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July 10, 2005
Slam-Dunk: The OBL-Saddam-Terrorist ConnectionLong, detailed, and devastating. Must-read from the Weekly Standard, again. Here's a bit. Miltary prosecutors listed these points as evidence that a detainee at Guantanamo is an enemy combatant: 1. From 1987 to 1989, the detainee served as an infantryman in the Iraqi Army and received training on the mortar and rocket propelled grenades. On OBL's payroll, part of the Iraqi army, travelling with a member of Iraqi Intelligence to conduct terrorism. Link? Certainly our MSM didn't think so. The AP had gotten the story through a Freedom of Information Act request and so felt obligated to run... something. But they un-sexed-up the information as much as they could: But after briefly describing the documents, the AP article downplayed its own scoop with a sentence almost as amusing as it is inane: "There is no indication the Iraqi's alleged terror-related activities were on behalf of Saddam Hussein's government, other than the brief mention of him traveling to Pakistan with a member of Iraqi intelligence." Oh? Was that all? "No indication" of the Iraqi's involvement in terrorism, except travelling to Pakistan to commit terrorism with a member of Saddam's IIS. Sort of like saying there was "no indication" of OJ Simpson's involvement in the Rockingham murders, except for his leaving more of his DNA around than Ron Jeremy at a Swank mixer. The Weekly standard opines: That sentence minimizing the importance of the findings was enough, apparently, to convince most newspaper editors around the country not to run the AP story. And there's more, of course. Including Al Gore -- yeahp, Al Gore -- criticizing the first Bush administration in the 2000 campaign for not doing enough to combat Iraq's support of world terrorism. posted by Ace at 02:29 PM
CommentsAce, while Stephen Hayes' research remains outstanding, you know as well as I do that, absent verifiable proof that Saddam gave Osama Bin Laden a backrub with a "happy ending", the MSM will never acknowledge whatever ties existed. Personally, given the complexities of explaining these connections to folks who don't care to hear about them, I think it's a mistake to emphasize them. It's the same problem we had when reporting all the indicators of WMD programs as evidence that massive stockpiles of WMD existed. Only the latter would serve to convince the critics who remain open-minded enough to be convinced. I think what should be emphasized is the obvious truth: our enemies are our enemies, and a lot of them live in a rough neighborhood. Two crack dealers who walk by each other's houses every day may never stop to talk to each other, but the cops arrest them both if they get the chance. That, and the WMD argument remains compelling-- even if Saddam had gotten rid of all his weapons, he certainly still wanted them, and would have been eager to buy them off the black market if they ever became available. Then again, I would have supported a war against Saddam *before* 9/11, so I guess I'm one of those guys who was merely looking for an excuse. Gee, I'm so glad I got 3,000 dead Americans handed to me on a platter so I could finally go kill swarthy brown men for shits & giggles. Sigh. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on July 10, 2005 02:41 PM
Miltary prosecutors listed these points as evidence that a detainee at Guantanamo is an enemy combatantNot good salesmanship. If the prosecutors wanted the MSM to spotlight this guy for celebrity status, they should have included the preface that to get him to 'fess up they, 1. threatened to crown him with an assortment thongs from Christina Aguilera's closet, and 2. turned the air conditioner on extra cold (for maximum shrinkage) and laughed at his wiener. Posted by: capitano on July 10, 2005 03:23 PM
I'm close to your position Dave, but I think it's worth pointing out not just the connections, but more so the MSM's continued willingness to bury and distort. Can't put enough nails in that coffin. Pointing out their persistent willful dishonesty is absolutely worth the effort. Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 10, 2005 03:24 PM
Let's get back to these "chemical mortars" a second. Where did these come from? Where did they go? I mean, to me, that sounds like Iraq was planning a strike on a US embassy in 1998 using WMD's. How 'bout that? Posted by: See-Dubya on July 10, 2005 04:05 PM
Was this the same informant that said he was a former soldier who worked extensively with mobile biological weapons vans and worked with Iraqi security to safeguard the "Secret of the Death Vans" before he was detained? Or is this another detainee? Well, some may say the 1st detainee lied, but remember, Iraq is as big as California. It is certainly plausible that the terrorist evildoers and "dead-enders" buried vast stockpiles of WMD and then just forgot where they were buried as they attack US soldiers and Iraqis with everything else they've got. So we have this detainee, a member of the Taliban, claiming he and his "secret agent" Iraqi sidekick went to Pakistan to blow up the Pakistan embassy inside Pakistan. Hmmm! The Pakistan embassy inside Pakistan at a time (1998) when the Pakistanis were the chief sponsors and supporters of Talibani, like the 2nd detainee??? I'm sure that America, credibility on the line purely because all the evildoers that buried the vast stockpiles of WMD forgot where they buried them - have vetted this detainee - and any day, will drop a bombshell on the public of Saddams secret love of the minions of radical Islam.
Posted by: Cedarford on July 10, 2005 08:19 PM
I don't doubt the overall importance and likely accuracy of the report, but point 12, which may be the most important, can't be entirely correct. This guy was going to Pakistan to blow up the Pakistani embassy? That's the only country in the world you can be sure wouldn't have one. I wonder who screwed that up: the prisoner, the interrogator, the writer of the report, or the Weekly Standard. It's conceivable that the prisoner was planning to attack (e.g.) the Pakistani Foreign Ministry and thought that could be called an 'embassy'. If so, the interrogator or his boss should have sought clarification. Posted by: Dr. Weevil on July 10, 2005 09:17 PM
"except for his leaving more of his DNA around than Ron Jeremy at a Swank mixer" Man, that's gold! =D Posted by: Brian on July 11, 2005 12:38 AM
Maybe it was supposed to be "...for the purpose of blowing up the Pakistan United States and British embassies..." as in "the US and British embassies in Pakistan". A typo satisfies Occam's razor best. Posted by: dorkafork on July 11, 2005 02:07 AM
Flypaper. It's all flypaper. Posted by: Patrick O'Hannigan on July 11, 2005 02:16 AM
Yes, everyone knows that fundamentalist muslims loved saddam. he was so good to them and helped advance their causes and all. Posted by: thomas on July 11, 2005 04:49 PM
Hey Thomas have I got a deal for you. I know this Nigerian general who has a whole lot of money. I'll e-mail you about. Posted by: Dman on July 11, 2005 05:39 PM
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