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November 03, 2005
French Vow No Surrender in Quagmire War Against Suburban InsurgentsSo they've ruled out surrenderez. Trouble is, like the Eskimos having 40 words for "snow," the French language has over 600 close synonyms for "surrender," "roll over," "appease," or "jump on a table and shriek like a little girl having a conniption," so ruling out just one of those words really doesn't mean much. Once upon a time Beirut was called the Paris of the Middle East. Now Paris is Beirut on the Seine. posted by Ace at 08:43 PM
CommentsSo, if they've ruled out surrender, which direction do you think they'll flee? Posted by: Al on November 3, 2005 08:44 PM
Of course the French won't surrender. The question is: when will the French start to collaborate? Posted by: Slim on November 3, 2005 08:59 PM
"Beirut on the Seine," huh? Should I demand royalties? ;-) Eh, nonetheless, it's accurate. An obvious metaphor. Posted by: Barry on November 3, 2005 09:02 PM
I think the most amazing sentence in that article is this one: "Since then, they have spread, first to neighbouring suburbs and finally to every compass point around the French capital." Last news article I read, the riots were confined to cites to the north and west of Paris. Now it's all over the place? That's real news. Why isn't this getting more news coverage? (He asks, knowing the answer already) Posted by: Steven Den Beste on November 3, 2005 09:23 PM
Steve! How the heck are you doing? I hope all is reasonably well. (just some fan asking). Posted by: joeindc44 on November 3, 2005 09:30 PM
They will surrender. Muslims account for 10% of the French population, the French are clearly outnumbered. Posted by: scott on November 3, 2005 09:38 PM
Lessee, they can integrate their society, or kill and deport all the troublemakers. Oh, it's a cliffhanger. Posted by: lauraw on November 3, 2005 10:03 PM
I just finished watching a Simpsons' episode where Lisa is Jon of Arc. At the dinner table she states to the family that she must lead the french to victory against the English. Homer then exclaims, "We don't have a word (in french) for victory". Doh! Posted by: kaos on November 3, 2005 11:12 PM
All kidding aside, the French are supposed to have a pretty decent army - where the heck is it? What are they waiting for before they declare martial law? Posted by: BattleofthePyramids on November 3, 2005 11:45 PM
I bet they switched all of their industry to white cloth production already. Posted by: on November 3, 2005 11:49 PM
the French are supposed to have a pretty decent army - where the heck is it? I agree with the question but differ in its meaning. What kind of uncommitted force do you think France can muster? Posted by: VRWC Agent on November 3, 2005 11:56 PM
This isn't necessarily all bad. I remember being a kid in southeast Michigan while entire neighborhoods in Detroit were being burned down by rioters. It was a wake up call for everyone. We knew that something fundamental had to change. Maybe the French will stumble onto the same conclusion. Posted by: Michael on November 4, 2005 12:39 AM
The french have one decent legion, but it's full of non-french, and can't be used within france. Posted by: err head on November 4, 2005 06:21 AM
This isn't necessarily all bad All bad? It's all Good! The only way these pukes were ever going to learn was by a 2x4 applied to the head. I'm not surprised by any of this including the lack of media coverage to what is building into a potential meltdown of the French way of life. Posted by: JackStraw on November 4, 2005 07:30 AM
By the way, who gets worse ethnic stereotyping than "French Muslims"? What do they do, launch surrender attacks? Or, as they prefer to call them, "collaboration operations." Posted by: Bob Hawkins on November 4, 2005 10:55 AM
This "Islamification" isn't just happening in France. The media loves to ignore it because it's a religion. I wrote an article about the how far the murder has reached in just the last 12 months: We are drowning in murders and Islamification. Know what our government is doing to combat this? Our government is striving to be inclusive of Islam in this big American group-hug of all-inclusion we've learned to secularly develop. Our government is worrying about violating Islamic murderers civil rights. Our government is supporting the establishment of Islamic religious centers here in America (3,000 and counting). Our government is wringing their hands over "respecting" Islam. our government fears "offending" muslims. Our government is trying to win this war by "spreading democracy" and making intellectual-sounding pontifications. We did not beat Hitler with pontifications. Islam has NEVER been defeated - only pushed back, temporarily. They were never pushed back by "including" them. They were never pushed back by "respecting Islam." They were never pushed back by worrying about their civil rights. Islam was only ever pushed back WHEN WE WERE KILLING THEIR ASSES. A politically correct approach will not work with Islam. Read my link above. Elsewhere on that page are links to articles I wrote about the crusades and sharia law. If we think we're winning because we can make moral-sounding arguments, then history has taught us nothing. On this present course, we are losing this war. That's not a "loser" position. It is a frank assessment of our chances using the current strategy. When our government gives aid and support to the enemy, we're guaranteed to lose. Islam is a disease - a rabid dog. You don't make friends with it. You don't help it spread. You don't respect it. You quarantine the disease and KILL it. Posted by: William Thrash on November 4, 2005 11:58 AM
France is in trouble because its government and citizens refused to integrate immigrant muslims within their communities. In the early 70s muslims began entering France to work and fundamentalism was low. In the last 10 years, however, after most major factories employing muslims shuttered, fundamentalism and a movement in the islamic community to "return to muslim sensibility" grew and in the last week exploded. Now France is in deep shit. I think Bush was right to reach out to muslim leaders in the U.S. and elsewhere. We don't have the same challenges in the U.S. regarding a en masse loss of muslim jobs and so we can still "work" with muslims here to turn away from fundamentalism. I can't predict if this will stop 10 homegrown terrorists, but I know not doing so will definitely increase the odds my subway car will blow up one day. Posted by: ChrisG on November 4, 2005 12:51 PM
No retreat no surrender is the french chicken showing some backbone? Posted by: spurwing plover on November 5, 2005 11:17 PM
"I remember being a kid in southeast Michigan while entire neighborhoods in Detroit were being burned down by rioters." You make it sound like that was a BAD thing. In Detroit, that's called "Urban Renewal." :-) Posted by: Wonderduck on November 6, 2005 01:12 PM
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