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Australian MP Urges Deportation of Terrorists, Even If CitizensWould annul grant of citizenship, arguing it was obtained through fraud. Sounds good to me. Not sure it would fly here where the Constitution is inviolable (except where liberal judges decide it isn't). AllahPundit's Legal Brief: Citizenship isn't inviolable, Allah says: Check Title 8 of the U.S. Code. There are grounds in there for denaturalizing U.S. citizens that have withstood constitutional scrutiny. E.g., one statute in there empowers the DOJ to strip Nazi war criminals of their citizenship and deport them to their country of origin. Hmmm... I wonder if that's based on nondisclosure of past crimes and associations, though. It might be harder to deport someone who wasn't clearly a member of a terrorist group before applying for citizenship. Damnit! Muliple instances loose shit in the same post. The "Liberal Party" in Australia is the conservative party (Labor are the lefties). So that blows my whole liberals-are-coming-around sentence. I could use multiple layers of painstaking fact checking myself. About eight or nine layers should do the trick, working 'round the clock to keep these embarrassing gaffes off this dumb blog. posted by Ace at 10:24 PM
CommentsLiberal = Conservative in Australia. The major leftist party is Labor. John Howard is a member of the Liberal party. Posted by: DJ on July 25, 2005 10:28 PM
Check Title 8 of the U.S. Code. There are grounds in there for denaturalizing U.S. citizens that have withstood constitutional scrutiny. E.g., one statute in there empowers the DOJ to strip Nazi war criminals of their citizenship and deport them to their country of origin. Posted by: Allah on July 25, 2005 10:32 PM
one statute in there empowers the DOJ to strip Nazi war criminals of their citizenship and deport them to their country of origin
Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 25, 2005 11:37 PM
I could use multiple layers of painstaking fact checking myself. About eight or nine layers should do the trick, working 'round the clock to keep these embarrassing gaffes off this dumb blog. Hey, at least you owned up to it right away, without hemming and hawing for a few weeks about some editor sticking it in there while you weren't looking. Posted by: Sean M. on July 25, 2005 11:39 PM
sorry about the loose shit Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 25, 2005 11:41 PM
It's not a "dumb blog". It's a "stupid moronblog". Please, Ace, your fans are counting on you to get your catch phrases right. Except for "yeahp". You can feel free to switch that to the correct "yep" anytime you want. Posted by: Bob on July 25, 2005 11:48 PM
It's used all the time. I just read the other week where they stripped someone of citizenship in Wisconsin and deported or are in the process of deporting them back to the Fatherland. Posted by: on July 26, 2005 01:01 AM
Oh, man, there are nazis all over wisconsin. But, ace's dumbass spam blocker won't let me link. www.js$nline.com/news/racine/may05/325408.asp substitute an o for the dollar sign. Posted by: on July 26, 2005 01:14 AM
Check your passport, Ace. You'll see a warning that anyone is liable to lose citizenship, at least in principle. Circumstances leading to naturalized citizens losing their citizenship are largely set by Congress. Posted by: pigilito on July 26, 2005 07:02 AM
DAMMIT!!! What don't you know about phonics? DAMNATION works correctly. DAMNIT just doesn't. You've been warned, mister! The DAMMIT police are onto you. :o) Posted by: JoA on July 26, 2005 07:16 AM
pigilito, I never noticed that in my passport before. Looks mostly like it would be invoked if I renounced US citizenship or sought to be naturalized in another country. I note that losing my citizenship does not necessarily relieve me of my US tax liabilities. Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 26, 2005 08:51 AM
Citizenship isn't inviolable, nor should it be. We have deported undesireables in the past. We have deported mafiosi in the past. Woodrow Wilson executed, jailed and deported Communists during his term of office and solved the growing problem of the Red Menace here for a good long time. Among the Moslems in this country are a great deal of terrorist symapthizers and supporters. Why not get rid of them? Posted by: 72 VIRGINS on July 26, 2005 10:05 AM
Is there anything in the U.S. Constitution to forbid "exile" of a native-born American? I ask because we had a case like this in Canada several decades ago - homegrown FLQ terrorists struck a deal with the Canadian government where they went to Cuba and promised not to return to Canada. It sounds like what really happened was that Cuba agreed to grant them asylum, but the Canadian government called this "exile" from Canada, and I can't see why such a procedure couldn't be adopted by the U.S. Do native-born Americans have an *absolute* right to reside in the country. If I recall my English history and my Shakespeare, enemies of the Crown were often exiled - Richard II exiled Henry Bolingbroke, though it didn't work, because Henry eventually came back and took the crown away from Richard. Still, it was a remedy kings were willing to resort to in the past - what is its status today in a democracy? Is it expressly forbidden, or is it just something that's never been tried? Posted by: Wanda on July 26, 2005 12:01 PM
Now there's a threat. Much better than nuking mecca, and we can start right now, instead of retaliating. Nothing I don't like about preemptive deportation, except for the cost, but what the Hell. I'd rather chip in for that than donate to a victims' fund. We start sending people away by the thousands. I don't think we should wait for another tragedy. No blood. Just buh-bye, assholes. Come back when you can contribute, instead of enjoying our freedoms while trying to destroy them. Posted by: lauraw on July 26, 2005 12:02 PM
I wonder how many of you would have been willing to exile Tim McViegh after OK City. Oh thats right he was a right wing conservative terrorist and that makes it OK, right? Posted by: jeff on July 26, 2005 01:09 PM
No, we just KILLED him. And I think its safe to say we woudnt deport known killers to other countries either. Posted by: lauraw on July 26, 2005 01:24 PM
I'll bet Tim McVeigh would have been happy to take exile instead of what he got instead - execution. Posted by: Wanda on July 26, 2005 01:26 PM
Good answer lauraw. How stupid can Liberals get? He was executed on June 11, 2001. I guess Liberals don't know that that because they were too busy cheering for 911. Posted by: 72 Card Monte on July 26, 2005 01:32 PM
Somebody's nurse helped them post that 1:09 disgrace. Nobody that stupid can wipe their own ass or feed themselves, let alone type. Posted by: spongeworthy on July 26, 2005 01:47 PM
I find it surprising, given their foaming opposition to capital punishment, that a moonbat doesn't know that McVeigh is dead BECAUSE WE KILLED HIM. MURDERED BY THE STATE. But I digress. Posted by: lauraw on July 26, 2005 02:43 PM
I understand there are (former) Americans, born here to parents who are just as American, who casually renounced their citizenship in the 1960s and 1970s as a form of protest. They still don't have their citizenship back, though they have begged and pleaded. I understand this is one respect in which the Department of State is tough as nails: Renounce your citizenship and you will never get it back. Posted by: Helen Gaius Mohiam on July 26, 2005 07:24 PM
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This is super-obscure and I only barely remember it. Given that, I'll give you the hint that it's by the Red Rocker. And I guess you think you've got it made Oh, but then, you never were afraid Of anything that you've left behind Oh, but it's alright with me now 'Cause I'll get back up somehow And with a little luck, yes, I'm bound to win Now twenty people will tell me it's not obscure, it was huge in their hometown and played at their prom. That's how it usually goes. When I linked Donnie Iris's "Love is Like a Rock," everyone said they knew that one and that his other song (which I didn't know at all) Ah Leah! was huge in their area.
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In more marketing for Project Hail Mary, scientists say they've found the biosigns indicating life growing on an alien planet. It's not proof, just signatures of chemicals that are produced by biological metabolism, and it could be nothing, but scientists think it's a strong sign that this planet is inhabited by something.
In a paper published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, a team of scientists announced the detection of dimethyl sulfide (along with a similar detection of dimethyl disulfide) in the atmosphere of an exoplanet called K2-18b. This is actually the second detection of dimethyl sulfide made on this planet, following a tentative detection in 2023. He means they tried to prove the signal was caused by things other than dimethyl sulfide but they could not.
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What? Skeleton of the most famous Musketeer, D'Artagnan, possibly discovered in Dutch church closet.
Dumas picked four names of real musketeers out of a history book, D'Artagnan, Athos, Aramis, and Porthos. So there was an actual D'Artagnan, though he made most of the story up. (Or, you know, all of it.)* Charles de Batz de Castelmore, known as d'Artagnan, the famous musketeer of Kings Louis XIII and Louis XIV, spent his life in the service of the French crown. A lot of Dumas's stories are based on bits of real history. The plot of the >Three Musketeers, about trying to recover lost diamonds from the queen's necklace, was cribbed from the then-almost-contemporaneous Affair of the Queen's Necklace. And the Man in the Iron Mask is based on real accounts of a prisoner forced to wear a mask (though I think it was a velvet mask). * Oh, I should mention, Dumas says all this, about finding the names in an old book, in the prologue to his novel. But authors lie a lot. They frequently present fictions as based on historic fact. The twist is, he was actually telling the truth here. At least about these four musketeers having actually existed and served under Louis XIV. Fun fact: You know the beginning of A Fistful of Dollars where the local gunslingers make fun of Clint Eastwood's donkey and Eastwood demands they apologize to the donkey? That's lifted from The Three Musketeers. Rochefort mocks D'Artagnan's old, brokedown farm horse and D'Artagnan is incensed.
A commenter asked which should be read first, The Hobbit of LOTR?
Easy, no question -- read The Hobbit first. It's actually the start of the story and comes first chronologically. It sets up some major characters and major pieces in play in LOTR. Also, the Hobbit is Beginner-Friendly, which LOTR isn't. The Hobbit really is a delightful book, and a fast read. It's chatty, it's casual, it's exciting, and it's funny. In that dry cheeky British humor way. I love that the narrator is constantly making little asides and commentary, like he's just sitting next to you telling you this story as it occurs to him. LOTR is a very long story. Fifteen hundred pages or so. The Hobbit is relatively short and very punchy and easy to read. If you don't like The Hobbit, you can skip out on LOTR. If you do like it, you'll be primed to read LOTR. Oh, I should say: The Hobbit is written as if it's for children, but one of those smart children's stories that are also for adults. Don't worry, there's also real fighting and violence and horror in it, too. LOTR is written for adults. (It's said that Tolkien wrote both for his children, but LOTR was written 17 years later, when his children were adults.) Some might not like The Hobbit due to its sometimes frivolous tone. Me, I love it. I find it constantly amusing. Both are really good but there is a starkly different tone to both. LOTR is epic, grand, and serious, about a world war, The Hobbit is light and breezy, and about a heist. Though a heist that culminates in a war for the spoils.
The Hobbit Challenge: Read two more chapters. I didn't have much time. Bilbo got the ring.
I noticed a continuity problem. Maybe. Now, as of the time of The Hobbit, it was unknown that this magic ring was in fact a Ring of Power, and it was doubly unknown that it was the Ring of Power, the Master Ring that controlled the others. But the narrator -- who we will learn in LOTR was none of than Bilbo himself, who wrote the book as "There and Back Again" -- says this about Gollum's ring: "But who knows how Gollum had come by that present [the Ring], ages ago in the old days when such rings were still at large in the world? Perhaps even the Master who ruled them could not have said." In another passage, the ring is identified as a "ring of power." I don't know, I always thought there was a distinction between mere magic rings and the Rings of Power created by Sauron. But this suggests that Bilbo knew this was a ring of power created by Sauron. Now I don't remember when Bilbo wrote the Hobbit. In the movie, he shows Frodo the book in Rivendell, and I guess he wrote it after he left the Shire. I guess he might have added in the part about the ring being a ring of power created by "the Master" after Gandalf appraised him of his research into the ring. I never noticed this before. I know Tolkien re-wrote this chapter while he was writing LOTR to make the ring important from the start. And also to make Gollum more sinister and evil, and also to remove the part where Gollum actually offers Bilbo the ring as a "present" -- Bilbo had already found it on his own, but Gollum was wiling to give it away, which obviously is not something the rewritten Gollum would ever do. But I had no memory of the ring being suggested to be The Ring so early in the tale.
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