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July 28, 2005

Steven Bochco's Over There: He Supports Our Dead-Ender, Defeatist, Sub-Moronic Psychopathic Troops

Cake or Death reviews his new show. There's no singing this time, but there's a lot of brutishness... on the part of our troops.

Steven Bochco can suck my cock.

This is the sort of glib liberal fool that Hollywood entrusts for this sort of project. No Donald Belasarius, no Steven J. Cannell.

And yes, I know Steven J. Cannell would have our troops assisted by cute robots and zooming around Baghdad in "Assault Ferraris," but shit, I'd still watch it.

Well, no I wouldn't. But I'd promote it.

A Contrary Take: Jessica, guest-posting at Alarming News, says it's actually a good show.

Hmmmm... not sure I care either way, unfortunately. I don't like "shows."


posted by Ace at 02:03 PM
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I talked to my libby anti-war friends and they loved it.

I'm downloading it as we speak. Let's hear it for the internets!

Posted by: Greg on July 28, 2005 02:26 PM

Didn't Bochco bring us "Cop Rock"?

On that basis alone, he should be jailed.

Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes on July 28, 2005 02:36 PM

What were you expecting? Something like "Blackhawk Down"? Sorry, but Ridley Scott doesn't do TV. Then again, after the sucky box office performance of "Kingdom of Heaven", Scott might start considering the small screen.

Posted by: kbiel on July 28, 2005 02:46 PM

Everything is Vietnam. Soldiers are dopes or baby-killers. Quagmire!! We get it hollywood. Unfortunately, you don't.

Posted by: brak on July 28, 2005 02:47 PM

I completely forgot to deconstruct the show's political content and subject its dialogue to a rigorous vetting for liberal bias or consider the broader ramifications of the mono-culture that describes much of Hollywood and the impact that has on art and entertainment. As a result of that lapse, I accidentally paid attention to the story, the performances and the cinematography, and thus enjoyed it.

I'll try to do better next time.

Posted by: planetmoron on July 28, 2005 04:20 PM

"I completely forgot to deconstruct the show's political content... and thus enjoyed it."

Yes, there are those who profess to enjoying "The West Wing," despite its vapid leftoid politics. Though, for the love of almighty God, I can't see how.

Posted by: Bob Didier's Mask on July 28, 2005 04:57 PM

I only saw a little more than half of it but I was struck by the fact that while our boys were enjoying defending themselves and killing the bad guys, the show ended on a very sour note for us; a truck of ours stumbled onto a roadside bomb which graphically blew the leg off of one of our heroes who would not stop screaming at the top of his lungs and tossing on the stretcher till he disappeared into the rising medivac chopper. So we were left to ponder (to the tune of some silly ass anti-war song) how after the fun and games; the reality of war had come home to our young, innocent boys, who had joined up for all sorts of different reasons, none of which had to do with fighting terrorists.

Posted by: 72 Knights of the Templar on July 28, 2005 06:27 PM

Give the show time, guys. I didn't think it was trying to slip in liberal peace-monkey crap about Iraq, just trying to show how chaotic and brutal combat is. The soldiers are all young and untested, not stupid or brutal (except for that one weird chick, maybe). And trust me, the Army has it's share of dipshit officers like that lieutenant and lowlifes like that pothead. That's not to say that the majority aren't noble or brave; they are. But if you're going for realism, you need to show a fighting force made up of real humans, not square-jawed cartoons.

Posted by: UGAdawg on July 28, 2005 10:07 PM

Worse -- is Battlestar Galactica going to go all moonbat on us this season?

"It stands to reason that in a show that's all about how we're all trying to survive this horrific attack by this inhuman enemy, that the thing that we're really exploring is not that threat from without, but how it turns itself inward and how it becomes insidious and internal, and how it begins to break us down from inside ourselves," [the executive producer] said. "And what better way to take that idea to the next level than to introduce another human being who, on the face of it, is going to help us defeat the Cylons, defeat that third outside enemy, once and for all, but in reality serves to only remind us once again that the biggest enemy is really us?"
If anyone knows any real spoilers, I'd love some confirmation and/or reassurance on this one (without actually spoiling me).

Posted by: someone on July 29, 2005 04:36 AM

They'd better not f*ck up Battlestar Galactica. I lovon TV e that show more than I've been into anything since the early days of the X-Files.

OK, Over There WASN'T THAT BAD.

Small goofs. One, the base in the beginning didn't look a damn thing like Fort Stewart.

Second, I ain't seen a Bradley yet, and the 3rd ID's infantry are all 11M's. The M is for Mechanized. Me, I'm an 11B, we're the light weapons guys.

On the weapons, 3rd ID mostly carries M16A4's, not M4 carbines. 20" barrel as opposed to 14.5". Better open country rifle. Also, they all have their laser designators in place, a mixed bag of PAQ-4C's and PEQ-2A's, but there isn't a single optical sight around except for dude's Trijicon ACOG, and no E2 is going to show up in country with one unless he dropped 1100 bucks and bought his own. Ditto them showing up with PVS-14 NVG's. Usually a replacement shows up with a stripped rifle, if that, and gets issued the NVG's, lasers, and optics that are all property of the unit he gets assigned to.

And the most annoying is the idea. You're not going to have a gang of replacements get press-ganged into a firefight when their truck gets hit then stay with the unit, let alone under a staff sergeant who was individually held over for 90 days. Intact units replace intact units over there, there is NOT a lot of individual replacement going on. We tried it in Vietnam, it didn't work, so we don't do it that way. While there was obviously some military knowledge on the part of the screenwriter, it was thin and or outdated.

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