No clicky! No worky!

Oh, I take that back. Unless you fixed it in 1/100 th of a second.

4.) A reporter who has read one too many posts by a certain blogger who is always talking about his inner gay guy?

My guess is that the headline was written by some dingbat liberal woman who imagines in her own personal utopia that straight guys absolutely DO enjoy gay pride parades as much as the gay guys....

because if you can believe this, then you can also believe that there's a straight guy out there for you who gives a flying fuck about whatever nonsense comes flying out of your clueless liberal mouth....

and that he will share your love of figure skating....

and shriek gleefully along with you over the decadence of eating a king-sized bowl of Haagan Daz double fudge delight....

and...ah fuck it. I've made my (misogynistic and hurtfully heteronormative) point.

It has to be a woman reporter. Because while it may be ok for a woman to be bi, it sure as hell aint ok for a cowboy. Male gayness is like pregnancy. You either is, or you ain't. THAT'S. JUST. THE. WAY. IT. IS.

Yeah, well, I guess I should have specified I was talking about men.

We all know that an awful lot of women will, um, do stuff with other women under the right circumstances.

Bless 'em.

"Prongs"? Ouch. Can we keep long, poking objects out of this discussion?

Could be written by someone who, when s/he says gays just want to be "tolerated", s/he really means they just want to be "accepted".

And someone who when s/he says gays just want to be "accepted", s/he really means they want to be "celebrated".

And someone who when s/he says gays just want to be "celebrated", s/he really means that "YOU'RE A DISGUSTING HOMOPHOBE!"

We all know that an awful lot of women will, um, do stuff with other women under the right circumstances.

Bless 'em.

Sure, if you throw a couple of hundred dollars at them and tell them you'll make them a star.

Can we keep long, poking objects out of this discussion?

Hey! I like some long, poking objects!

Hey! I like some long, poking objects!

Careful, or you'll put your eye out!

"Sure, if you throw a couple of hundred dollars at them and tell them you'll make them a star."

So that's how Karol got you, huh Ace?

I actually came over here to alert you to James Taranto's use of quotations from the Early Andrew Sullivan, the pre-Sullivan Sullivan, to show him in agreement with Karl Rove. But I see you've already jumped all over that one.

It must be gobsmackingly vile to be on record when you're as inconsistent as Sullivan.

Thanks, looks like we had the same idea today. Same quotes, more or less.

We all know that an awful lot of women will, um, do stuff with other women under the right circumstances.

whatchu talkin' about Mr. Willis?

We all know that an awful lot of women will, um, do stuff with other women under the right circumstances.

Oh that is just that male dream when we women get together all we do is wear sexy nighties, rub oil all over each other, giggle and bath together.

The reality is when women get together is we wear baggy sweat clothes, eat ice cream out of the box and bitch about men.

OK, conservative gay here. I am sick up to my neck with the "all gay, all the time" mindset of the media. Parades, gay marriage, heteronormative(sheesh!) behavior, Rosie O'donut, Will & Grace...Enough already!

It was so much more fun when it was an underground kind of lifestyle. You partied, you danced, you went back to your normal life on Monday. You weren't proud, and you weren't ashamed. Because it was private behavior, you know?

If I'm this tired of it all, I can just imagine how much most straights must be sick of hearing about it.

Oh that is just that male dream when we women get together all we do is wear sexy nighties, rub oil all over each other, giggle and bath together.

You left out the whipped cream and sex toys, but yeah, that'd be the one.

The reality is when women get together is we wear baggy sweat clothes, eat ice cream out of the box and bitch about men.

*sigh* Yeah, we know. I think you ladies need to ask yourselves "Is a world where this kind of thing is allowed to happen really a world we want to leave to our children?"

THANK YOU, Log Cabin, for saying what you just did. Conservatives tend to agree that what people do in their private lives is their own business, but what started out as "Stay out of our bedrooms" rhetoric -- which does make sense -- has now turned into "You MUST accept our lifestyles being flaunted in front of you without objection or else you're a homophobe...and while we're at it, you must recognize us as a minority group for political purposes and grant us special protections or you're a homophobe, too." It just makes the notion that "Gays are just like everyone else" seem like a lie.

Later,
bbeck

Hell, I'm straight and I don't want hetereosexual stuff shoved in my face all the time. Bleh. I want kids to be able to be kids without all this overt sex all the time.

The headline writer misspoke [I *hate* that word...] What s/he/it meant to say was:

"drag queens or geldings"

I don't want hetereosexual stuff shoved in my face all the time

For me it depends on whose stuff it is.

Just kidding.

Log Cabin, I have a personal question. Does being a gay conservative have a negative effect on your dating opportunities? I'm sincerely curious.

One of those ultra-liberal-women who basically hangs out almost exclusively with gay men for whatever reason. She's more into gay culture than gay dudes are -- they sort of want her to ix-ne on the ay-gay all the ime-tay -- and also sorta thinks the world would be a better place if, as Kurt Cobain sang, "everyone is gay."

They're called "fag hags," Ace.

I miss the last t-shirt girl.

... so glad I learned my lesson last year and opted not to go this time around. There's only so much body-glitter, thong-wearing, fake-palm-tree grinding to crappy Cher music dancing this gay guy can take.

And besides.... "Family Guy" was on.

"Does being a gay conservative have a negative effect on your dating opportunities?"

Being a straight conservative has hurt mine, mainly because I tend to get interested in the somewhat damaged arty girls who like the Pixies and the occasional art flick.

I remember the Gay Pride parades in the mid-80's. Not quite G-rated, but genuinely fun bits of street theater -- besides, the price was right.

After opening with the traditional "womens' motorcycle contingent" (AKA "dykes on bikes"), there would be a variety of wild celebrants -- everything from "The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" (nun drag) to "Jerry's Fairies" (homosexual Grateful Dead fans). On occasion, you'd get some "sexy nighties, rub oil all over each other, giggle and bathe together" girls -- which you might miss if you were still laughing too hard over some of the other antics.

In the late 90's, the music became a dirge, and it all seemed to be about surviving AIDS. So I stopped going.

I gather that it's all about Truth to Power and Gay Marriage these days, which doesn't strike me as any fun, either.

But it is true that Gay Pride was once a really fun event for straight guys. It's a nice change to be able to turn to the woman next to you and say, "wowza, that babe over there is built like a burlap bag full of bobcats -- she's got it TOO-gether!" and hear, "you ain't kiddin', brother" in response.

bbeck-
Right back at ya on that "thank you". Well said.

Warden-
To answer your question, I've been in a monogamous relationship since 1988 (hard to believe) so I don't know much about dating nowadays.

What I do remember, when I was young and wild and free was that I didn't discuss politics much while dating. I idolized Reagan (the first person I had the honor of voting for), and most gays at the time were blaming him for the AIDs outbreak. Imagine, if you will, gay men in the bathhouses having unsafe sex with multiple partners all night and then going to the "pride" parade the next day and blaming Ronald Reagan for the plague. This was after we knew how it was transmitted. I recall several occasions when I was dismissed as "uptight" for refusing to get it on without a condom.

Hypocrisy just doesn't seem to cover it.
Needless to say, I don't have a lot of love for the "gay leaders" that claim to speak for all of us.

Yeah, these straight liberal men have got to go. When I'm in a gay club, I like to assume everyone else is gay as well (males, I mean. We know most of the females are straight and god awful desperate).

Over the past few years, these emasculated fops are making dating that much more difficult. Now when you're groped in public, you never know if the guy likes ya, or he's merely exercising some sort of creepy liberal affirmation. What ever happened to giving someone a thumb's up and saying "I think it's super!" It worked for the rest of the straight men in my family.

The worst, the absolute worst, is when you're drunk or dancing or having fun, and suddenly they want to talk to you about homosexuality. Like they're on assignment from National Geographic and are merely surveying the scene, seeing us live in our natural habitat, and they'll report back in the morning to earn their credentials.

Luckily, saying "I voted for Bush," makes them go away 9 out of 10 times.

No idea what pride was about this year. I was tanked very early on. It's the only thing that makes the festival bearable.

When I want people to leave me alone at parties (yeah, I know, work with me here), I tell them I sell life insurance.

King of the Hill. Gay Rodeo episode. Just experimenting to see if Ace's postings can be referrenced back to KOTH.

Ace, methinks you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The way I read the caption, it contrasted "drag queens" (i.e., men dressed as women) with "straight guys" (men dressed as men). Since it is a photo caption, it must be read in conjunction with the photo, which *clearly* was not of heterosexual men.

Pretty stupid to call homosexuals who are not dressed as womeen "straight guys," but that's what it was: they were not trying to say that heterosexual men were turning out en masse for the event.

Who took this "covergirl" shot of Gay Pride? The Gay Pride parades I've seen pictures of are the best advertisement against gay marriage there ever was. And remember all those shots of two balding, ugly, middle-aged old guys kissing? Yikes!

It had to be:

1) One of those gays (and there are quite a few) who honestly believe that everyone is gay, and that only those who express their gayness have the "courage" to do so.

And is trying to entice us all by making them look good.