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November 11, 2005

Richard Posner: Too Much Welfare Attracts Malcontent Immigrants

The New Editor digs up what seems a pretty prescient prediction of probable precognitive prognotistication:

Because the U.S. does not have a generous safety net--because it is still a nation in which the risk of economic failure is significant--it tends to attract immigrants who have values conducive to upward economic mobility, including a willingness to conform to the customs and attitudes of their new country. And because the U.S. does not have employment laws that discourage new hiring or restrict labor mobility (geographical or occupational), immigrants can compete for jobs on terms of substantial equality with the existing population. Given the highly competitive character of the U.S. economy, in contrast to the economies of Europe, employers cannot afford to discriminate against able workers merely because they are foreign and perhaps do not yet have a good command of English. By the second generation, most immigrant families are fully assimilated, whatever their religious beliefs or ethnic origins.

...

Advocates of the European model point to the pockets of poverty in the United States, but may not realize that poverty cannot be abolished without recourse to measures that produce the social pathologies that we observe in Europe. Social mobility implies the opportunity to fail. If society protects jobs, the employment opportunities of ambitious newcomers are reduced and they may end up at the embittered margin of society. Thus, it is not poverty that breeds extremism; it is social policies intended in part to eradicate poverty that do so, by obstructing exit from minority subcultures. If Muslims in European societies do not feel a part of those societies because public policy does not enable them to compete for the jobs held by non-Muslims--if instead, excluded from identifying with the culture of the nation in which they reside they perforce identify with the worldwide Muslim culture--some of them are bound to adopt the extremist views that are common in that culture. The resulting danger to Europe and to the world is not offset by long vacations.

Practically a premonition.

Read it all.


posted by Ace at 07:22 PM
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"Social mobility implies the opportunity to fail."

Exactly! That's why we demand social justice!

Posted by: LarryLion on November 11, 2005 08:29 PM

Posner has been speaking truth to power for my entire adult life. I remember first reading his stuff back when I was in law school. He regularly posts on the Becker-Posner Blog. This blog is well worth a periodic visit.

Posted by: Michael on November 11, 2005 08:32 PM

Awesone Alliteration, Ace!

Posted by: erik on November 11, 2005 08:49 PM

But, but, it's just so UNFAIR and MEAN-SPIRITED!

Posted by: Moonbat_One on November 11, 2005 09:21 PM

because it is still a nation in which the risk of economic failure is significant

I would change "risk" to "costs". If you get a high school diploma, avoid having children until married, don't get married until you're at least 21 and are willing to work full-time, the risk of economic failure is very low. For each of those guidlines you violate, you increase the risk, and our limited safety net for such people means the costs are higher than they are in Europe. Not everyone in the US get's rich, obviously, but if you are responsible and willing to work, success is almost inevitable, no matter your race or religion.

Of course our poor still have several televisions, 200 cable channels and their biggest health problem is obesity, so it can't be all that bad in the US can it?

Posted by: Patrick H on November 11, 2005 09:43 PM

Posner is pulling his punches.

Of *course* the issue is whether "Muslims identify with the culture of the nation in which they reside" But it's Pollyannaish to believe that the reason they don't is because that western society has adopted rules or a culture of it's own guaranteeing that separation.

The problem is that their culture will always be separate. Separate in Britain. Separate in France. Separate in Belgium. They will be separate, as they are currently, in every Western society.

And if the U.S. isn't feeling it yet, it ain't cause our system somehow melts/melds them in better. No. It's only cause the numbers ain't there yet. In France, they're getting there.

Yeah, France will survive this latest burp. For now. But will it survive when it reaches 30% muslim? 40%. The simple fact is that their culture is beyond assimilation by ours. Cell phones and cable TV how no signs of convincing them women aren't chattle. Whose culture will assimilate whose?

Posted by: Cutty on November 11, 2005 09:56 PM

I think that Adam Smith might have been on to something!

Posted by: kbiel on November 11, 2005 10:18 PM

fantastic article.

Posted by: Village Idiot on November 11, 2005 10:53 PM

I have this sudden urge to watch 'Groundhog's Day' for some reason.

Posted by: Feisty on November 11, 2005 11:13 PM

I'll second Michael's kudos for Posner. When I was in law school even my liberal professors acknowledged the man as a genius. He's a law professor at the University of Chicago, arguably the best law school in the country. He's also a federal appeals court judge, writes one or two books a year and numerous law review articles and articles in magazines. And then he also travels all over the country giving speeches. The man is a machine.

If the world worked as it should, he would have been a Supreme Court justice 20 years ago. Unfortunately, his own voluminous writings have doomed him. He's this generation's Learned Hand, i.e., the most qualified person never to be on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Huck on November 11, 2005 11:18 PM

Posner is God.

Posted by: SWLiP on November 12, 2005 12:49 AM

Able achievement at alliteration Ace. Are you at all aquaint academically about apt antimetabole.

Posted by: Speller on November 12, 2005 08:47 PM

re: Posner: double duh! Absolutely spot on.

to cutty: Your last comment is absolutely spot on, also. Great observation.

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