Also, never mind that Clinton was president in 1999.

The Gorelick wall came in handy after all. It happened in 1999-2000 so going to be hard to blame Bush.

But maybe we will now find out what was in Sandy Berger's pants.

"Nevermind the fact that liberals erected this wall in the first place"

So, it is liberals fault for this?

Seldom mentioned is one big reason the Gorelick wall was erected in the first place: to prevent CIA disclosure to doemstic LE of foreign cash (primarily ChiCom) being funneled to the Clintons and their cronies as de-facto payments.

Hmm, Al Gore hadn't even 'won' the election when this happened, but Bush must be responsible...

Two observations.

First, I would be hypocritical if I didn't highlight that, yet again, this is a case of classified information being disclosed in the open. Unless someone can confirm that what Congressman Weldon spoke of has since been declassified but just ignored in the media, then it is illegal to have this information in the open-- *regardless* of whether or not I find the info interesting, or useful in supporting an argument I happen to believe in. Sorry, I'm a purist.

Second, big f'ing surprise. Bureaucracy prevented us from stopping terrorists before 9/11, bureaucracy prevented us from killing terrorists after 9/11 (RE: armed Predator having Bin Laden in sight).

Color me shocked.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Ace,

Off topic, but Planned Parenthood has taken down the video you linked. No explanation was given. It simply disappeared.

Gorelick's fatuous "wall" did contribute to a lot of information not being shared among agencies; stupid shit like this happens when you put know-nothing bureaucrats like Gorelick in charge of cops and spooks. But blame must also be laid on the thick headed turf-consciousness among federal agencies. The FBI is the worst of the lot; they will literally take information given to them in good faith by other feds and local police and then turn around and cut them out of the loop without so much as a thank you. It hasn't improved much since 9/11; the stakes are just higher. The FBI has taken some heat for it's bureaucratic inertia lately. But instead of fixing the problems, it just puts it's admittedly impressive PR machine to work.

Warden-- light goes on, they go scurrying to hide.

That's why I don't buy into Ace's "shadow media" thing. If anything, blogs are the "sunlight media," shining the bright light on things the regular media otherwise hides or ignores, willingly or otherwise. Stuff like offensive Planned Parenthood cartoons, heroes of the Iraq War, and funny LARP videos.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Sure Dave, but it just doesn't sound as cool. Actually, it sounds a bit gay... not that there's blah, blah, blah.

You are on point about the status of the information. What the fuck does it take to keep something secret? I think I might be willing to sacrifice Rove (not commenting on whether I believe he is guilty) if everybody else would get the f'n idea.

Since Hellary pushed Gorlick into the job and most likely pushed the regulation to built the wall to protect herself and Bill from federal prosocution, then that means that Hellary is really the one responsible for 9-11. She killed 3,000 people to prevent her crimes from becoming public. That sure is different from the dirt the lefties have been hauling around and spreading. LMAO
Will immediately get a message off to Sen. Frist requesting the 9-11 comission be recalled (minus gorlick) and they investigate this new revelation.

"You are on point about the status of the information. What the fuck does it take to keep something secret? I think I might be willing to sacrifice Rove (not commenting on whether I believe he is guilty) if everybody else would get the f'n idea."

In no way will sacrificing a Republican or conservative make a point to left-"liberals" about the importance of abiding by laws protecting governmental secrets. These are people who think they have pure motives (whatever a "pure motive" might be) and who expect their actions to be understood as either constitutionally protected or as morally defensible civil disobedience. Before they could relate to themselves anything that might happen to Rove, they'd first have to be reduced to thinking of themselves as being no better than him before the laws.

When I saw Jamie Georlick on the 911 committee, I turned purple with rage! It was well known at the time that she was responsible for erecting the wall to prevent information sharing which had done just that, and was now sitting on the committe to investigate it!

And of course the MSM glossed over all of it. If she had been a Republican she'd have been lynched by the media! Because of its importance, this is by far the most shameful cover up I ever saw.

GOD, HOW I HATE LIBERALS!!!

(I must pray for them.)

THOSE PAPERS THAT SANDY BERGER STUFFED DOWN HIS PANTS AND MADE AWAY WITH...COULD THEY HAVE BEEN PAPERS SHOWING NEGLIGENCE BY WILLIAM CLINTON IN THIS MATTER, COULD THEY BE PAPERS WHICH SHOWED THAT HE AND HIS ADMINISTRATION CHOSE TO IGNORE INFORMATION TO PASS FROM THE FBI TO THE CIA OR VICE VERSA?

Weldon said on Fox N Friends that the info on Atta and Co. came from "open" as opposed to classified sources. I think he was arguing that there should have been no restrictions on passing it from the military to law enforcement.

I doubt anything will come of this, as this all happened before Bush took office and only libs stand to take the fall. The media won't have any interest. Its taken 2 months for the Times to even mention it.

Seldom mentioned is one big reason the Gorelick wall was erected in the first place: to prevent CIA disclosure to doemstic LE of foreign cash (primarily ChiCom) being funneled to the Clintons and their cronies as de-facto payments.

Joe Mama

I've never heard that before but knowing what I know about Clinton it makes sense. I have no proof, but I've never had a doubt that he arranged for the bombling of the Chinese Embassy during the Bosnian war to draw attention away from the facts of his complicity in selling nuclear and missile technology to the Chicoms. The WSJ was beating the drum about the Chicoms that was beginning to be picked up by the MSM, the story was beginning to steamroll and even Bill couldn't stop it. So, to confuse the world about the "Chinese" angle, to distance us from them and make us appear uncaring about the Chinese, to make them appear unfriendly as they protested the bombing, and to "suck up all the oxygen" and divert attention in the press, he bombed their embassy. What are the odds that, of all the potential accidental bombing targets in the country, we just happened to accidentially bomb the embassy of the same country the First Felon was involved in a scandal that could have put him in prison? And I wouldn't be surprised if it the whole thing was their idea, either.

I always thought the Chinese Embassy bombing was intentional, too, but for a different reason.

It was right after we lost a stealth bomber or fighter in that conflict. It definitely crashed, and rumor had it that the Chinese were all over the wreckage and had grabbed it and that it was at the embassy. Not provable as far as I know, just rumors from the time. I gave Clinton the benefit of the doubt for a change on that one and optimistically hoped that they fragged the Chinese Embassy to wipe out the parts and the technicians examining them.

There's no proof of either theory, I guess, but even though I'm a hardcore conservative and don't like Clinton much, I hope it was either an accident or for the stealth plane reason, and not for the finances reason.

Although the finances theory is a little believable to me just because of the sheer amount of scandal from his time in office, it is a pretty thin probability and I doubt it. Appears to me more like something that a partisan [like me] would LIKE to be true so that it FEELS right and then you take that plunge into BELEIVING it. I'm sick of them doing that to us so I'm going to reject that theory unless I hear it proven somehow with credible evidence, personally. Even though it IS believable.

"When I saw Jamie Georlick on the 911 committee, I turned purple with rage! It was well known at the time that she was responsible for erecting the wall to prevent information sharing which had done just that, and was now sitting on the committe to investigate it!"

To be fair - and god do I hate to do that - Georlick did not build the wall. It was first erected (snicker) as a result of the Church Committee hearings (thank you Sen Lautenberg, you old lefty) and was slowly reinforced by CYA 'crats throughout the 80s. What Goerlick did was make it higher and wider, and then added a bit of broken glass on the top. Seriously, it was on her advice/orders that the wall grew far beyond what the lefty congress of the late 70s had mandated.

Having her on the 9/11 Comm. was like a sick joke.

Yes I know that the Church Committe erected the wall and said at the time it (along with many other measures like making it illegal to assasinate anyone no matter what) was gonna come back to bite us. But Goerlick made the wall much less pourous, and then sat there on the 911 Committe as if she had nothing to do with it. And it worked!

Even more astonishing, Weldon said 9/11 committee staff members were briefed on Able Danger, but committee members were not (he's still checking, hasn't spoken to all of them) - he did mention two committee Senators who said "never heard of it".

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Having her on the 9/11 Comm. was like a sick joke.

Yes it was, and I'm still surprised that she got away with it all! And it's beginning to smell like she will again, which forces me to say the Liberal Serenity Prayer:

God, grant me the serenity to accept the Liberals that I can't eradicate from public life,

The courage to eradicate those that I can,

And the Wisdom to know the difference.