At least then I could feel confident that Private Lindsay laughed at his wiener. Posted by: SomeJoe on November 14, 2005 06:40 PM
Hi, "Ace"! Posted by: on November 14, 2005 06:59 PM
This is a silly post. The only way to be sure you will never release a bad guy is to never release anyone you detain which is not practical. Posted by: James B. Shearer on November 14, 2005 08:34 PM
The only way to be sure you will never release a bad guy is to never release anyone you detain... But there's a wide gulf between our current policy and surety. Posted by: geoff on November 14, 2005 08:45 PM
geoff, our current policy has nothing to do with requiring proof to a federal jury or any other level of due process. I suspect detainees are released more or less at random when we run out of space. It is at least arguable that requiring some degree of proof to hold people would improve matters. What do you think we should be doing differently? Posted by: James B. Shearer on November 14, 2005 11:11 PM
I suspect detainees are released more or less at random when we run out of space. That was not my understanding. The Abu Ghraib scandal forced the US to accelerate prisoner releases, rather than detaining them indefinitely as POWs. This policy, while hopefully more just, has the side effects mentioned above. The question is: is a Type I error (letting a terrorist go) sufficiently bad that we should allow more Type II errors (mistakenly detaining innocents)? But the point here is that the policies espoused by the liberal critics have had the obvious consequences for which those same critics will never take responsibility. Posted by: geoff on November 14, 2005 11:42 PM
geoff, liberals are not running our detention facilities in Iraq. If detainees are being released inappropriately it is not their fault. People were released from Abu Ghraib because it was overcrowded and understaffed. You can't keep adding prisoners and never let anyone out. If you think we need more prisons perhaps you should say so. Posted by: James B. Shearer on November 15, 2005 12:17 AM
geoff, liberals are not running our detention facilities in Iraq. Nor are they running the facility at Guantanamo. But pressure from the left has forced the release of several prisoners, some of whom were later captured in Afghanistan after they rejoined the Taliban. If you think we need more prisons perhaps you should say so. We are already expanding the prison facilities and adding a fourth prison, and hopefully in the not-too-distant future the prisons will be handed over to the Iraqis. You can't keep adding prisoners and never let anyone out. Well, yeah, that's what you do with POWs. We have the unusual situation that we can't exactly tell if the detainees deserve to be POWs, since the combatants don't have uniforms, but other than that, yes, we keep them until the fighting's done. That said, I'll admit that there's at least as much pressure from the Iraqis themselves as there is from the liberal faction at home. Posted by: geoff on November 15, 2005 12:42 AM
Michael Yon has described how frustrated the US troops are with the Iraqi judicial system which has truly become westernized in it's adaptation of the 'Catch and Release of Dangerous Criminals' program. Posted by: Ring on November 16, 2005 03:25 PM
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