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May 18, 2005

Norman Mailer: Not Only Did Republicans Plant the Koran-Flush False Story, They Also Instigated the Riots

I'm beginning to become increasingly distresed to be linked by the Huffington Compost, which seems to be little else but vapid posts about nothing at all or else batshit-crazy screeds by certifiable lunatics:

At present, I have a few thoughts I can certainly not prove, but the gaffe over the Michael Isikoff story in Newsweek concerning the Koran and the toilet is redolent with bad odor. Who, indeed, was Isikoff's supposedly reliable Pentagon source? One's counter-espionage hackles rise. If you want to discredit a Dan Rather or a Newsweek crew, just feed them false information from a hitherto reliable source. You learn that in Intelligence 101A.

...

As for the riots at the other end, on this occasion, they, too, could have been orchestrated. We do have agents in Pakistan, after all, not to mention Afghanistan.

Obviously, I can offer no proof of any of the above.

Shut up, really?

There still resides, however, under my aging novelist's pate a volunteer intelligence agent, sadly manque. He does suggest that the outcome was too neat. It came out too effectively for one side, one special side. At the age of eighty-two I do not wish to revive old paranoia, but Lenin did leave us one valuable notion, one, at any rate. It was "Whom?" When you cannot understand a curious matter, ask yourself, "Whom? Whom does this benefit?" Dare I suggest that our Right has just gained a good deal by way of this matter? In every covert Department of Dirty Tricks, whether official, semi-official, or off-the-wall, great pride is best obtained by going real deep into down-and-dirty-land—Yeah! Expedite the consequences.

See the Day By Day Cartoon below.

I think Chris Muir needs to update.

RNC Dirty-Tricksters Disguised As Muslims Provoked Riots in Afghanistan and Pakistan-- It Might Be True (R)!

Thanks, I suppose, to Chickpea. Although this sort of lunatic paranoia is dispiriting.

I am almost filled with heart-ache, I don't mind confessing.


posted by Ace at 12:11 PM
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I believe that "Norman Mailer" is actually Osama bin Laden's nom de plume.

I can't prove it, of course, but no-one's ever seen them in the same room at the same time. Suspicious, no?

Also, his father was probably Hitler.

Posted by: Pompous on May 18, 2005 12:16 PM
I'm beginning to become increasingly distresed to be linked by the Huffington Compost, which seems to be nothing but vapid posts about nothing at all or else batshit-crazy screeds by certifiable lunatics

Yeah, I totally agree. I especially that vomit posted by ass-hats like John Fund, James Pinkerton, and Eugene Volokh.

Posted by: on May 18, 2005 12:20 PM

Tinfoil hats ahoy!

Posted by: fat kid on May 18, 2005 12:20 PM

At the age of eighty-two I do not wish to revive old paranoia, but Lenin did leave us one valuable notion, one, at any rate.

Now, why do I find it hard to believe that Norman Mailer only finds one of Lenin's notions valuable?

Posted by: Sean M. on May 18, 2005 12:23 PM

Can Mailer even suggest a motive why exactly we'd want to instigate riots against us in a foreign country?

Posted by: Moonbat_One on May 18, 2005 12:26 PM

When you cannot understand a curious matter, ask yourself, "Whom? Whom does this benefit?"

Ah, the question that launched a thousand conspiracy theories.

Surprised that a genius like Mailer finds this matter so curious that he cannot understand it. Really? You can't understand that rushing to run stories from unreliable anonymous sources can be a recipe for disaster?

That IS curious.

Posted by: lauraw on May 18, 2005 12:30 PM

Perhaps he should ask "Who? Whom does this benefit?" of Newsweek's original sham article, too.

Who did that benefit?

It benefited Muslim extremists. It benefited Al Qaeda. It benefited the media's owned-and-operated political wing, the Democratic Party.

Why does his "Who? Whom does this benefit?" question only get asked about some subjects and not others?

The right has been pretty careful not to claim (outright, at least not seriously) that Al-Newsweek really intended to harm American security interests.

But if we're in the "whom does this benefit?" conspiracy-theorizing mode, well, I guess it's a fair question, ay?

Posted by: ace on May 18, 2005 12:34 PM

It all makes perfect sense to me. Bush, in order to ensure his re-election and get his hands on some oil, stages the WTC terrorist attack. When the rioters, who it just so happens are actually undercover U.S. special forces, in Iraq and throughout the Muslim world, need provocation for killing more of the oil holding Middle Eastern population, the Republicans figure out a way to start riots and kill more Muslims, all the while blaming it on the left. How can anything this blindingly obvious be called a conspiracy? Oooooo! Wait! I'll. Bet. The. Terrorists. Are. Really. U.S. Special Forces too!!! They kill just enough of our own guys to make it look like they're not! Oh yeah!! Damned skippy!!

It's so brilliant that I'd bet I could have come up with it even if I weren't higher than a satellite!

Posted by: compos mentis on May 18, 2005 12:43 PM

btw, did you forget to tip vonkreedon at the coffee shop this morning?
he's real bitchy today

Posted by: lauraw on May 18, 2005 12:43 PM
There still resides, however, under my aging novelist's pate a volunteer intelligence agent, sadly manque.

Wow, "pate" and "manque" in one sentence. I guess I have no choice to believe everything this person says, since they're clearly a super-genius.

Posted by: Bob on May 18, 2005 01:20 PM

Sooo... response to baseless, unprovable allegations that provoke deadly riots: baseless, unprovable allegations that the whole thing is a set-up. Nice.

Posted by: James on May 18, 2005 01:39 PM

If you knew anything about our history - you would know that all of the riots in Iran that toppled Mossadegh in 1953 were bought and paid for by the CIA. Its not beyond the realm of possibility.

Posted by: history on May 18, 2005 01:43 PM

Moonbat_One:

Here's an answer - the riots will lead to fear, fear will lead to anger, which will lead to hate which will lead to another

Halliburton War for Blood 'n' Oil! Yeearrgh!!

That's my take. Your mileage may very.

Posted by: Mikey on May 18, 2005 01:51 PM

I worked in an Internet directory with a bunch of liberal intellectual left leaners and everytime we had corruption at any level it always came with a story of how it wasn't what it seemed and must be exactly opposite caused by those doing the catching of the corruption, after all, how did they find out about it? Thus if you found it and reported it, you must have planted it in order to serve some higher cause or purpose, or simply you must be corrupt yourself. So hence your finding corruption meant you were corrupt. Luckily there were enough of us normal folk at the time to point out that they sure seemed to have an abnormally large amount of black helicopters circling them at any given time. But it gets old when everything they see and read has deep hidden meaning and is always a part of a secret plot aimed at them and those around them by one of ...gasp... --us--.

Posted by: Dayna on May 18, 2005 02:10 PM
"Whom? Whom does this benefit?"
Islamonuts, of course.

Hey, Isikoff is a secret convert to Islam who's manipulating the media from the inside!

Posted by: someone on May 18, 2005 02:35 PM

Personally, I blame all the spy/espionage thrillers of the last twenty years or so. 'Cause all these batshit crazy theories are basically the plot of Long Kiss Goodnight with less Samuel L. Jackson and Geena Davis.

Posted by: Alex_fs on May 18, 2005 02:46 PM

Lenin's question was actually "Who, whom?" (as in, "Who will defeat whom?") -- so Mailer is full of it even on that count.

Posted by: Stumbo on May 18, 2005 03:33 PM


In The Naked and the Dead there is a wonderful scene in which Mailer is drunk. The immediacy and the feel show that it was obviously written by someone who really was drunk at the time. He describes it as being under water, feeling the eddies currents move this way and that, feeling numb and apart from everything.

Apparently he hasn't left that place and at 82 is still quoting Lenin666. What a horses ass!


Posted by: 72V on May 18, 2005 03:37 PM

In the intro to The Armies of the Night Mailer proudly quotes the NYT about his performance at a rally:

"He stumbled up to the stage and clambered aboard, never letting go of his coffe cup full of scotch. 'I don't want to granstand,' he said grandly but hardly standing, but blah, blah, blah ... "

The last time I heard from Mailer was on an interview with Sean Hannity this year. He was obviously drunk again and Hannity cut him to ribbons. As he once said of his own schtick: "It is not given to the hipster to age gracefully." For once, he has proven himself to be right about something.

Posted by: mailerphobe on May 18, 2005 04:50 PM

Omigod!

Cedarford is NORMAN MAILER!!!!

Who knew?

Posted by: Pixy Misa on May 18, 2005 09:56 PM

ok -- lemme get this straight:

there really *are* no Islamonutters - in fact no Muslims at all. All of those AK-waving, dancing-in-the-streets, screeching, flag-burning maniacs are actually CIA/ETC operatives, even the ones in Gitmo. On *both* sides of the bars. This is all an elaborately staged ruse to manipulate the American Consumer into .... whaaa?

my. head. hurts.

Posted by: Claire on May 22, 2005 11:32 AM

> If you want to discredit a Dan Rather or a Newsweek crew, just feed them false information from a hitherto reliable source

Umm, first off, Bill Burkett was a hitherto reliable source?

Second, "hitherto reliable"... Does this mean that perhaps the media might simply protect itself by ... GASP!!! ... verifying its stories more carefully!?!

Whodathunkit! A defense against those meretricious jesus freaks is... (again)GASP!!!... being CAREFUL about **checking FACTS**?

DAMN THEM! DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!

Oh, the humanity!!!

How can we expect modern journalists to actually CHECK FACTS!?!?

Where will the best stories come from? The finest innuendoes and slanders? The sweetest prevarications of half truths and sublimely perverted distortions!?!?

Those poor journalists could be limited to... reporting THE TRUTH?

SAY IT AIN'T SO, JOE!?

Posted by: Nick B on May 23, 2005 04:28 AM
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