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October 04, 2005

Washington State Proposed Law Would Require Leaving One Room In Your Home Without Heat

Update/Correction! Feisty Republican Whore suspected this was a satire. Turns out she was right. The "proposed law" discussed below was actually a spoof put forward by someone fed up with Seattle's nanny-statism.

Thanks to Paul for straightening out that loose shit.

Still... I think the rant is funny.

ORIGINAL POST FOLLOWS:

Energy Nazis.

It's a weird thing. Somehow the various liberal erogenous zones -- the Rousseauian nonsense about man in his natural state, goofball theories about Indians, and Gaia-worship -- came together to make the use of energy sinful in the liberal mind.

Nevermind all the electricity liberals use writing goofy shit on-line, running strobe lights at raves, filling their pot-closets with UV light, keeping their meth lab warehouse lofts at a comfortable 72 degrees, making art-house short films deviant group sex with monkeys, indulging in ridiculously over-the-top cliches, etc.

At the hear of this silliness is a basic belief in magic. Yes, magic. The Reality-Based Community apparently believes they can supply the world with all the energy they need by tapping the greatest alternative energy source their is -- Love -- and building beautiful bicycle paths from Chicago to New York to cut down on all that wasted jet fuel.


posted by Ace at 12:33 PM
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But wouldn't the heat from the other rooms just sort of flow to the cold room?
Or, do they mean without any heat? As in 0 degrees Kelvin?
Because, frankly, that would be a tremendous undertaking.

But, nothing has stopped the eco-libs from passing a fatwa, why should the laws of thermodynamics?

Posted by: Zorachus on October 4, 2005 12:44 PM

I hate energy Nazis almost as much as I hate Illinois Nazis.

Almost.

Posted by: Sean M. on October 4, 2005 12:47 PM

Dude, it's all about the magic.
When we were just about to invade Iraq, I remember one moonbat saying that all the 'peace-loving' people were going to visualize a huge dust storm rising out of the desert, that would push back the American forces and stop the war.
Really.
Perhaps if they all got together and exhaled their bong-hits at once, the cloud would stone the troops and...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe on October 4, 2005 12:48 PM

The Libs show their true stripes.

They will tell where where you are(are not) allowed to drill for oil. They will tell you to remove a dam from a river. They will tell you that you can not build anymore nuclear power plants.

But, in the infatile quest to build a Eutopian society they don't take real world issues into consideration. It never occurs to them that we might run out of energy. Even though they prohibit and restrict our ability to create such energy.

Posted by: on October 4, 2005 12:52 PM

I would say that sounded like a law proposed by a fifth grader, but I think that would be insulting to 10 year-olds. You have to (snort) empty the room, seal it up , and have it notarized that it is "closed."

Posted by: carin on October 4, 2005 12:53 PM

Please be removing the panties from the uproar.

This was (One of many) nut-job ballot Initiatives that failed to get the 228K+ signatures needed to go anywhere. We once had one to ban the use of electricity if it was generated by a coal fired power plant. It's the left coast. You just become numb to someone trying this crap.

The list of proposed initiatives is: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/initiatives/people.aspx

The ones that actually made the ballot is:
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/initiatives/signatures2005.aspx


On a more technical level, unless you have electric baseboard heat (Which IS popular out here) this would do next to nothing. Sealig a forced air vent at the room diverts so little airflow to other rooms is pretty much useless. The backpressure coupled with the fact most duct runs aren't properly sealed just pumps the air into the wall viods. You really need to close a damper where the rooms like takes off the distribuion trunk. Of course, no on has those and the few people who do drywalled over them long ago.

Posted by: Ryan on October 4, 2005 12:57 PM

"Magic"....Does this use of this phrase mean that Ace is preparing us for a series of "Magic: The Gathering" posts?

Seems like a natural progression from D&D geek to quasi D&D card playing geek.

Posted by: Jack M. on October 4, 2005 01:03 PM

Zorachusus:

You are right but Washington has thought of that.

Included in this new law is an order suspending the law of physics concerning thermal defusion.

Posted by: Jake on October 4, 2005 01:04 PM

What would Nero Do? (WWND?)

He'd grab a bunch of the anti-nuclear people, slather them in congealed biodiesel fuel, string them up on the street poles, then fire'em up at dark to save electricity for streetlighting. Let's start with Amory Lovins.

Not that I would EVEN advocate such a thing. It's such a waste of used corn oil.

Seriously, people REALLY need to get busy with building more nuclear power plants. And maybe building a few LNG terminals too, although the gas is going to run out shortly also.

Posted by: Whitehall on October 4, 2005 01:05 PM

What Ryan said. And further, if Ace would actually do some basic research, rather than just linkwhoring other blogs, he would have found that this was an initiative to the people, rather than a more normal legislative bill, that the initiative had one sponsor who may or may not be a liberal who believes in magic, and that it never received enough signatures to actually make it to the ballot as a proposed law.

But Ace has always preferred arguing with liberal strawpersons to actual liberals.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:12 PM

So, vK, if your silly-ass ideas get laughed out of the public forum, we're the only people not allowed to make fun of them?

I can't figure how it works that if your ideas are so stupid the public rejects them then we don't get to point and laugh at you.

Posted by: spongeworthy on October 4, 2005 01:21 PM

Sponge - That silly idea was not mine, it belongs to:
Mr. Mark Horan
505 S 325th St, #22A
Federal Way, WA 98003
(253)835-1178

Perhaps you should call him and find out if he's a liberal and how many people signed his petition in a failed attempt to put this silliness on the ballot.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:27 PM

"But Ace has always preferred arguing with liberal strawpersons to actual liberals."

You can't argue with liberals. They have neither core values or ideas for us to challenge. Once we drill through the thin veneer of talking points you guys like to spout, there's nothing there.

Posted by: BrewFan on October 4, 2005 01:29 PM

Given that Gore/Lieberman received 1,247,652 Washingtonian votes in 2000 and that this silliness failed to receive the 224,880 signatures required to get on the ballot it would appear that the vast majority of Washington liberals failed to think as magically as you would wish. But do carry on with your faith based reasoning anyway.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:32 PM

Brew - I believe that I have answered every request for substantive policy ideas. Certainly there are some liberals, as there are some of any group of humans, who have no core values or ideas, and like any group of humans there are some who are unfocused on their values and ideas. But to make the kind of blanket statement you and many here make about all liberals is facile, self-serving, and lazy.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:35 PM

It's not clear to me that Ace was wrong in anything he said, as long as you take 'proposed law' in the lay sense rather than the terminology of the WA state legislative process.

Posted by: geoff on October 4, 2005 01:36 PM

"But to make the kind of blanket statement you and many here make about all liberals is facile, self-serving, and lazy."

Hey, I don't do this for a living.

Posted by: BrewFan on October 4, 2005 01:37 PM

It's how he...how does he put it..."surrounds the story". This is not a proposed law, it is a proposed initiative to the people. If it got the required 224,880 signatures it would have become an initiative to the people and could then be called a proposed law, but it never made it to that stage. Further, this was not a law proposed by liberal state legislators as one would expect from the headline and resulting froth, but rather a proposal from one guy who lives in Federal Way. The frothing about liberal stripes being revealed and liberal magical thinking simply don't hold up under that reality of the proposed initiative.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:40 PM

vK:

He's certainly painting with a brush of indeterminate size, but there is unquestionably a segment of the liberal populace who would be entirely deserving of his criticism. These types of fringe elements are important in defining the character of the Left, since they seem to have a disproportionate influence on the center and direction of the Democratic Party.

[Not that the Right doesn't have its own fringe elements.]

Posted by: geoff on October 4, 2005 01:47 PM

Geoff - Yes, every group has its embarassing relations, but I disagree that the weird left has much influence on the Dems, else we'd see actual Dem Congresspeople proposing that we all live in geothermally heated yurts while doing Peyote to better commune with the spirits of the Native Americans we slaughtered and such.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 01:50 PM

"Yes, every group has its embarassing relations"

You're telling me! I had an uncle who used to thread his trouser trout through a hole in his pocket and then invite people to help him get his keys out of his pocket! He was a liberal too!

Posted by: BrewFan on October 4, 2005 01:56 PM

Oh great, I get to be the fucking killjoy again:

I-907, which proposed energy conservation measures such as leaving one room unheated in Seattle-area homes with at least three bedrooms, was actually meant as a joke, sponsor Mark Horan said. Fed up by a King County plan to limit the use of rural lands, Horan of Federal Way said he dreamed up his proposal as a jab at those who offer overreaching regulations.

The Olympian, 10/4/05

Posted by: Paul Zrimsek on October 4, 2005 02:01 PM

Brewfan...was this uncle of yours named vonKreedon?

Because that would really be an embarrassing relative to have.

Posted by: Jack M. on October 4, 2005 02:03 PM

There you go, all that straw froth over a conservative joke.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 02:04 PM

This isn't exactly the first time a Modest Proposal has been mistaken for the real thing. Ask Bill Bennett.

Posted by: Paul Zrimsek on October 4, 2005 02:09 PM

I had an uncle who used to thread his trouser trout through a hole in his pocket and then invite people to help him get his keys out of his pocket!

So why did it take you fifteen minutes to get the keys?

Posted by: Michael on October 4, 2005 02:32 PM

Sheesh, I wish I had, ya know, readers to help me fact-check. I looked and looked for satirical evidence and couldn't find it. It has that "just plausible enough" factor to it.

Wait, Ace just linked to my bunk-ass post! I have readers now! Cool!

Posted by: Feisty on October 4, 2005 02:36 PM

Feisty - You could have for instance called Mr. Horan, or at the least noted that this was a proposed initiative, not a proposed law, and that was proposed by one person, and that it failed to get the required signatures to become an initiative to the people.

Posted by: vonKreedon on October 4, 2005 02:42 PM

So why did it take you fifteen minutes to get the keys?

Because he said, "never mind that sausage, keep looking for the keys!".

Posted by: BrewFan on October 4, 2005 02:44 PM

A-OOO-GAAA

Honk honk!

Lauraw, Brewfan, VonK and Dave in Texas ride in together on a single unicycle, making funny faces at Ace and squirting seltzer at him.

The children laugh.
Oh, they do laugh at the silly man who is all wet.

Posted by: lauraw on October 4, 2005 03:02 PM

Well, Ace linked to me, and I got this from someone else. We're all at fault. We all corrected ourselves. All is happy in happy-town.

Did I tell you guys about all the giant mice I saw at Chuck E Cheese? I'm never eating there again.

Posted by: Feisty on October 4, 2005 03:07 PM

Chancing that this is a spring awakening for my fact-checking!

Posted by: ace on October 4, 2005 03:09 PM
Posted by: Dave in Texas on October 4, 2005 03:26 PM

This characterization of Libs as Gaia-worshiping Luddites may be false, but I believe it's accurate.

Posted by: Dan Rather on October 4, 2005 03:36 PM

And while they make these rediclous laws they will still have every room in the state capital and city hall heated up to 75 or 80 just like any of these privlaged political hacks

Posted by: spurwing plover on October 4, 2005 09:49 PM

Sadly we on the conservative side have to deal with our own nuttery, now in the form of an Indiana state senator (Patricia Miller - R) who has sponsored a bill to require women who need medical assistance in conceiving a child to be married.

[H/T to Vodkapundit.]

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