I question modern journalists and their way of reporting news to the public. Why do they have to show pictures of horror, suffer, and pain? Is not it enough words to describe these scenes?
Why traumatize people and children displaying these pictures? Are they thinking about the consequences of their reportage on the public, who might not be able to handle it?
Do they, actually, respect memory of people, who departed their life in such way? Do they know how many people, who did not have any connection with these events, suffered psychological disorders, and take to account children?

Angelique,

Before I answer, can I ask if you want the bodies from Katrina shown on TV?

Why do they have to show pictures of horror, suffer, and pain?

If it bleeds it leads.

If it bleeds and you can blame it on Bush use a larger font and it goes above the fold.

Media == $5 crack whores

No. It is self-explanatory.

Oh jesus, I hate that picture..., that particular one. Brings it all back full force. (Which is why I know it needs to be shown.)

So what is it in the journalists minds that says its bad to inflame the passions of the American people against a foreign enemy, but good to inflame them against their own government?

We know the answer.

Good Reagan quote. I like this one from Rudy Giuliani's October 1, 2001 speech to the United Nations:

Freedom from Fear is a basic human right. We need to reassert our right to live free from fear with greater confidence and determination than ever before…here in New York City…across America…and around the World. With one clear voice, unanimously, we need to say that we will not give in to terrorism.

Surrounded by our friends of every faith, we know that this is not a clash of civilizations; it is a conflict between murderers and humanity.

This is not a question of retaliation or revenge. It is a matter of justice leading to peace. The only acceptable result is the complete and total eradication of terrorism.

New Yorkers are strong and resilient. We are unified. And we will not yield to terror. We do not let fear make our decisions for us.

We choose to live in freedom.

Damn right.

Thanks Ace.

We are unified. And we will not yield to terror.

"we" != NYT staff

Hey, Ace:

Are those threads on that website where you went nuts on them post 9/11 and were banned still available? I'd love to see you really really go off on a bunch of asshats. Usually, you exhibit alot of restraint. It would be fun to see you let loose. :)

Ace was banned somewhere? When?

Right after 911. He was kicking lefty ass big time and obviously the little girly men couldn't take it anymore.

Awesome. Where was this?

Moonbats calling for a body display: PRAVDA IN PARADISE

------- My email response -------

Dear Dan,

Why wasn't it important after 9/11 for us to see these dead? USA Today and the NYC authorities estimated that about *200* people jumped that day.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/jumper11.jpg

What about them Dan? What about them?

The Tsunami generated thousands of victims - I can't recall a single call from you at the time to "show me the bodies".

Any major air disaster generates a couple of hundred bodies too - again, you are consistently silent in calling for a body display.

Surely you have a reasonable explanation for this apparent disconnect in content policy -- otherwise one might be tempted to accuse you of blatant political hackery.

Rather than seeing the bodies, I'm more interested in seeing YOUR EXPLANATION.

If you really feel people need to see dead bodies, send'em to http://www.o.g.r.i.s.h.com there's more gore and dead bodies there (fully categorized!) than most people will be able to handle.

O.G.R.I.S.H has Katrina victims now too! Enjoy, make your political hay.

[a list of katrina victims pics from O.G.R.I.S.H was inserted here]

Go ahead - print this stuff. I fucking dare you to. Your readers CAN'T HANDLE IT.

Tony Ingenoso
Lake Worth

Eh. I forgot. I probably could find the post but it would be much nicer if ace would just fucking tell us. OTOH, there may be a privacy issue, and I can respect that.

The Reagan and Giulinani quotations are excellent. But frankly, the authors of the 9/11 Commission Report said it best (page 362):

"... Usama Bin Laden and other Islamist terrorist leaders draw on a long tradition of extreme intolerence .... Bin Ladin and Islamist terrorists mean exactly what they say: to them America is the font of all evil, the 'head of the snake,' and it must be converted or destroyed.

"It is not a position with which Americans can bargain or negotiate. With it there is no common ground - not even respect for life - on which to begin a dialogue. It can only be destroyed or utterly isolated."

Re: My banning

No, I don't think they're available. I've looked for some old stuff on the forums I used to terrorize and I didn't see too much available.

One thing I was sad to see go was the Fray (slate's chat site) Election campaign, where I and a couple of other lunkheads ran for forum president.

It was funny fuckin' stuff. I ran on an anti-immigrant platform, promising to keep annoying interenational types off the site. My pitch was, "From time immemorial, foreigners have dreamed of the 'streets of gold' of the American internet, and if I'm elected, I'll keep it that way-- a dream, and only a dream."

I think I lost to von f'n' Kreedon.

WHo ran on a platform of boring earnest liberalism, not realizing that it was, you know, a joke.

Oh, and my platform was something about being both pro-family values and pro-deviant sex and prostitution.

I think it was a American Family Values Happy Sex program.

pro-family values and pro-deviant sex and prostitution.

Well, I'm pretty certain you would have gotten Tom Sizemore's vote...

It was funny fuckin' stuff. I ran on an anti-immigrant platform, promising to keep annoying interenational types off the site. My pitch was, "From time immemorial, foreigners have dreamed of the 'streets of gold' of the American internet, and if I'm elected, I'll keep it that way-- a dream, and only a dream."

Can I hump your leg for a moment? I'd send the RNC a check today if Bush would say that in a speech.

Not to piss on the fun going on here, but I wanted to say in response to the Reagan quote at the end of the post, that perhaps it was because they had been children in the WWII days, that Americans in the '50's and '60's were willing to go and fight in Korea and Viet Nam. Or, more appropriately, to go fight in Korea and to send THEIR children to Nam. And that was the crux of my comment, that the Viet Nam generation was too far removed, by one generation, from having participated in the 'all hands' defence of freedom by every working American in the '40's, when the threat to our very existance was very real. Had we not stopped the Japanese forces in the South Pacific, our West coast would be a very different place right now, and every resident of said coast knew it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

To todays youth, the WOT is often a philosophical exercise about economics and colonialism. Except of course for those who volunteer and serve. THEY get it. Trust me. I have two boys in the USMC, and about a half dozen other local Marines whom they drag home when on leave.