Maybe he was just a big fan of Tom Hanks?

I'm going to hazard a guess here before all the facts are in:

This dude was a jihadist as much as Dylan Klebold was a Nazi. Both were really confused, screwed-up kids with that serial-killer-in-training kind of disposition.

Like a Viking... er... Like a Norway Rat.

"Northeast Intelligence Network" are a bunch of raving loons. They're "Elvis lives in Area 51" crazy.

"ratman sodomy"........ it's just like regular sodomy, but with 50% more body hair involved.

I'm waiting to see about the found 'Jihadist materials' as well. (I'm from OKC, just north of Norman, OK).

The suicide bomber did have a scruffy, spoiled white kid, Jihadist beard, however, so I won't be too surprised if the rumor is true.

You don't find bomb-making diagrams and such in the Farm Journal.

Eh, maybe, but I doubt it. I saw the interview with his father, saw the picture of his brothers. They looked pretty normal to me (yes, he had the beard in that pic). The pic out on the web is a horrid one that really makes him look bad. His father sounded most believable when he said his son was not politcally motivated; just 'lost.' He was a loner three years into school, an engineer geek, and had not socialized very well.

To quote from the father's interview

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5047816/detail.html

"Hinrichs' father, Joel Hinrichs, Jr., said he's confident his son didn't intend to harm anyone and wasn't motivated by a political agenda.

"He was pretty disengaged from politics," the father said Monday in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "And he took the care to select an open area where there was no one around."

His son also had an interest in explosives, Hinrichs said.

"Every little boy does that," he said. "He went a little further than most."

Hinrichs said his son did not leave a suicide note and that FBI agents told him hydrogen peroxide was used to construct the bomb. On Sunday, FBI investigators searched the younger Hinrichs' Norman apartment and his family home in Colorado Springs, Colo.

As a father, Hinrichs said he wants to believe that the explosion was an accidental death, but said the evidence clearly points to suicide.

"He was checking out," Hinrichs said."

I live a stone's throw from his apartment. I can see the stadium from my house (and I make sweet sweet parking money from all the Sooner football fan's cars 6 times a year). If he was a terrorist wannabe he would not have walked over to the South Oval to kill people. He had to walk past a major party corner (O'Connells) or a major tailgating area (Duck pond) that is filled with drunken party people. Why not set the bomb off at any one of those packed spots? Why go to an empty spot?

Yes, he lives near an mosque/Isamic center but then so do I…and there is a catholic church that is just as close.

I don't buy the claim at this point in time.

Could be wrong of course.

This&That

OTOH, ratmen love David Hasselhoff. Known fact. I heard Tom Mintier report that on CNN, I think.

As a father, Hinrichs said he wants to believe that the explosion was an accidental death, but said the evidence clearly points to suicide.

?!?!? The father wants an "incompetent bomb maker" legacy for the son rather than a garden variety depressed suicide?

Oh wait - a lot of life insurance policies don't pay off on suicides...

Where's Allah to call them "the world's most alarmist website"?

PA, I think most states say policies can have a waiting period on suicide (2 years) then kick in, reason being most folks who are suicidal don't plan it 2 years out.

More rumor and scuttlebutt:
Jim Hartline a student at the University of Oklahoma, who lives near the area and went over to see the site of the explosion for himself, has been asking around...

I was talking to a businessman the other day who mentioned to me what his friend, who happens to own a farm store, told him. Basically, this kid came into a feed store a couple of weeks ago and tried to buy all of the fertilizer in the store. All of it. Of course, the storeowner was entirely too smart to let him do it, and once the kid left he called the FBI.

Apparently the FBI has been right on his tracks since then, always one step behind.

If that actaully happened, then this kid was bent on a little more than self-destruction.

I also heard throught the grapevine, several times removedrfom an original source, that this kid had some deeply felt and somewhat nutty antiwar political feelings in line with that "RAYBIN" kos kid (who got some attention the other day, having expressed an opion that rivers of blood needed to flow to effect a healthy change in America's political outlook.)

"Apparently the FBI has been right on his tracks since then, always one step behind" should have been included in the blockquote.

S.

Will SOMEONE please:

STOP.FUCKING.WITH.THE.FILTERS

Now the letter D followed by a space then the letters B and E is getting zapped.

I hope that's not true. If the FBI knew that some punk kid was trying to make bombs and they couldn't stop him, then that doesn't say too much about their competence.

Hey Ace, I know you weren't interested when I sent this to you when it first happened, but it's getting better. Local CBS affiliate News 9 in OKC just did a report this afternoon that his room mate was Pakistani, he tried to buy ammonium nitrate before his death and their sources identify him as being seen at the Islamic center that's located just a block from his apartment. It's the same Islamic center that Nick Berg used to hang out in before he got his head sawed off in Iraq.

Just a coincidence I guess.

If anybody is interested in the OU bomber story that's about all I've been covering since Saturday.

RE: NEIN, black helicopter crowd, but even a stopped watch is right once in awhile.

I heard on the radio the other night that they pulled tons of "bomb making material" out of his apartment. Enough that it took them all day. I can't find confirmation though, so I'm still unsure.

Of course I could just put a call into Ray Nagin and get him to certify that he had enough material to blow up "ten thousand football stadiums" and then get Wolf Blitzer to report it. Then I'd have all the confirmation I needed.

8:01am

?!?!? The father wants an "incompetent bomb maker" legacy for the son rather than a garden variety depressed suicide?

Uh, Purple, I think that a parent would rather not think of his own child as having voluntarily taken his own life, leaving them with questions like "what did we do?" It's much better to think that your kid wanted to live and was just unlucky.

A lot of the quotes from the father seem "odd".

O/T, but my blog got a mention on the local news. They did a segment on blogger reaction to the bombing.

It's much better to think that your kid wanted to live and was just unlucky.

*snort* Sure.

If he "wanted to live", then what might he have had planned for that bomb? Run down that line of thought for a while and let us know how you make out.

I've never heard of anyone "casually" taking their bombs out for a walk like you would a dog.

I think I could live with the ordinary suicide scenario a lot easier than knowing I'd raised a terrorist/bomber/anarcho-freak. Unless the father was himself a terrorist/bomber/anarcho-freak in which case the suicide scenario would indeed be a disgrace.

I'll admit to having a "keen interest in explosives".

Hell, by the time I was 8 years old I'd absorbed everything there was in the Encyclopedia Britanica chapter on explosives. Growing up rural give you a lot of time to do things like absorb encyclopedias. The kids in town were all busy drinking, getting in trouble, or drowning themselves(while drunk) in one of the many local lakes.

Lets face it, in a controlled environment they can be a LOT of fun AND quite a labor saving technology. Blowing stumps, trenching in soggy ground where you don't dare try getting a backhoe in, shattering inconvenient large rocks, etc. These are all vastly entertaining and useful applications.

By the tender age of 12 I was well versed in the proper handling of cyanides and acids too. Growing up with the family in the electroplating business is not the normal path of child development I suppose, but it was an education in heavy industry and "dangerous shit" that few tykes ever get and I count myself very lucky for having experienced it.

However --- not once have I ever considered strapping on a bomb and taking it for an evening stroll like this guy did.

The local news reported this morning that the kid tried to by the "bombing" fertilizer a few days before the bombing. The clerk said he did not have any and the kid was not interested in any of the other types. There apparently was an undercover cop/FBI(?) guy at the store at the time, he heard the conversation & went out to record the kid's car's tag number.

No comment from the cops on that.

FBI said that there is no evidence that this kid is linked to terrorist or extreamist groups.

Now OU is going to search each and every backpack/purse that goes into the games.

And no one is going to be allowed to leave at half-time (and come back in) so that should piss off all the beer-sellers.

This&That

The "tried to buy Ammonium Nitrate" story is apparently correct. Here's a link to local coverage

More rumors:

The "very serious personal problems" referred to by Boren is said to be girl trouble

five other unexploded devices have been discovered,

there was a sizable cache of explosives found in Hinrich's apartment

Hinrich's Pakistani roommate is missing.

... it's just like regular sodomy, but with 50% more body hair involved.

I thought that was just Andrew and his 'bear'.

Well, there IS a Pakistani roomate, who has a name, and he did frequent the nearby mosque. Article doesn't say where this fellow is now, but he wasn't "missing" at the time of the blast, because he and a couple of other mulsim guys were taken into custody shortly after the blast (and later released.)

The Daily Oklahoman (registration required) reports:

The FBI has reviewed surveillance tapes, interviewed acquaintances and checked Hinrichs’ purchases.

The FBI also looked at possible ties to Islamic groups after learning Hinrichs’ roommate is from Pakistan, attended a nearby mosque and worked for the OU athletics department, The Oklahoman has learned.

Hinrichs and the roommate, Fazal M. Cheema, a finance major, lived together only a few months at Parkview Apartments.

Cheema and three other Muslim students were led, handcuffed, from a party by police after the blast, said Ashraf Hussein, president of the Muslim Student Association. They later were released.

Cheema is “a really, really nice guy,” Hussein said. Cheema could not be reached for comment.

Hinrichs dad said “Joe would have become a Muslim fanatic when pigs fly", but frankly I can see him trying to fit in somewhere, to win friends and influence people with his mad skillz at bombmaking.

Maybe he just wanted to off himself, but I'm not sure I buy that simple explanation, since he tried to buy a large quantity of ammonium nitrate. At the least, even if you exclude any sort of ideology behind his asplodification, I think he wanted to take a few others with him into eternity.

...said to be girl trouble...

Was said girl at the game?

That would fit well with my false-flag op theory if she was.

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