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July 01, 2005

Brian Williams Compares Founding Fathers To Terrorists!

Happy F'n Fourth of July, eh? Enjoy the fireworks.

Many Americans woke up to a curious story this morning: several of the former Iran Hostages have decided there is a strong resemblance between Iran's new president and one of their captors more than 25 years ago. The White House and most official branches of government are ducking any substantive comment on this story, and photo analysis is going on at this and other news organizations. It is a story that will be at or near the top of our broadcast and certainly made for a robust debate in our afternoon editorial meeting, when several of us raised the point (I'll leave it to others to decide germaneness) that several U.S. presidents were at minimum revolutionaries, and probably were considered terrorists of their time by the Crown in England.

The hard left, the third-worlders-are-just-better-than-us-left, and many liberals refuse to distinguish between what they ironically term "freedom fighters" and terrorists.

Let me, for the hundredth time, explain things to these fucking anti-american morons.

The left likes to pretend that terrorists are merely guerilla fighters. As the patriots who liberated this country used guerilla tactics some of the time (to much better effect than conventional tactics, of course), the left loves claiming that the Minutemen and such are no different than Zarqawi's murderers.

Wrong.

Guerilla fighters violate some of the rules of war -- they often do not wear recognizable uniforms, and they often blend into a civilian population after an ambush on an opponent. They strike quick, kill a few soldiers, and attempt to melt away.

Yes, these are violations of the rules of war. But this does not make them terrorists.

Because, unlike actual terrorists, guerilla fighters strike legitimate military targets (enemy soldiers, enemy bases, the enemy's political control structure which may include political leaders and police, which are quasi-military and thus at the very least semi-legitimate targets).

Terrorists strike illegitimate targets-- namely, civilians. And they don't strike them accidentally, as collateral damage inflicted in striking a legitimate target; their purpose is to slaughter "soft targets" as frequently as possible. That's their primary goal-- not to defeat an enemy's military, which is the goal of guerillas; but to shock and terrorize a civilian population into acquiescence and appeasement.

Does everyone get that now? Just because the Minutemen hid behind trees and were irregular troops often having no real military insignia (though they did often sport those, actually) doesn't make them terrorists... so long as they were killing British troops, which, last time I checked, is what they were doing.

Of course any war will feature atrocities committed by angry or undisciplined soldiers who decide to kill civilians. And these soldiers are criminals and could be characterized as "terrorists." But generally these are aberrations in wars between civilized peoples, and the culprits are brought to justice.

So, for the last fucking time:

Just because someone is not part of a regular military force does NOT make him a terrorist. He is a guerilla fighter. He MAY be a terrorist, depending on his choice of targets. And, as in Iraq, he may often switch frequently between being a not-quite-lawful-but-not-quite-disgusting guerilla fighter, attacking legitimate targets (like our troops and Iraqi recruits), and then blowing up civilians and attacking hotels.

In Iraq, the insurgents/guerillas are also largely terrorists, because they engage in terrorist attacks a good amount of the time.

But that's not often the case. And it was not the case as regards our Founding Fathers.

So, Brian Williams: Save your dopey leftist cant for when you retire. Read more, think more, yap less.

You stupid fucking newstwat mannequin.


posted by Ace at 02:12 PM
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TO the Left, it is all Vietnam and Nazis.

The rest of us can pick up a history book and know that most of the War for Independance was fought with coventional armies, fighting in uniform.

Posted by: on July 1, 2005 02:25 PM

bravo.

semper fi.

Posted by: jcrue on July 1, 2005 02:40 PM

Oh the irony. A media head says something disgusting like this, and Media Matters has nothing to say about it. Why am I not shocked?

Posted by: Mark on July 1, 2005 03:01 PM

Brian Williams - another smug, conceited, dishonest arrogant, stupid ignorant big media quisling.

Posted by: max on July 1, 2005 03:27 PM

Let's rather his Ken-Hair ass.

Posted by: Iblis on July 1, 2005 03:35 PM

I am especially impressed by that blasphemous document those American Terrorists wrote - The Bill of Rights; lets hope that their fellow terrorists in Iran are not as radical.

Posted by: dittybopper on July 1, 2005 03:43 PM

Good gawd. How do these fuckers get a job?

Nice work, Ace.

Posted by: rdbrewer on July 1, 2005 03:52 PM

How do they get a job? It's because other fuckers with the same mentality hire them. It's the ones that don't think like the others that don't make it inside.

Posted by: Hoodlumman on July 1, 2005 04:11 PM

The Globe still hasn't agreed what a terrorist is, but outside the Arab countries and Israel(and those in America inordinantly influenced by Israel), a consensus is forming.....

1. Africa, Latin America, even Europe is trending towards agreeing that those who fight transnational conflicts outside uniform are unlawful combatants who may be punished up to...exceptfor Euroweenies...execution.

2. Indians attacking civilian settler wagon trains in the US, French partisans killing Nazi soldiers and civilian officials, and Palestinians killing Israeli occupying troops and armed colonists are not Terrorists. Nazis, Japanese occupying troops, french colonialists, even Israelis may loosely term all opposition to them in occupied nations "terrorism", but clearly the term is narrower than "our enemies".

3. Outside the members of the Religion of Peace and Euroweenie Lefties - few dispute executing a pregnant Israeli mother and her three helpless daughters was an act of terrorism. Few dispute 9/11 as terrorism. Few call Madrid 3/11, car bombing Shiites in a mosque, Tamil Tigers bombing a marketplace full of civilians, or Beslan legitimate. Members of the RoP made a big mistake in refusing to acknowledge there is a difference between killing Zionist Occupiers, and those within Israel proper, on grounds they do not differentiate between Israel pre-1967 Borders and the 4th Geneva-violating armed colonizing that Zionists engage in outside Israel Proper.

Some working definitions:

A. Legitimate combatants - Uniformed combatants of a regular Army or indigenous freedom fighters, partisans - who, excepting indigenous who cannot practically don uniforms - adhere to the laws of conducting warfare.

B. Unlawful combatants - Regular Army outside uniform or indigenous resistance that operates outside the Hague Conventions.

C. War criminals - Uniformed military that deliberately violate war fighting conduct, in a gravely serious fashion.

D. Terrorists Those who deliberately target unarmed civilians, for the most part, in manner outside all recognized conduct of war, to achieve political ends.

Posted by: Cedarford on July 1, 2005 04:58 PM

There actually WERE terrorists in the Revolutionary War.
They were called the English, who made war on civilians (including burning out whole towns and taking hostages) and who hired the Indians, who never even heard of civilized war, to brutalize farmers in the Carolinas and the New England states.

Posted by: DaveP. on July 1, 2005 05:01 PM

I've often heard leftists say, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

Of course, a "freedom fighter" is somebody who fights for freedom. The word freedom has an actual meaning, and it isn't theocracy. If they aren't fighting for freedom, they aren't freedom fighters.

Posted by: SJKevin on July 1, 2005 05:24 PM

Exactly why does Asshat Williams have to editorialize anyway? Why not report the fact and then shut the fuck up, Brian? How hard can that be?

Posted by: on July 1, 2005 05:42 PM

The Founding Fathers were soldiers and scholars who fought on their home territory against an authoritarian monarchy that routinely ruled through repression and fear. The "insurgents" in Iraq are largely foreign born who think nothing of murdering children in order to fell a brand new government of the people in order to install a rigid Islamic dictatorship. OK, sure they're the same fucking thing.
Washington and the revolutionaries consisently acted in the most noble traditions of warfare. If they had committed atrocities, the revisionist history books in a lot of schools would certainly have dwelled on that. Zarqawi and his merry band of psychopaths sawed a kid's head off and put it on display for the world to see. Anyone who cannot see the moral distinctions between the two is someone who probably has trouble not pissing or shitting themselves. I would love to tear into that blow-dried shitbird Brian Williams, but "newstwat mannequin" is hard to top.

Posted by: UGAdawg on July 1, 2005 06:29 PM

Come on, ace, learn a little history. George Washington frequently took aid workers hostage and beheaded them. Since they didn't have cam corders or Al Jazeera back then, he brought along expert draghtsmen to draw "atrocity" cartoons, which he then sent to Punch magazine. And don't fortget the time Washington razed the headquarters of the Ladies' Croquet Club with his sloop of war, USS Heavenly Butchery. Freedom fighter my ass.

Posted by: Billy Tibbits on July 1, 2005 07:59 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Dan Rather has just unveiled a genuine 1773 memo in Times New Roman font with a photograph of Washington wearing a t-shirt that says “Ye Olde Terroriste”.

In other news, I just posted some cat pictures on my blog for Jeff Goldstein.

Posted by: TallDave on July 1, 2005 10:09 PM

How can you seriously defend our Founders? Do you not recall the unconscionable tossing of the tea into the Boston Harbor?

Posted by: cubic rooms on July 1, 2005 10:35 PM

TallD, that should be the caption on a t-shirt with a picture of Williams against a larger picture of Washingon Crossing the Deleware.

Posted by: rdbrewer on July 1, 2005 10:44 PM

Great job, Ace. I think you may have been a bit tough on Williams, though. It isn't really his fault he said what he did. Evidently the tanning bed rays have finally affected his brain.

Posted by: Lorie Byrd on July 2, 2005 12:41 AM

Tea in the Harbour! Ah Ha - environmental terrorists too. God I feel so ashamed! I'm going to rush out and contribute to UNISEF.

Posted by: Ron LaCanne on July 2, 2005 10:28 AM

Well said!

Posted by: Tom Bowler on July 2, 2005 11:43 AM

Let me get this straight, Ace. Our Army Air Force bombed the Messerschmitt plant at Augsburg and the ball bearing plant at Schweinfurt, legitimate military targets, while wearing uniforms. They also fire bombed the civilian population of Dresden , also while wearing uniforms. Now... they dropped their bombs ( hit ) and then flew away ( run, or ran) a standard guerilla tactic. Now since the uniforms were not brightly colored with distintive insignia and distingishable from a distance, as the rules of war require...were the brave airmen of our Army Air Force... carrying out orders; terrorists or simply guerillas? War is Hell and all's fare in love and war. So, let's cut out the cry-baby, bedwetter crap about who's fighting fare and stop lamenting that they're not coming at us with T-72's and Mig-31's like in a real war.

Posted by: Dane Mathis on July 2, 2005 11:44 AM

To treat your questions as serious Dane:

USAAF uniforms were distinctive and had identifying insignia. You could easily tell the difference between them and Luftwaffe uniforms. Also, the airplanes they were flying had distinguishing insignia -- the white star in a blue circle. If American flyers had flown missions in aircraft marked with German insignia -- then they would have been in trouble.

The rules of war do not forbid camoflauge - just civilian clothes. n.b. You can actually wear civilian clothes legally as long as you have some sort of distignuishing insignia, such as an armband. Members of the Volksturm (WWII German Home Guard) who were captured by the Western Allies were treated as legimate combatants as long as they were wearing their armband.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood on July 2, 2005 02:10 PM

The funny part is that Williams thinks he made a REALLY clever and intelligent point. Idiot.

Thank God these people are being exposed for who they really are.

Posted by: fugazi on July 2, 2005 03:26 PM

I am as conservative right as a guy can be and I find myself defending a media member. I've heard Brian Williams on Hannity and he seemed interested if not aligned to red state patriotism and values.
And I noticed he was in the pages of my book Operation Iraqi Freedom. I have a hard time thinking that this guy who experienced danger in war and lived with and was protected by GI's root for their very threat. I just can't imagine him actually equivocating beheaders with our founders. The book shows that NBC staffers have met celebratory and thankful Iraqi individuals. He's gotta know this was the war was the right thing to do and our military are on the side of good.

So in my opinion
Dumb quote? yeah
Bad Brian Williams ? jury's still out

Posted by: Grate on July 2, 2005 11:32 PM

American Revolutionary: "Give me liberty or give me death."

Iranian Theocrat:"Give me YOUR liberty or I will give YOU death."

Those unable to spot the difference aren't to be reasoned with in any event.

Posted by: K. Murphy on July 4, 2005 04:19 PM

Brainless brian williams yeah and i suppose that the WEATHER UNDERGROUND were great heros and that PANCHO VILLA was GREAT FREEDOM FIGHTER and that the STAR SPANGLED BANNER is a song glorifying war and death and should be replaced with that stupid AGE OF AQUARIUS and that the BALD EAGLE should be replaced with a dumb rainbow chicken why dont brian williams just jump in a lake

Posted by: sandpiper on July 4, 2005 09:24 PM
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