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June 28, 2005

Slacker Blogger

I didn't watch the President's speech, alas. Had some things that needed taking care of.

But Dave from Garfield Ridge did. Sure, his commentary is "old," but what the hell.

I guess I'll have to watch the Fox repeat later tonight. Although I know what I'm already going to say: B-. That's what Bush always delivers.

Update: B-.

It was okay. But it was mostly just rhetoric, and mostly just a restatement of previous rhetoric to boot. It was subdued and sober and serious, an appropriate tone. And Bush showed that bit of emotionalism at the end, which, look, if I were a liberal, I'd be claiming he was doing on cure.

But there really weren't any new facts, and I think facts persuade. Rhetoric really doesn't, or only a little and only for a time. Yes we're making some progress with Iraqi army and all that, but it's not like Bush could blow our minds with some new metric of progress. I suppose in that respect I'm evaluating the speech based on a criterion it couldn't possibly deliver; but that's why I generally don't bother with speeches.

A fair speech, well-delivered. Meh.


posted by Ace at 09:31 PM
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I'd give him a B. Delivery is never going to be spectacular. Content was solid.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on June 28, 2005 10:30 PM

We're spreading freedom, fighting the terrorists, things are getting better, stay the course, support our troops.

Very little smirking, much furrowing of the brow.

The tie was blue.

In response, Biden took his "whiny angry complainer guy" presidential campaign theme for a spin. Needs work.

Posted by: planetmoron on June 28, 2005 11:00 PM

A- at worst. Very good.

Posted by: someone on June 28, 2005 11:24 PM

It had to be pretty good. Some moron at the Huffington Post just compared Bush to the BTK Killer. Any speech that drove liberals to a new level of lunacy has to be considered a success.

Link via Instapundit.

Posted by: Slublog on June 28, 2005 11:27 PM

You know, one of these days I'm just going to actually learn HTML...

Let's try this one again.

If that doesn't work, here's the URL:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/paul-krassner/capsule-review_3350.html

Posted by: Slublog on June 28, 2005 11:36 PM

Two thumbs UP.

When the (serious) opposition has no choice but to find fault with things the President DIDN'T talk about versus finding fault with the things he actually DID talk about; well, you've got yourself a "winner". I may be a "Liberal", but I support this war and always have. The President did a fantastic job of "(re)selling" the war to the People tonight.

Maybe he didn't win over Sen's Durbin, Pelosi, or Dean, but who in their right mind would expect him to anyway? It's not his job to please politicians. It's his job to please the People.

Posted by: Gun-Toting Lib on June 28, 2005 11:49 PM

You've seen the replay, now - give it an A-, Ace. You know it's true. What his scripted speeches lack in the "I can hear you, the rest of the world can hear you..." spontaneous elegance, they can make up with clarity and heartfelt sincerity. This one had it.

Posted by: John Climacus on June 28, 2005 11:59 PM

I'm gonna guess on a couple of reactions to the speech before visiting the fever swamps...

Kos: Bush = Hitler

Excitable Andy: Where was the apology for Gitmo? Torture! Torture! Tooooooorture!!!

I'll check back in to see how I scored in a little while.

Posted by: Sean M. on June 29, 2005 12:33 AM

Well, I've got to admit that I'm batting .000 tonite.

I couldn't really find any Hitler comments from the Kossaks, just a bunch of stuff about 1.) How they couldn't even bear to watch the speech or, 2.) How it just reinforced their view of how horribly wrong things are going (I know, shocking!) and, 3.) The MSM is waaaaaaay too conservative for their tastes. F'rinstance, I saw a couple of them complain that (get this) Chris Matthews is (and I'm not kidding here, some of them actually seem to believe this) in BushCo's pocket. Chris. Fuckin'. Matthews.

But, thankfully, no Hitler comments that I saw before having to dive into the shower.

And as for Sully, he hasn't commented on the speech as of yet. I can only assume that he caught the vapors and retired to his hammock. That, or he was out walking the beagle while the speech was on.

Posted by: Sean M. on June 29, 2005 03:23 AM

It was clearly a success; the press is already trying to hide it with a non-story: "Bush Criticized Over Speech About Iraq War" (AP headline).

Posted by: someone on June 29, 2005 03:24 AM

I missed it, alas. I work nights and the time I woke up to get ready for work was already after the speech was over. If it had been an hour later, I'd've been too busy getting ready for work.

Posted by: Patrick Chester on June 29, 2005 06:41 AM

Solid speech.

General MSM reaction= "But...but...but...he mentioned 9/11!! How dare he!!"

Posted by: brak on June 29, 2005 09:19 AM

Mucho gracias for the link, my friend.

Now, get back to blogging, you slacker.

Thanks,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on June 29, 2005 09:29 AM

He should have held up a picture of the painting of Saddam smiling while the towers were burning. That really would have offended Gergen.

Posted by: Dman on June 29, 2005 10:00 AM

I didn't see Bushs speech either but from Dave's descripition it sounds like he managed to trip over his own dick again. The connections between Saddam and OBL are vague and Saddam may not have had anything to do with 911. That's all old news anyway, so why hand Liberals a fresh club to beat W with anyway? Cheesh!

Nobody can make W look as bad as W can.

Posted by: 72 Atrifacts on June 29, 2005 10:15 AM

I think it was last week, after Durbin's speech, when I was joking on the comments here about what hyperbolic, ridiculous things lefties would compare Bush to next. One of my thoughts was "serial killers." Thank you to the Huffington Post for proving me right.

Posted by: brak on June 29, 2005 10:37 AM

The connections between Saddam and OBL are vague and Saddam may not have had anything to do with 911.

Direct connections? Yes. But truly nuanced thinkers, aka "war supporters", understood already that OBL, Saddam, 9/11 and the war in Iraq are indirectly connected in ways that are important and real nonetheless. The few folks that remain tentatively supportive benefit from hearing him say it again, and again, and again.

W didn't hurt himself by bringing it up. And he couldn't have helped himself with reactionary turds by avoiding it under any circumstance. As for liberals beating him with that club, it's not fresh and they'd use it whether he mentioned it or not. Furthermore, I say throw me in that br'ar patch, idiot Democrats.

Posted by: Rocketeer on June 29, 2005 10:40 AM

I think he said what needed to be said. I especially liked that he made a plea for the citizens to be more supportive of the troops who are doing the actual fighting of this war. That needed to be said, and was glad to hear it. I hope the public will be responsive to that message.

Posted by: Defense Guy on June 29, 2005 11:49 AM

I think it would've been more powerful to hammer home the point that we are locked in a struggle that will determine the fate of the world forever. I would've said the we are in a great contest of wills, and the whole world is watching. Instead of reminding everyone of this stupid controversy, he should've stuck to what no one can deny, that we are there now and must see it through. And he should've paraphrased another great Republican:

Now we are engaged in a great war, testing whether this nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. And the whole world is a great battlefield of that war.

The brave men, living and dead, who struggled there, have consecrated it, far beyond our meager power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.

A. Lincoln

Posted by: 72 DOGS on June 29, 2005 11:51 AM

OOPS, forgot to include the best part:

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Posted by: 72 DOGS on June 29, 2005 12:01 PM

I don't think it changed the playing field much. Under the circumstances, that gets it a B- at best.

One big lack was any anecdotal support--stories about the bravery of the troops, or about the bravery of the Iraqis we're there to help. Some vivid, concrete facts about what's been accomplished so far would have been nice, too. Somebody in the White House needs to start reading Arthur Chrenkoff more regularly. Bush had a chance to make his case directly, without the usual MSM distortion, and I feel like he blew it.

Posted by: utron on June 29, 2005 12:02 PM

Ahh, Ace's always-correct pessimism pops up again. Heh.

72, watch the damn speech before you spout off. You have totally the wrong impression.

Posted by: someone on June 29, 2005 02:12 PM

someone
OK, I will. But utron and others on this blog apparently did and are of the same opinion, this seems to be the general consensus among the conservtatives I know. My post is meant as constructive critcism. Bush too often misses the ball and I'm always left wondering why, when it would've been so easy to hit it out of the park. And always being a cheerleader doesn't help anyone, least of all Bush.

Posted by: 72 Card Monte on June 29, 2005 02:50 PM
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