Thanks for the link. I get it too, just makes me angry. Defending America's enemies should be treason.

Anything, anything AT ALL, that keeps money out of the hands of the ACLU is a Good Thing.

I agree, if we get enough organizations that contribute to them to draft up similar provisions, they could go broke. I wonder how long before the national ACLU follows suit on this one?

By turning down money to avoid complying with counterterrorism measures, it looks to me like the ACLU is silently admitting that they support terrorism. Am I interpreting this correctly or am I way off the mark?

Supporting the rights of 'political' Nazis to march and speak is different from assisting a Nazi who ran a death camp from imprisonment, etc.

Speaking of funding questionable enterprises, anyone notice that Ace is being sponsored by the United Nations? Isn't that weird? (Actually it looks like the UN Foundation is the "political arm" of the UN)

No wonder he's so soft and squishy and ooey-gooey about Kofiquiddick. He's a cutout for UN propaganda.

I know its early, but shouldn't the headline say "Anti"-Terrorism?

when I think about the United Way, I think about Goodwill Industries helping retarded citizens with job training and independent living, or the Red Cross helping disaster victims and military families who need to communicate with loved ones deployed overseas. WTF would they even be considering helping underwrite a group like the ACLU?????

The United Way is an extortion racket, plain and simple. They approach corporations, flattering CEOs about the PR benefits of sponsorship; CEOs strong-arm rank-and-file employees for the cash; the UW skims fifteen percent off the top for its trouble and then doles out the rest to charities. You want to support Goodwill? Send them a check. They'll get 15% more than if you launder it through United Way, and you'll know the head of UW isn't driving a Merc on your dime.

As for the ACLU, we always cite their famous legal support for that KKK guy as an example of their rigorous fairness in supporting civil liberties. And it used to be true, I guess. They seem a hell of a lot more political and less hard-line now than they were then, though. I wonder if they'd stick up for the rights of the Klan in 2005?

I think everyone's too hard on the ACLU.

Think about it: they perform two useful services.

1. They are the much-vaunted "guardian of our liberties." Or at least some of them.

2. If someone is represented by the ACLU, that is irrefutable proof that the client is guilty as sin. Perhaps his legal position is correct, perhaps not; but you can't seriously argue that the client is anything more than technically innocent.

I think it's helpful to have such a clear and unambiguous marker for the total assholes of the world.

Fine. Starve the bastards of their funding. What in the hell is the United Way doing giving them money anyway?

Damn United Way - they actually fund a lot of important things here at home, but I started giving directly instead of channeling anything through those corrupt bastards.

I said "bastards" twice. Loose shit.

Terrorists, nazis, Rush Limbaugh.

All these lib groups give to each other. Its a nice in_cestous relationship they've got going.

Ace you gotta get the stupid filters to allow words like i-n-c-e-s-t. How else are we going to have cogent discussions of Cedaford's parentage?

Fine. Starve the bastards of their funding

Apparently they think they can get more from the terrorists, and they're probably right!

We all better pray for the ACLU, for in the grip of terrorists they could wreak havoc upon this country, as if they hadn't done enough already.

Terrorists, nazis, Rush Limbaugh.

Har. I've never heard that one before.

Haven't you guys updated the playbook yet?

Okay let's say for example your mom's pussy happens to be arab and she named you Hussan Ibrahim. Let's also say for example that there is an individual on the terrorist watch list by the same name. Because of this you are barred from flying. Now should Hussan #1 have legal representation? Let's say the ACLU decides to help this individual, they wouldn't be able to do if they lived by the United Way's restrictions. Get it? You are nothing but lucky that your mom's pussy was not Arab.

Who else thinks Thomas posted that common mostly so he could say "mom" and "pussy" together in the same sentence?

Oh please, Thomas posted on Ace's board, so the answer is obviously YES!

Thomas if you are trying to make a point at least have it follow logically.

You are nothing but lucky that your mom's pussy was not Arab.

No , I am lucky if my mom did not give me the same name as a terrorist.

72, if you pray for the ACLU, will they sue you? After all, they get taxpayer money.

And if they catch you praying for the President and our troops while on public property, watch out.

Hey Thomas, sometimes bad things just happen. For instance, some ignorant person may think that I look 'Arab,' and search me and my bags very thoroughly....VERY THOROUGHLY, while letting the blonde woman next to me go through unmolested.

That's what we call 'tough shit.'
Its a new day my dear.
I'd rather be insensitive and wrong and mean, than DEAD.
If you prefer sensitivity and accommodation and niceness to LIFE, that is your business.

But don't get cranky if we disagree and think that butching up is better.

Ah, lauraw, I love it when you talk tough.

I'm serious.

I'm not really like this.
I don't do this for a living.

Maybe you should.

I'm serious.

Seriously serious?

Yeah, seriously serious.

I mean, I'd pay you to talk tough to me.

Well, tough, and dirty.

The ACLU always brings up their defense of Nazis to show they are impartial. But the Nazis were socialists just as left-wing as Communists, many Democrats and terrorists.

The ACLU only defends the left-wing causes. The rest of us can go to hell.

No blonde woman goes through airport security unmolested.

And is it really butching up and being tough to acquiesce to indiscriminate government searches, or is true courage to be found among those who freely go about their daily business knowing there is a chance they could be killed at any moment? Kind of like riding the subway or marrying Robert Blake.

Rocketeer, if you get lauraw to talk tough and dirty to you, can I get the blonde that was sitting next to her?

Thomas, if my mom's Arab genitalia wasn't butchered, is she lucky?

lauraw

I pray that even the ACLU will come to know God and (as they used to say in the original old black and white Superman show which I have on video - its a hoot!) embrace the ways of "truth, justice and the American Way."

God knows we'd all be a lot better off if they did!

You're being too kind. It is 100% self-serving on the ACLU's part. The "about us" on their website says they are "our nation's guardian of liberty." Why is that incompatiable with not helping those whose intent is to topple liberty?

ACLU Says Non! to Anti-Terrorism Restrictions!

Since we can't stop genitalia from spawning identical names, I guess we need the ACLU to step in and make sure those lists are banned.

because that's the only way to tacke this problem.

I wonder if they help The John Smiths who have the same problem with mistaken identity?