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May 20, 2005

Howard Dean On the Presumption of Innocence

RCL, who is amazing at remembering and finding these compare and contrast quotes, uncorks another great one.

Howard Dean thinks Tom DeLay should go directly to jail:

...Dean declared: ''I think DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence down there courtesy of the Texas taxpayers.'' Dean would jail DeLay without trial, without indictment and without accusation of any crime...

But he was far more reticent to declare Osama bin Ladin guilty before being adjudged so by a competent tribunal:


...Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean will not pronounce Osama bin Laden guilty before a trial...

It's easy to make too much of this, so that's why I'm going to do so. Because it's easy.

But in all seriousness, there are many on the left who consider domestic political rivals to be the real, actual enemy, whereas our murderous sworn foreign enemies are a somewhat "fictitious" threat.

Dean is very careful not to offend foreign sensibilities in "pre-judging" the admitted mass-murderer Osama bin Ladin, but that sort of care is nowhere to be found in his pronouncements regarding domestic political opponents.

I don't think this says everything about the left. But I do think it says something. There are silly and trivial people and there are more serious-minded folk.

I may write a stupid moronblog, but I'm always able to keep clear in my mind who the actual enemies are and who the mere domestic annoyances are.

I wish more on the left were capable of making this not-so-fine distinction.


posted by Ace at 10:52 AM
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When you are desperate, you get a little more hysterical and turn the volume up to "11". Since I think they are going to lose more ground (this fight over filibustering judicial nominees, for example), I think they're going to get worse.

If they ever figure out this is causing their ranks to dwindle and not grow, then we'll have a problem.

But we'll be playing nicer.

Posted by: Dave in Texas on May 20, 2005 11:05 AM

Good point Dave.

If Dems thought they'd be regaining the majority soon, they would act like it.

They'd practice a little give-and-take with the other side, knowing that obstructionism will be repaid in kind when the shoe is on the other foot.

Posted by: lauraw on May 20, 2005 11:11 AM

What was that slogan I saw floating around a while back... "No War But Class War" I think.

Posted by: Alex_fs on May 20, 2005 03:02 PM

What about that article not so long ago where the writer complains about the Right's tendancy to throw one's previous quotes back into their face...and how utterly tactless and vulgar it was if you did that...?

Ace, you're just so...tactless!

YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!!

Posted by: Wanderlust on May 21, 2005 10:55 PM

Actually Mr. Dean may be on to something!

For Immediate Release

For World Wide Release via the Internet

Contact: Steven L. Reed 417-866-4453

organizingdemocratsandlabor@hotmail.com

www.draftkreideruscongress.org

Paperwork has been mailed to the Federal Election Commission, (FEC FORM 1 STATEMENT OF ORGANIZATON), to form a non-connected committee called Draft Kreider US Congress.

FOUNDER Steven Reed of Springfield who has known Jim Kreider for years and helped on all of his campaigns for State Representative except the first one, stated, “When he was in office he responded to the people directly. He is a people person who is in touch with the citizens of southwest Missouri”.

"Jim Kreider as a State Representative and as Missouri House Speaker was always in contact with the people. He was and is a REAL PEOPLE PERSON--who wants to see the government do its job and he worked to cut taxes in Missouri," says CO-FOUNDER Jeff Kenkel restaurant owner and housing developer of Ozark.

It has been said when there is a need to be filled the people have a duty to reach out to those who have the abilities to succeed in filling that need. If there ever was a need and opportunity for someone to replace Roy Blunt in the U.S. Congress that need is NOW. Jim Kreider has the abilities and experience to succeed in filling that need and the people hope to help him decide to seize the opportunity.

Roy Blunt’s stands on Social Security and other issues have caused many to wonder if he has lost touch with the people. A lot of people are beginning to wonder if maybe there is more to Tom Delay and Roy Blunt than just being buddies.

In the last few years Roy Blunt has let money and power take over his thought patterns and he has lost touch with the people of the 7th District. Even Reuters ran a story on Sunday April 17, 2005 which quoted Roy Blunt as saying “Tom Delay will stay as leader---the number 3 Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives. "Roy Blunt and Tom Delay are morphing into one name and the corruption and possible indictments are turning people off all across the United States and the world as far as that goes," according to Steven Reed.

“Ask people in Missouri or across the nation, what they don’t like about politics and they will tell you money, power, and corruption according to Reed. And these guys are becoming the Poster Children for those things and its becoming embarrassing they are still running the country. There are likely more people investigating possible felony indictments of Tom Delay than the USA has people looking for Ben Laden.” Reed says.

People need to go to Google where there are about 73,400 references for roy blunt tom delay. Then you have Matt Blunt the Missouri Governor who has cut 100,000 people off Medicaid including seniors and those with disabilities. “I would not want the name Blunt

right now because a lot of people are becoming furious with their actions” according to Reed.

Here is some of what Congressman Roy Blunt is doing:

- Roy Blunt has taken $16,019 from Tom DeLay's ARMPAC. No surprise that Blunt voted with Tom Delay 77% of the time between Jan. 1, 2004 and March 31, 2005.

- Roy Blunt voted to weaken the ethics rules in a move that many say served only to protect Tom DeLay.

- When Democrats offered a solution to clean up the House by strengthening ethics rules, Roy Blunt voted to make sure it never even came to an up or down vote.

- Roy Blunt voted to allow DeLay to continue serving as Leader even if he is indicted.

- Tom DeLay has been admonished three times for his unethical behavior, yet Roy Blunt gave DeLay's legal fund $20,000 to help defend him. (Source: Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee)


Instead of making sure our troops fighting overseas receive proper support, he offered an amendment to a spending bill for the Iraq War that benefited UPS and FedEx. Some say he chose corporations over soldiers for son Andrew who is a UPS lobbyist in Jefferson City.

Instead of offering an amendment to a homeland security bill, that had something to do with homeland security, Roy Blunt chose to insert a last-minute provision favored by Philip Morris.

Some say Blunt chose the money cents of Philip Morris lobbyist Abigail Perlman over the common sense of his faithful wife. In case you hadn’t heard, Blunt divorced the mother of his children and is now married to the previous (precious) tobacco lobbyist.

Norman Ornstein, of the conservative American Enterprise Institute said, "you really do run into a problem at a point where you're not just defending DeLay but you're wrapping yourself in his ethics."

When asked by Tim Russert of Meet the Press if Tom Delay has done anything wrong, Blunt responded in a very direct manner. “My impression is he has not done anything wrong,” Blunt said.

Reports show Tom Delay’s Legal Defense fund received from Blunt’s staffers a lot of money from Jan. 1 to March 31. Delay received $500 a peice from four aides in Blunt’s leadership office-Mildred Webber, Amy Steinmann, Brian Gaston and Sam Geduldig. Keri Ann Hayes, the executive director of Blunt’s Rely on Your Beliefs PAC, also kicked in $500, while Amy Filed, Blunt’s personal office chief of staff, gave $250.

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