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Supreme Court Retirement Rumors-- And Then There Were Three???Okay, didn't post it earlier today, with that "fantasy threat" (according to the BBC) unfolding in London, but I suppose you've heard: Rehnquist is planning on announcing his retirement. He may have intended to do so today, but delayed due to the "fictitious war" of terrorists against the civilized. Unbelievably, now comes rumors that Rehnquist and that liberal alte kacher Stevens are both announcing their retirements tomorrow. If true, this adds some strange geometries to the nomination process. One conservative, one arch-liberal, one woman who just could never seem to be able to actually, you know, judge a case -- does Bush take two and give back one, or nominate a liberal, a conservative, and a moderate, or -- crikey! -- go for the brass ring and try for three conservatives? Thanks to Allah. Suggestion: Gonzalez for O'Connor. The first Hispanic justice. Whoop-de-doo. I don't think this is going to get us any Hispanic votes, and, more importantly, I don't think Hispanics think this will get us Hispanic votes. But Bush seems very keen on him. They're "friends." (One thing that does in fact make me question Bush's intellect is his childish faith in his "friends." For God's sake. I gave up on believing so absolutely in "friends" after high school when I discovered that "Best Friends Forever" meant no such thing in practice. Imagine my chagrin when I discovered people were "just being nice" with all that "K.I.T." stuff.) A real conservative, like Brown or Owens, for Rehnquist. Hell, make her CJ, the first female CJ in history. Doesn't matter much. It's prestigious but the CJ gets no extra votes; it's mostly an administrative thing. (Although the CJ does get to assign who writes the opinion when voting with the majority.) A real conservative as CJ, and a woman at that. I don't care, and neither will liberals, actually, but we'll all have to pretend we care. And then-- to replace the archliberal crank Stevens -- appoint some libertarian. Here's the thing-- a libertarian will be acceptable to Chuckie Schumer on the Roe issue -- the one issue liberals care about, it seems -- but will vote with us on 80% of the other issues. Except maybe on some law and order sorts of issues, but hell, we even lose Scalia a lot of time on those. (Because, you know, he actually seems to think the Constitution means what it says it means.) I don't know if that will result in Roe v. Wade be overturned (full disclosure: as an intellectual matter I'd like to see it overturned, but as a policy and political matter I'm in no great hurry), but the court would be solidly conservative on most issues. Even on affirmative action... because the libertarian will almost certainly not follow liberal dogma on racial quotas and preferences. Meaning we'd replace two pro-quota justices and one anti-quota justice with two anti-quota justices and one pro-quota justice. And maybe that would appease in-your-face libertarians, and bring them closer into the political fold. I grant you, not an ideal solution, particularly for social conservatives who put overturning Roe v. Wade as top priority. Anyway, the politics of it are beautiful. One Hispanic, one woman, one guy who thinks you should be able to ass-rape a retarded monkey while injecting distilled cobra venom directly into your wife-slash-sister's nipple. All the political bases covered. And Instapundit won't have to say "There's a war on" the next time the Feds raid and underground monkey sodomy-slavery ring. And of course none of that will mean a damn thing in terms of future elections, but I'll pretend it will. Just like politicians and the media insist on doing. posted by Ace at 06:23 AM
Commentsor -- crikey! -- go for the brass ring and try for three conservatives Go for it. Stick it in and break it off. Posted by: Allah on July 7, 2005 10:26 PM
Fuck it. Nothing to lose. He can always back off later and settle. Posted by: TheDude on July 7, 2005 10:32 PM
Jesus, they all keep retiring and Bush will HAVE to appoint Gonzalez - there'll be no one left! I kid, I kid. Posted by: Mark on July 7, 2005 10:43 PM
Solidarity-sloshed with Britain: I'm totally fucked up now. Bless them, Lord, for they make a mighty brew. Be with them as they break out the Holy Hand Grenade of WhoopAss. Posted by: rho on July 7, 2005 10:48 PM
Libertarians are assholes. Really. Name a libertarian that isn't a prick. Sure, we all have libertarian leanings, but that's not the same. Then again, there is Alex Kosinski. He's a libertarian, and at times even a prick. But, he *is* funny. Posted by: on July 7, 2005 10:49 PM
Go for three. When you've got your boot on your enemy's neck you're supposed to break it, not settle for 2 out of 3. Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 7, 2005 10:51 PM
I don't know, sometimes you have to be pragmatic, and personally, I like it, Ace. Posted by: CraigC on July 7, 2005 10:56 PM
I wonder what the kids at Kos and DU think about this? Not enough to wade through the sewer though. Even if it's bogus, it's nice to think about them going insane for a few days.
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 7, 2005 11:02 PM
Can you imagine how batshit the lefty blogs will go if this pans out? I honestly can't think of anything else that would make them crazier. Maybe if Hillary got shot or something. Short of that? Nothing. Posted by: Allah on July 7, 2005 11:05 PM
Ace, faith in your friends isn't such a *bad* thing. After all, Luke Skywalker: Your overconfidence is your weakness. Emperor Palpatine: Your faith in your friends is yours. Although a lot of Ewoks had to take dirt naps in the interim, it all worked out for Luke in the end. Swing away, Dubya. Swing. Away. Cheers, Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on July 7, 2005 11:13 PM
Brass ring, baby. Brass f'n ring. Posted by: Silk on July 7, 2005 11:13 PM
I'm with Allah - Bush should appoint whoever the hell he wants. The left has yet to get one simple fact about democracy through its collective skull - when you lose an election, the other guy gets to lead. If they want to appoint judges to the Court, let them start winning elections. Posted by: Slublog on July 7, 2005 11:14 PM
but I'm your bestest friend ever!
I like it. Posted by: Dave in Texas on July 7, 2005 11:15 PM
If this happens, it'll prove tha Allah is the brightest diety in the blogging sky! Posted by: Iblis on July 7, 2005 11:18 PM
Except, Gonzalez said he wasn't a candidate today. Garza would be a better choice than Gonzalez. Gonzalez would piss a lot of Cons off no matter who else was nominated. In addition, I can't see Bush wanting to have another confirmation battle over another AG nominee. I like the way you think though, Ace--especially the batshit ass-raping-approving libertarian selection. Watch, no one will even resign tomorrow. I think there are monkeys in DC that simply make this crap up just to see us "wonks" wet ourselves. Posted by: Laddy on July 7, 2005 11:18 PM
The problem with the "libertarian" pick is that it would inflame conservative social issues voters. Does Bush want his Supreme Court legacy to include appointing the guy who writes the "Pot Smoking is a Constitutional Right" opinion? Or, say, an opinion (in the wake of Schiavo) on which the Libertarian justice finds a "Right to Die" within the Constitution? Or, say, the majority opinion in Sullivan vs. Ace O' Spades, in which the Libertarian writes the "Gay Marriage is a Constitutional Right" opinion? I could go on. Sure there are plenty of economic issues where Libertarians and Social Conservatives find common ground, but if you think the social issue fissure that was exposed between the Libertarians and the Conservatives was ugly during Schiavo, imagine what it would look like if a Bush-appointed Libertarian Justice was actually in a position of influence and cast the deciding vote. The fact is, if Bush gets to name 3 conservative Justices, he can reshape the court for generations. Scalia, Thomas, Bushes 3 vs Ginsberg, Souter and Breyer. Kennedy becomes irrelevant. He can't even be a swing vote. If he names a Libertarian it Becomes Scalia/Thomas/Bush 2 Conservatives vs. Ginsberg/Souter/Breyer with 2 wild cards: Kennedy and the Libertarian. On a host of social issues, I see Kennedy, the Libertarian, and the 3 Liberals trumping the 4 conservatives. And the conservatives would howl. And the GOP would suffer politically. And W's judicial legacy would be "he promised us Scalia and Thomas...and he gave us Souter II". Let the first Libertarian president (*snicker*) appoint Libertarian justices. Until then, Allah is correct: Go for the Brass Ring. Go for all 3. Posted by: Jack M. on July 7, 2005 11:33 PM
Add to the rumor mill: 1. Ruth the Bat Ginsburg will announce she is leaving due to a recurrence of a medical condition. 2. Souter the Poofter says he is leaving to spend more quality time with his mother and to fight an eminent domain lawsuit on his home. Speculation also exists that Scalia muttered a dark aside to Souter after Sandy Baby resigned - "Now that she is gone, I can focus my stinging, degrading dissents or majority opinions as Chief Justice to be...on you! Muwahhaha!" 3. Justice Breyer is resigning to become Chief Justice of Israel. "I always liked their Constitution better," Breyer explained. 4. Reinquist refused to confirm he was leaving. Or maybe he didn't. When asked, he made gargling noises. The 6 medical staff attending him were silent. 5. Clarence Thomas said he would resign if Janice Rogers Brown was appointed. "Black lawyer bitches. Ain't nuthin but trouble, let me tell you..." 6. Chuck Schumer, on hearing Thomas's remarks, urged Bush to appoint Janice Rogers Brown. 7. Dick Gephardt made a personal pitch to Bill Frist. "Look, I'm out of politics, gave the Primaries to Dean then Kerry, assuring Bush's re-election. He owes me. And if Brown is a black sharecroppers daughter with middling ABA ratings running on biography...well I'm a milk truck drivers son with middling ABA ratings and have gone through life without eyebrows. 8. Scalia was not available for comment, doing out of season duck hunting with VP Cheney. But he had previously expressed interest in being appointed the 1st Italian VP if Cheney croaked. 9. Anthony Kennedy announced he was NOT leaving, but would take over as the "Switch on the Court". He was explaining that he would smack a Justices ass, then they would smack his...when worried clerks took him aside and said that O'Connor was a switch opinion - not a BDSM switch. 10. Emilio Garza began a campaign to oust Gonzalez as the top Hispanic candidate. "Notre Dame 2nd string football, combat marine, take no prisoners anti-abortion guy like me kick that little cholo's ass - amigo to Dubya or not." Posted by: Cedarford on July 7, 2005 11:41 PM
Or, say, the majority opinion in Sullivan vs. Ace O' Spades, in which the Libertarian writes the "Gay Marriage is a Constitutional Right" opinion? You mean Andrew can sue to force Ace to become his bride? No way. Ace looks like crap in white. Posted by: on July 7, 2005 11:47 PM
The ABA is run by whacko leftists. They gave similar ratings to Posner, and Luttig. Posted by: on July 7, 2005 11:53 PM
I'll level with you guys: I don't think three hardliners is necessarily the best deal for us. I understand the opposition to Roe as a matter of legal and moral principle, but a case could be made that having it off the table as an electoral issue has redounded greatly to the GOP's advantage. You put it back in play and you're taking a big, big risk. A moderate who sides with the right wing of the Court on property rights and federalism and with the left wing on abortion, I could live with. Posted by: Allah on July 7, 2005 11:54 PM
You never know what a guy hopped up on Val-U-Rite vodka and Klonopin will say yes to at any given moment. Of course when the buzz wears off, that's when the second thoughts (and the lawsuits) come in... But by that time, Sully would have made sure that it would be a little to late for Ace to be able to wear white at the wedding. Posted by: Jack M. on July 7, 2005 11:56 PM
But by that time, Sully would have made sure that it would be a little to late for Ace to be able to wear white at the wedding. And that's what happens to guys who don't believe in "Best Friends Forever." Posted by: on July 8, 2005 12:07 AM
Sully barebacking ACE on their honeymoon. The thought is..well...gob-smackingly vile! Posted by: Cedarford on July 8, 2005 12:19 AM
Do they have chasity belts for guys? Time to fit ace with one. Posted by: on July 8, 2005 12:30 AM
I'd be lying if I didn't say that I am at least the second reader who thought of the Emperor Palpatine quote regarding faith in friends upon reading your original post. Or I'm at least the second one to admit it. Anyway, I think your suggestions on the nominations are refreshing. I've been following politics way too long and I've lost some of that outsider wisdom that you exhibit. I never even thought of the whole libertarian angle. Obviously, for Rehnquist, we need another guy who will vote to overturn Roe and allow states to ban monkey sex and stuff. But we don't want a bunch of Justices who will allow the five wolves to eat the one lamb or however that stupid analogy goes. So put a libertarian in there in Stevens' place! Someone who would both tell the gov't to get off other people's property as well as defend abortion and monkey sex and all that good stuff. And then, of course, you get Gonzo as the new O'Connor. I agree that Democrats today care about one social issue, and that's abortion, and this combo of Justices would probably pass. It would also give some real ideological balance to the Court as opposed to having five guys like Scalia. I also think that all those social conservatives who say they're gonna stay home in coming elections probably comprise about one tenth of one percent of the population of Jefferson Davis City, Alabama, and their absence at the polls will change absolutely nothing. And then we'll all see how powerless the theocons really are. And then the Republicans will realize, hey, they don't need all those religious nuts to win elections. And then we'll all be a lot better off. Except for the religious nuts. They'll be going nuts over all the monkey sex. Lousy monkeys. Posted by: Matt on July 8, 2005 12:39 AM
Man, can we just PLEEEZE nominate Ann Coulter? I'd love to see her on the SCOTUS. Or, you know, naked. Posted by: Dacotti on July 8, 2005 01:31 AM
I disagree with your whole analysis. The three best strict interpreter judges should be nominated. That is the safest approach and will help eliminate inappropriate judicial activism. In the next President's term, Scalia and Ginsburg will retire and if a Dem is in office, they'll be WAY lefty judges. Look at Reagan. Only 1 of three turned out as a strict constructionist/federalist. If history is any indicator, you are lucky if one stays as a strict constructionist. Posted by: ryan on July 8, 2005 01:33 AM
Allah wrote: I'll level with you guys: I don't think three hardliners is necessarily the best deal for us. If "us" is the GOP--you may be right. But I'd like to think (hope) that Bush has a somewhat longer view than merely the 2006 midterms. If the goal is POLITICAL--then yeah, go 2 originalists and a "sop" to the left. If, however, the goal is to actually establish a Court that will embody those principles that the political element has fought so hard for, then you go for it all. (note: when I say "embody those principles"--I'm talking in the legal sense--I don't care if 99% of social cons want Evangelical Protestantism to be the official religion, it ain't in the document so you don't get it) Also remember, that a large part of the GOP's electoral success over the years has been to run on the platform of "the courts is a'wacky!"--hard to see how failing to follow through on that rather important plank will help the GOP at all in the future. Posted by: Christopher Cross on July 8, 2005 01:49 AM
No way. Two out of three changes -nothing-: Rehnquist was one of the stalwarts, and O'Connor was pretty good on the conservative side despite her flop on Roe and the disgraceful crap of recent terms. Furthermore, we're two votes short of reversing Roe, not one. For Bush to put in one crypto-lib and three conservatives would cost him a ton of political capital with no return. Might as well go whole hog, and stick Cornyn (who might well be an easier confirm) in after two big conservatives. Gonzales as a -fourth- appointee might be acceptable, not before. We have to squash that notion in the bud. Moon God: if you think partisan advantage is more important than the rule of law, you're nuts, and learned nothing in law school. Why are Republicans in the party in the first place? Posted by: someone on July 8, 2005 03:26 AM
The whole point of reversing Roe -- and I say this as one not particularly into its end of the 'life' issue -- is to cut the Court's current mischief-making jurisprudence out by the root. With it, our judicial overlords have sanction to make up whatever shit they want, no matter what the actual words of the Constitution say. We'll never end the left's hold on the legal 'mainstream' while it remains -- too many institutions have been twisted and perverted to justify Roe's existence, and all of them generate more bad 'law'. (Cf. the career of Ronald Dworkin.) Roe delenda est. Posted by: someone on July 8, 2005 03:35 AM
Oh, and Ace? What if that libertarian joins with the lefties and, say, one replacement Hillary justice to mandate gay "marriage" throught the country? Bush's name will be mud, and rightly so. Posted by: someone on July 8, 2005 03:45 AM
Three strict constructionists, period. Garza instead of Gonzales. Brown, Owen, Cornyn, or Luttig for the other two. If he gets a fourth opening, then nominate some wild card or a horse or something, just to finally push the lefties off the edge. But until then, true conservatives. We are the majority for a reason. Act like it. Posted by: brak on July 8, 2005 09:30 AM
Can we stop with the Sully references already? I mean Lord knows he's not the easiest to offend. Criticizing his views and diatribes just lend support to the idea that he's respected and mainstream. I personally never read people who aren't smart enough to understand the concept of "safe sex". Anyway, if we're going to bitch about him, lets do something constructive. Say, get a Sully vs. Fred Phelps cage match to the death organized for PPV. Win. Win. Baby. Posted by: Dave on July 8, 2005 09:46 AM
The left has yet to get one simple fact about democracy through its collective skull - when you lose an election, the other guy gets to lead. Only if that guy wins with like 42 percent of the vote. Then it's a mandate. Otherwise, it's Diebold and Ohio-way robbery. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on July 8, 2005 09:51 AM
why give in to these liberals? you appoint the best judges. and u don't worry about ideology. nowhere does it say u have to replace a liberal with a liberal. stevens was appointed by a republican for christsakes. Posted by: bob on July 8, 2005 09:54 AM
I think Estrada over Garza or Gonzales as the first Hispanic justice would be better for the way it would back the Dems into a political corner- if Reid and Co. complain how he has no judicial experience, the GOP can hit the Dems over the head about their obstruction in 2006. Posted by: Michael Napier on July 8, 2005 10:42 AM
Go for three hardliners. With the Republican track record on Supreme Court appointments, we might get one Posted by: Robert Treat Paine on July 8, 2005 10:45 AM
Can we stop with the Sully references already? I mean Lord knows he's not the easiest to offend. Whose trying to offend Sullivan? You got it back asswards. We're trying to poke Ace. And, can I put you down for $50 for Ace's bridal shower gift? Posted by: on July 8, 2005 10:45 AM
Now this could really change things. With Rehnquist and O'Connor retiring, the question was never really whether Bush could move the Court significantly to the right, but whether his opponents could move it to the left. A Stevens retirement would change everything. I also like the idea of libertarian nominees, but it seems those are about as scarce as hen's teeth. It's almost as if to find a genuine originalist, you have to swallow a bit of socially conservative taint. I hope I'm proven wrong. Posted by: Cynical Nation on July 8, 2005 10:47 AM
I also like the idea of libertarian nominees, but it seems those are about as scarce as hen's teeth. Alex Kosinski, libertarian. Posted by: on July 8, 2005 10:49 AM
Gonzales won't be the first hispanic justice - Justice Cardozo was of Spanish-American dissent. Posted by: J_Mann on July 8, 2005 11:06 AM
Fifty bucks? You're only getting Ace ONE truckload of Val-U-Rite? C'mon splurge a little. Posted by: Iblis on July 8, 2005 11:06 AM
Val-U-Rite and one Klonopin? Are you implying ace is a cheap date? Posted by: on July 8, 2005 11:43 AM
all libertarians aren't pro-abortion either. you just have to think the unborn baby has some rights as well. Posted by: on July 8, 2005 11:46 AM
Ace... it all depends on what your definition of libertarian is. Posted by: on July 8, 2005 12:58 PM
To the tune of Bless 'em all: Fuck 'em all, Fuck 'em all, push the Liberals to topple and fall, Posted by: 72 VIRGINS on July 8, 2005 02:08 PM
If President Bush is lucky enough to nominate three justices, he had better nominate three Scalia or Thomas...that's what he promised, that why I voted for him, and that's who I expect him to nominate (as many times as necessary to get them confirmed). Posted by: Tribe on July 8, 2005 03:23 PM
Rehnquist might announce this afternoon Just a rumor... Posted by: brak on July 8, 2005 03:44 PM
"Anyway, the politics of it are beautiful. One Hispanic, one woman, one guy who thinks you should be able to ass-rape a retarded monkey while injecting distilled cobra venom directly into your wife-slash-sister's nipple. "
Posted by: Michael Pusatera on July 8, 2005 04:18 PM
-This is the greatest thing I've ever read on a blog. Period! Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 8, 2005 06:54 PM
A moderate who sides with the right wing of the Court on property rights and federalism and with the left wing on abortion, I could live with. Allah, Roe V. Wade is an issue of Federalism. The power granted to Congress (and by extension, Federal courts) is to mint money, deal with interstate trade issues, foreign policy, and so on. At no time was it intended to standardize moral policy for the States. Posted by: PlacidPundit on July 9, 2005 12:31 AM
Hmm... Ann Coulter for SCOTUS??? Imagine the hearings... She'd get to respond, right? Posted by: ken anthony on July 9, 2005 01:30 AM
Roe usurped powers reserved to the states under our Constitution. Another example of SCOTUS making bad laws from the bench and polarising the Nation. and no way i'm kicking in 50$ to Acey's bridal shower....he's betrothed to me! Posted by: on July 9, 2005 01:45 AM
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