O.T.: I just heard that Bush may make the recess appt. of Bolton. About time. This shd get the moonbats a barkin'. :-)

to OT above:
Aww I would much rather Bush shut down & recall the entire US mission to the UN until they actually have an ambassador. And leave Bolton's nomination up until the actual Senate rejects him.

Now that would piss off the moonbats.

Notice how Lord Nazir Ahmed doesn't miss a beat when his 99.9% of Muslims are peaceful/Islam = Peace canard gets blown to bits. "Yes, yes 6% of British Muslims just announced that they would like to be terrorist bombers in London, but the real evil is this illegal war in Iraq." Huh? How has this been allowed for so long? This guy is the highest ranking “moderate” Muslim in the UK? Makes me sleep better.

And as for the NPR reporter… Hyperbole? I’m sorry Lord Ahmed would know very well about that survey, it wasn’t hyperbole it was lying. When the left and moderate Muslims speak of a tiny minority responsible for terrorism is this what they’ve been speaking of? When they say only 0.1% of Muslims support terrorist bombing do they really mean 24%?

I favor throwing out the delegations of all illiberal (i.e. rights-ignoring) and most nondemocratic regimes; abolishing the sham "assembly," sham "security council," and tinpot "secretary general"; and turning the UN facilities into the meeting place of a permanent working group of diplomats from the liberal democratic countries. Purging the UN of illiberal and nondemocratic regimes would enrage "liberal Democrats" and expose the falsity of their label. The moonbats would bark.

In fairness there should be a comparison to the opinions of non-Muslims. What % do you suppose had some sympathy for the IRA bombers?

Even if his Lordship is right, that one percent lugging bombs onto the tube is still a pretty big cause for concern.

James,

In fairness, a lot of Irish sympathized with the IRA terrorists too, yes. But that means that both groups should be condemned for supporting terrorism.

Mr. Shearer clearly you missed the part where Lord Nashir claimed 99.9% of Muslims decried the attacks... Except they didn't and the recent survey of their opinions shows that actually a significant percentage support blowing up civilians on buses and trains. When I say civilians I'm speaking of their fellow countrymen, I mean they did immigrate to England correct?

The IRA as a community took responsibility for their violence heinous as it was. Your attempt at moral equivalence would seemed flawed on this level. The Muslim community has never taken responsibility which would be exactly my point. Further are you saying moderate British Muslims are morally equivalent to the Sinn Féin? That would seem to put those Muslims in a pretty poor light. Sinn Féin makes claims about wanting their own country what would be the gripe that immigrant British Muslims are pursuing? Are they angry for being free to pursue any sort of radical ideology of hate while living on the public dole?

My point is if you are going to criticize the Muslim community because a minority hold extreme views you should show this minority is larger than in the country at large. I am confident you can also find non-Muslims who think there is some justification for terrorism in some cases or who have some sympathy for terrorists.

Indeed there are non-Muslims who are terrorist supporters, James, and I'm happy to point such bastards out.

But the fact remains that terrorists swim in a civilian population, and they're being allowed to do so by the Muslim communit, which-- and I don't mean to Muslim-bash-- is on the whole ambivalent about or even in support of terrorism in some situations.

Yes, a most Muslims are against terrorism, but they're not loudly or passionately so.

Could a serious network of KKK lynchers and black-church-bombers exist and draw support from white populations without someone dropping a dime to the Feds? Apparently they can't.

I can't even imagine how you could take a poll that wouldn't undercount support of terror. Maybe if the imams whispered the questions in the basement of the mosque.

The idea that a pollster could just stroll up to some Muslims on the street and get a fair answer to "How do you feel about de-nogginizing, then? Support it, do you? Righty-O!" just escapes me.

'In fairness there should be a comparison to the opinions of non-Muslims. What % do you suppose had some sympathy for the IRA bombers?' I'm starting to hear this argument a lot, and it's driving me crazy. What is the point here? That it's always been like this? That a big swathe of the public has always supported terrorism of some kind, so this is nothing new and we're ridiculous to make a fuss about it? This IS new, and we all know it - maybe people who say this are trying to comfort themselves by pretending that the world isn't changing and shifting around them, but they're taking refuge in lies.

To expand on spongeworthy's point, actions, not words, indicate the sympathies of the Muslim world regarding the terrorists. I don't know if I'm missing something or not but there doesn't seem to be much action with regards to 'cleaning house' in Dar al Islam.

Lord Ahmed ??? What's wrong with this phrase? Damn I knew the Brits were in deep trouble but I had no idea that they were in it this deep. We should learn from their Liberal folly.

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