The people that shun or abuse our troops do not deserve our country much less all the opportunities it gives them. They are stupidly selfish immaturely whining when they can't get their way and vilely slandering those oppose them. They are not only unpatriotic but are not really citizens as well.

My contribution to the armed forces was to go to a Marine recruiting office yesterday to offer them a birthday greeting on their 230th anniversary and give them a fine bottle of livation. Today in a Walmart I stopped to shake the hand of a vet in a wheel chair while offering him a happy vets day.

Isn't it going to be open season on liberals in about a week?

Rumor has it there's no bag limit this year...

It's actually pretty simple: Lefties are commies. They are dedicated to the overthrow of the US govt and to the destruction of US society and the free enterprise economc system. Their behavior is consistent with those goals. What is more, they scaled all of their anti-US activities back during the Clinton years. They thought they had achieved a coup. Think about it.

They don't love this country. They love what they think it should be.

If they even love that at all.

Yep Liberals are anti-American not because of philosophical ideal or logic , but because they think it's cool . Che was a pathological murderer , but he looks so cool with his beard and beret. How many times have I seen on the back of some hippie's beat up car bumper stickers saying both "Free Tibet" and "No war in Iraq" or Pro abortion bumper stickers along with Animal rights PETA bumper stickers.

Sneeches LOL

I love that story.

Purple Avenger,
No jacklighting now. Be sure to wear some orange. And have fun out there.

I notice that ol Tubi hasn't responded yet to ask if you're questioning his patriotism...

Why don't you one of you traitors sign up and go to Iraq to prove how patriotic you are, or are you just the whining faggots you appear to be?

Ahh, the old 'chickenhawk' argument. Now if you're really talking about the antipatriotic partisans, some of which ARE traitors, you'd be referring to the left-wing moonbats.

Why don't you one of you traitors sign up and go to Iraq to prove how patriotic you are, or are you just the whining faggots you appear to be?

Wishing for the establishment of a military junta is really un-American. Why do you hate civilian control of the military? And why do people have to earn the right to express an opinion in support of the war?

The argument of some is that you may not question their patriotism because they “gave their blood for their country.” Guess what? Benedict Arnold gave his blood, too.

He was a genuine soldier with some outstanding victories to his credit. He was shot in the leg in one battle, and later, after he had recovered, had the same leg crushed when his horse was shot from under him. And then he tried to sell West Point to the British.

You bet I question the patriotism of all those phony “anti-war” fools who actively work to help our enemies succeed! For example, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry of the Navy, Whats-is-name of the Marines, and, of course, William the False of the draft dodgers.

"Why don't you one of you traitors sign up and go to Iraq to prove how patriotic you are, or are you just the whining faggots you appear to be?"

How do you know some of us aren't in Iraq, dumbass! You're an idiot that's why you're such a liberal.

I'm Proud to say got back September 15th from Rt Irish-happy to be home.

I ask again: how come libtards get to throw the word "faggot" around without being called "homophobic?"

And of course I answer myself again: because they're a bunch of hypocritical douchebags.

Oh- that was me-sorry I forgot my name.

Proudly an 11B. B Co. 1/69th

Welcome home, Max, and thanks!

From another, Welcome home Max, and thanks.

To the Proud Liberal Vet: There are obviously more of us vets that despise the America-haters than he is aware of, and as far as I can tell, many more of us than of the America-hating vets. Even my youngest, about to be sent to the war, thinks turkeys like Proud Liberal Vet are effete wusses that wonder why the world hates them, and don't have the brains to connect the dots between envy, extremism and the war.

And if you have to look up "effete", don't pull the intellectual superiority crap.

Proud Lib. Vet is probably stuck on stupid, and probably runs with other mental pigmies that have no tolerance for disagreement with their own views. And nice shot, too, about "faggots" - that'll earn you a lot of points from the crowd that gets accused of intolerance all the time, but sees blatant hypocricy from such statements.

The closest any of you girly men ever got to battle is when you beat up your little sisters. However, I'll fight for your right to call real fighting men traitors, even though you are low life pieces of shit.

The closest any of you girly men ever got to battle is when you beat up your little sisters.

MICAH? Is that YOU? How have you been, man?

PLV notwithstanding, Buckley's observation about the first 100 names in the phone book being better rulers than the elites is somewhat improved if we go with a random 100 soldiers. PLV knows he is in the fringe minority at home and much, much more so in the military he implies he served in.

Kudos, Max, for a great job over there. Glad to have you back.

I call bullshit on PLV. Some weird kind of proud that doesn't put a name to his posts and has to make up email addresses along the lines of gijoe@realamericanhero.com

I agree. PLV sounds about as much like a vet as my crochety uncle. Probably a pimply faced teenager playing out his fantasies.

I'm guessing PLV is a veteran; probably Air Force!

[ducking and running :)]

BTW, welcome home max!

probably Air Force!

Jealousy is an ugly thing, BrewFan.

Yo Max so you're a gun bunny eh ? M 109's ? I'm an old arty dude myself, but I never fired a shot in anger.

PLV doesn't sound like a vet to me, but please don't put down the Air Force, my Dad was an R.O. and a 30 year lifer dog.

Jealousy is an ugly thing, BrewFan

While in the Army, I went to a school at Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo, TX and I've got to admit that the Air Force lived like kings and I *was* jealous :)

Just joshin' john. BTW, 11B is an infantryman.

Yeh I know what you mean, but I could of joined the Air Force so I got what I had coming. Froze my freaking ass off in Germany . I could not be a pilot because due to my eyesight and i wanted to be in a combat arms position.

yep yer right I was thinking 13B

john, happy belated veterans day! Thanks for having served. Our duty isn't over though. Now we have to make sure that max and his comrades-in-arms get the honor and support they deserve.

Thanks. and happy Vets day to all. Yer right . The only way we lose this thing is if the Libs get there way and have us pull out like we did in Vietnam. The thought of that makes my blood boil.

Of course I don't question their patriotism. To do so would be to acknowledge that they had patriotism, which they don't.

I can't pretend you fags pretending you have ever seen any real military action, or that you give a shit about the country. You traitors tell about as many lies as that draft dodging retard you elected that is destroying my country.

Never said I saw a lick of combat or that i was a hero, far from it. Yer the only one claiming to be Aidie fucking Murphy.

I can't type very well either. but you get the point.

Tell me, Proud Liberal Asshat, who did you vote for in '92 and '96?

I vote Democratic every time zetfag. I don't vote for the chickenhawk, blue blood, coporate whores that you worship.

Gee I thought Chimpy actually served ; flew decrepit F 102 fighters in Texas ANG . But now Bill , "nice blow job" Clinton he was a draft dodger No ?

Corporate whores ? You sound like a commie ? Which side did you serve ?

Well, I'm a vet (USAF ==> the literate service, Brewfan), and the "Proud Liberal Vet" sounds like he was never near any type of military service. Just another mincing, prancing troll looking for attention and besmirching the good name of our Armed Forces.

the Air Force lived like kings and I *was* jealous :)

Every night on a mattress, every meal was hot and we didn't have to spend 6 months at a time locked in a steel can without a woman in sight. The recruiter didn't even have to explain that part and I was still a kid.

Honestly, though, I'd do it differently today and tried to make good after 9/11. About 4 months of letters, forms and telephone calls until my birthday nailed the debate about time in service and tollings. Hell, at this point they would surely have given me a desk job anyway.

You guys under arms were always the shit. Friendly rivalries notwithstanding, we all know it. In my branch, that privilege was mostly reserved to officers -- or people who wore funny berets. (Note: Do not fuck with the funny berets. The hats exist as a perpetual provocation to keep our Jedi limber.)

Sounds vaguely like we might both have been in Europe during the Cold War, BrewFan. Either way, thanks for for what you did.

Yo Geoff is you implying that non AF types is illiterate or somethin.

"Gee I thought Chimpy actually served ; flew decrepit F 102 fighters in Texas ANG . "

Yea that retard protected Texas from a surprise attack from the North Vietnamese, in between trips to the whore houses in Mexico. He was AWOL just like the rest of you maggots.

Anyway I'm out of here. I can't stand the stinch of big talking cowards.

OK, Proud Liberal Cocksucker, so it didn't bother you that Clinton dodghed the draft?

There is no way PLV is a vet unless controlled substances are involved with his postings.

Put up or shut up, Micah.

No matter what you did in the military, there is someone who is more hard corp or who has sacrificed more or has more medals or whatever. I know a lot of people who did see combat and a highly decorated ( a few are in my family). Of all the combat vets that I nkow, they never talk about their experiences and they do not have the false bravado of an ass hat like PLO or PLV . This chickenhawk argument is ridiculous. Lincoln was our greatest president, did he ever see combat, what about Jefferson ?

Okay, seriously, who's posting as PLV? The parody is too perfect.

Also in defense of chimpy, although he never saw combat, it is my understanding that he did volunteer for a tour in Vitnam while in the ANG. And flying jet fighters (especially the crap they used to fly in the ANG) is inherently dangerous albeit more glamorous and cushy than being a ground pounder.

I just love that the left-wing is made up of so many asshats that apparently watched Starship Troopers and thought to themselves "Now, that's a great way to run the government."

Damn where did PLO go. I wanted to hear his war stories. I wonder what it was like serving under General Giap.

It's amazing to me what huge cred military service has among the liberals. [Only, of course, if that military service is coupled with a liberal point of view.] So we get them pretending to be ex-military, as if that provides them an unanswerable vantage point.

They do seem to evaporate, though, when confronted by the plethora of conservatives who have actually served.

I haven't seen too many libs in the military especially among officers. Does Wesley Clark make anyone else want to puke ?

Whoa, hang on a sec here, folks. Surely you're not suggesting that Proud Liberal Felcher was... lying? That's so unlike a Donk.

I would like to hear PLV's opinion on how the Democrats routinely try to block the military vote. It must really piss him off that his brothers in arms have to be disenfranchised to keep them from voting Republican.

That is, of course, assuming PLV actually KNOWS anyone in the military.

I haven't seen too many libs in the military especially among officers.

A quick poll in my immediate family (6 current or former officers, 1 former enlisted) shows no liberals. "This house is clear."

Sounds vaguely like we might both have been in Europe during the Cold War, BrewFan. Either way, thanks for for what you did.

Nope. The closest I got to Europe or anywhere overseas was Ft. Meade. I'm not complaining though; Uncle Sam sent me to language school to learn N. Vietnamese and was there when the Paris Peace Accords were signed. Now you know why I believe in God :)

Maybe you guys should get out more. I know a number of liberal vets where I work. Hey, here's an easy way to find some: look at the vets smeared by the republican party. Max Cleland comes to mind.

Here's one with a blog.

If you look at the republican voting record on funding for vet benefits, it's not hard to imagine there being more lib vets in the future. I posted some relevant facts on figures on the Vet Day thread.

Oh, and Happy Veterans Day to all, and especially to those who served this country.

Did not join for the benefits (though it did help me pay for college). Remember JFK (stole it from a Roman senator)saying something like "ask not what your country can do for you..."

You are soo concerned about the vets . What do you have to say about those bastards from Code Pink harassing wounded soldiers outside of Walter Reed hospital. Now that is lower than whale shit.

Why don't go do something about fag Brown, or do you need to find someone else to do your fighting for you punk?

I know a number of liberal vets where I work.

Ask them how they feel about the Democrats' schemes to disenfranchise the military vote and to consider why such a thing would be politically expedient for them.

PLV, I hear that you can get some education assistance and stuff if you were in the military.

That is, you know, if you actually were.

Huh ? put down the crack pipe.

Proud Liberal Skidmark seems awfully fond of calling other people fags. And you know what they say about folks like that... Don't ask, don't tell!

Cocksucker Brown thinks he can call Americans, other than his fellow whackjobs, traitors, and he is worried about being called a fag.

If PLO is implying that I'm homosexual. Sorry , I'm not of that persuasion, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Remember the movie Stripes when the recruiter asked the Bill Murray character if he was gay.

"You mean flaming ?"

Just go ahead and come out of the closet, Proud Liberal Anal Wart. It's OK, really. You'll feel much better about yourself.

Don't ask , don't tell.

Yes, PLV, stop living the lie. Besides, it's much more socially acceptable to be gay, as opposed to being a phony vet.

"Just go ahead and come out of the closet, Proud Liberal Anal Wart. It's OK, really. "

You are speaking from experience are you, pretty boy?

Yeh, it's really hip now adays to be gay and your Hero Che Guevera was a tail gunner too.

Starve that damned thing. It's not really a veteran. It's barely got DNA. But thank the rest of you guys for serving our country. If you only understood how much of a turn-on a uniform is. What am I saying, that's probably why some of you boys joined up. ;)

I've seen a few hot babes in uniform too, though I gotta say that Pfc England chick made my wieney shrivel up like a Vienna sausage.

Sorry if i'm being crude here don't want to be too offensive.

Oh, no! Not the dreaded "I'm rubber, you're glue" gambit! Good lord! *choke*

Zetetic, he learned that deadly counter-attack in the harsh desert battles of the Korean War. Don't you DARE question him!

What punditry,what lucid prose, just call me Christopher fucking Hitchens.

Brown and Sortelli must be bum buddies.

While we're talking about gayness...

Was I the only one on the site who did not know Megan is a lesbiana?

(How did I not see it?)
Now that I think back, she did make some peculiar comments in the recent past regarding girls. Hmm, I must be slipping. Then again, it took me a long time to realize bbeck is a chick.

Good point PLO, you are quite the logician. That is one mean argument. You got me I am a lumber jack and I'm ok .

Was I the only one on the site who did not know Megan is a lesbian?

You must have missed the Friday where she started demanding that lauraw and bbeck IM her and serve her needs. It was riveting.

Sorry , but who is Megan ? Is that someone on TV ?

Megan's one of the local commenters.

Oh, I totally figured PLV out, by the way. He's not a vetERAN. He's a vetERNARIAN. Silly me, all this time I thought he was a lying sack of cock-obsessed shit.

No I think he is a veteran. PLO is none other than Wesley Clark. He does make me puke.

Well.... He's got those crazy eyes like Wesley, all right.

But Clark had at least enough brains and charm to impress a few people. Plus he actually, you know, served.

I just think Clark is an opportunitic weasal. I can't believe someone did not frag his ass. He still makes me puke, sorry,

It looks like I have upset the two girly men so I had better let them recover, in private. By the way I'll let all my fellow Liberal vets know that the draft dodgers over at asscrack's website think they are all traitors. Maybe they will drop by to thank you punks for all your love for the military.

Any of you queers know how to remove a medium sized cylinder shaped object from a rectum?

Oh yes PLO, I am a mass of seething hatred, for you have exposed me as a homosexual. I always wondered why I like show tunes . Yes please tell all yer liberal vet friends I am sure there are thousands. Thank you for shopping K-mart.

Brown and Sortelli looove each other. *Smooch* *Smooch* (And they're both men!)

Burn!!!

Oh yeh that Sortelli is one hot dude, he is my Italian Stallian love slave.

What a strange phenomenon. Liberals trolling a conservative site and throwing anti-homosexual insults at the commenters.

That's like a conservative going to a liberal site and prefacing all his comments with You jesus-loving freaks... or You abortion clinic bombing terrorists....

I thought you loved me for my mind!

That actually sounds like fun, Bart.

No it's really for your money. Wanna we get gay married next week ?

So, does Megan have a girlfriend?

Come back next week for another hour of Glute Talk.

It'll never work, man, you think Wesley Clark is a puke-inducing opportunistic weasel, I think he's a crazy-eyed untrustworthy fool.

We're just too different.

Q: What do you call a person who hates Bush and hates homosexuals?

We'll always have Paris , or was it Cleveland ?

So, does Megan have a girlfriend?

I dunno. I guess you could ask her, although she has a delightfully venomous tongue. When she's not here she's usually posting over at The Pit as Cancer Marney.

Q: What do you call a person who hates Bush and hates homosexuals?

Bart: The kind of guy who'd keep pointing out that Cheney has a lesbian daughter. Seem to remember him being important to the Democrats awhile ago, can't remember his name.

We'll always have Paris , or was it Cleveland ?

That's a glorious set up for a Cleveland Steamer joke, but I don't have the guts to touch it!

I think you just did. EHHHHH Beavis, you just said "touch it"

I wish Cheney's daughter would bitch slap Kerry.

Sortelini: The kind of guy who'd keep pointing out that Cheney has a lesbian daughter.

Nooo, sorry. The correct answer is Pat Buchanan. We would have also accepted A member of the Reform Party or Islamofascists.

Well I thought both Edwards and kerry brought up Cheney's daughter too, maybe it was an halucination. But Cheney's daughter can kick Buchanon's isolationist nutts

... Sean Connery was right about you, Trebek!!! *shakes his fist*

At The Pit, ay?
It looks like an odd forum. What's it theme, it's reason for existence?

...It's not like I'm stalking Megan, or anything like that...

They both did, John, but Bart's right. For full on homophobia you've got to go to the Buchananite kooks and those fans of Sharia Law.

Does Megan know Cheney's daughter ? Do they hang out at the Lesbiana club ?

Yep Buchanon I think is just a weee bit anti-semetic. , he reminds me of the America firsters pre ww2. Not my favorite conservative.

Dammit! Megan has a lot of questions to answer. We want to know more about this enigma known as The Megan

Yeh i'm gonna be having some wierd girl on girl dreams tonight and its yer fault.

Do not question my "patriotism"!