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May 18, 2005

The Way The Times... Surrounds A Story About "Weapons in Space"

A thourough debunking of the Times' latest hysteria over weapons in space from DefenseTech.

According to DT, the Times conflates pie-in-the-sky and very theoretical (and unlikely) weapons systems with more practical and likely ones, all in the service of giving its liberal readers something to whine about over cocktails.*

*At least that's my interpretation. DT doesn't quite share my politics, I don't think, particularly on SDI.


posted by Ace at 12:30 PM
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Well, I notice my old friend Thor - renamed, naturally - on the list. Check the attack sequence from Footfall.

It's more than possible to deploy Thor. I don't know enough about the technicalities of laser platforms. But Thor ought to have been developed a long time ago.

The hyperventilation on the part of the Times is boring. What do they want, everyone to stand around holding hands and singing kumbayah?

Posted by: Dianna on May 18, 2005 12:48 PM

Kymbayah? Are you kidding.

That song mentions God! We can't have that at the New York Times. Start singing Kumbayah and the next thing you know the theocrats are storming the castle.

Posted by: Slublog on May 18, 2005 12:50 PM

Times & Histeria. Amazing how easily these two words blend together. Kinda like chocolate and raisins.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba on May 18, 2005 12:53 PM

Space-based weapons platforms are a critical part of the national defense infrastructure, but I still think that their main value will come in terms of providing defensive rather than offensive capability. The "brilliant pebbles" concept is still the best way I can think of to intercept inbound MIRVs from an inbound ballistic missile.

But even for offense, it can provide for a devastating but non-nuclear weapon: the kinetic "mass driver" weapon where a large inert mass is rammed into a target point. Think of something the size of a cinderblock, made out of titanium or depleted uranium, fired from an orbital platform at a bunker or underground lab. This object would strike the target at orbital velocities, converting much of its own mass to energy and thus destructive potential. You'd get the destructive force and penetration of a nuclear weapon without the side-effects.

Our aviation forces have already used this "mass driver" concept on a smaller scale by dropping large concrete "bombs" on safehouses and hideouts in thickly populated areas. You pulverize the target itself without submitting everyone around to the blast effects of a conventional bomb.

Posted by: Monty on May 18, 2005 01:18 PM

But even for offense, it can provide for a devastating but non-nuclear weapon: the kinetic "mass driver" weapon where a large inert mass is rammed into a target point. Think of something the size of a cinderblock, made out of titanium or depleted uranium, fired from an orbital platform at a bunker or underground lab. This object would strike the target at orbital velocities, converting much of its own mass to energy and thus destructive potential. You'd get the destructive force and penetration of a nuclear weapon without the side-effects.

That's covered in the Times article and Defense Tech takes issue with the feasibility of the system.

I have no idea which of you is closer to right.

Posted by: ace on May 18, 2005 01:20 PM

Ace, check your gmail.

Posted by: A Friend on May 18, 2005 01:24 PM

Slu: the Left has rewritten the song, ages ago. It takes a few tries, but eventually you pick up the correct rhythm for:

Kumbayah, my deity, deities, metaphysical-earth-spirit or life-force, kumbayah...


Alternatively, you can just sub "Allah" for "Lord", because as you well know it's fine as long as you're not implying a Judeo-Christian basis.

Posted by: James on May 18, 2005 01:45 PM
I have no idea which of you is closer to right.
We've been using mass-driver weapons for years, just not ones delivered from space. The physics are straightforward; all we'd need are accurate targeting systems and a robust mass object. Concrete obviously woudn't work since it wouldn't survive re-entry into the atmosphere, but a high-density tungsten mass with an ablative coating would work quite well, I think.

The mass wouldn't have to be very big, either -- something the size of a softball delivered at orbital velocity (~1.7 km/sec) would deliver more energy to the target than a conventional weapon many times that size, but the blast effects would be reduced. You'd concentrate more energy on the target and less on dispersal effects.

I'd say the most difficult part of the mass-driver weapon is the targeting computation, but it's not notably more complicated than systems we have in use today on the ground (the Aegis weapons platform is a good example, and it's been in use for nearly twenty years).

Posted by: Monty on May 18, 2005 02:37 PM
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