"what value is dishonesty and craveness"---Ace.

I don't know about the dishonesty part, but the craveness part got InDC Bill an internet radio gig.

I guess we all know they're lying, and that they reallly would like to advance these "progressive" causes, but can't do to political considerations, and so they claim to be all moderate 'n stuff and against these hot-button initiatives.

That's "due" to, Ace.

Got it.

Look, I'm a first-draft kinda guy, you know?

"Hi, Ah'm Bill Clinton and Ah love to lick squeakholes. Especially men's."

/constitutionally protected parody

Bill Clinton is at his absolute worst when speaking to a "friendly" audience. His evil side comes through all-too-clear, and his petty, low-class vindictiveness is simply amazing to watch.

It's like gays owe him something and if they don't agree, then every part of their life is fair game. To be fair though, NPR ran with this story yesterday and couched it in the same he's-gay-but-Republican-isn't-that-odd tone. I guess Republicans do it, too, but I've yet to see such glaring examples as when a gay goes off the reservation.

Amen Ace. A-f'n-men. I was accused by my former lipstick-lesbian-knee-jerk-liberal roommate of being self-loathing when I explained to her that I'd be pullin the lever for Bush back in November. Maybe she was right though... I do find my eyes constantly wondering back to that "Dusty" ad.... Regardless, she's dead now and you summed up my thoughts and feelings exactly. Well done. And keep away from the handbags.

Now that Bill Clinton has offered himself up as an expert on the issue of "self loathing," I wonder if he could share his thoughts on this matter concerning women who stay married to serial adulters.

I'm all ears.

Yeah, Bill Clinton sucks...but what's going on in the world of Nanotech? That's what we really want to know.

Don't worry Ace-- a housemate of mine after college (straight guy, but very "pretty") assured us "you're only gay if you take it."

As for this posting, I have to give you props for this one:
"My entire political philosophy is informed by a strong urge to make strangers dislike me as quickly and as intensely as possible. "

You're batting a 1.000 today, my friend. Keep the wisdom coming.

Well, not a bunch, but given that it's a rare breed, I would guess I know about 75% of the entire Republican gay population of the United States.

I might know another 5% or so of them.

On a totally unrelated topic, I'm about 95% certain I just saw Virginia Pearcy - the Berkeley-Sacramento effigy-hanging lawyer - about an hour ago. I was coming out of a meeting at the office of a financial-services firm, which is located about three blocks away from her firm's office, and she was in a conference room that I walked past.

I stared, hard, but she didn't look away from the people she was talking to. Not much I could have done if I had been able to make eye contact, in the interests of professionalism and decorum, other than perhaps flash a quick sign of the "W" with my fingers and a wink, I guess.

Not-Surprising-At-All News Flash:

Usual Suspects Quiet

"you're only gay if you take it."

And you are a gay Republican if you give it AND take it!

I am SOOO a gay Republican.

Whoa, I think we have 85% of the nations gay rethugs posting in the comments here.

Ace?

Ah, self-loathing. It isn't an election cycle if my gay friends aren't tossing that word at me several times a day. You know who I get it worse from? My straight, white, liberal friends. They act almost . . . entitled to my vote. "But how can you vote for a party that hates you!?" they squeal.

As opposed to the party that, say, signed DOMA, uses gay baiting during elections when it suits their purposes, outs people who disagree, makes fag jokes about gay Republicans while claiming to be "ironic," disagrees strongly with gay marriage and homosexuality but mutters platitudes about "tolerance."

They loves me so very much.

Sometimes, the simplest comment gets through to a very few of them. "Why would who I fuck determine who I vote for?" Put that way, they almost realize how asinine they sound.

Self-loathing is being a mealy-mouthed lil automaton letting others doing the thinking for you.

Self-respect is thinking for yourself.

The difference, alas, is lost on many of them.

"Whoa, I think we have 85% of the nations gay rethugs posting in the comments here."

Good. That means that this site's property values will go up, and I'll get to sell my domain name at a premium to Restoration Hardware.

"Those people" are just silly for fuckin' milk-paint. Don't ask me why. It looks like shit.

Rob - I am convinced that only leather daddies and power-bottoms are Democrats.

The leather daddies need to feel superior and the bottoms need to feel like shit about themselves afterwards.

Of course, I could be wrong...

No new car? Damn cheapskate!

Hey, my reward is knowing Andrew Sullivan will have to have yet another "bandwidth fundraiser" to handle the demands of an Ace-O-lanche.

Where is the Starbucks around here, anyway?

Robert - I think you're confusing politics with fear. When you're a power-bottom, usually you're under the undue influence of fag hag extraordinaire, Margaret Cho. When they disagree, she eats them.

And let's face it, leathermen are merely a convention or two away from unionizing.

A-hem.

I really liked all the lesbian stuff we had here a week ago, but, uhhhh, it's not the same when you guys do it.

Tch. Ace, they only hang out here because they all secretly want to hit on you.

It's the price of fame, buddy. The price of fame.

Props for bringing up DOMA, Ace; Dems tend to forget who was responsible for the last federal initiative against gay marriage. And let's not forget that Bill dragged himself out of his hospital bed so he could advise Kerry to play to the middle with more gay-bashing.

That's the flaw in this whole nanotech/quasi-immortality scheme. The notion of listening to Clinton's poisonous blather for the next millenium makes me opt for death as a vastly preferable alternative.

*I'm talking about my own death, of course. Bill's so craven he'd choose immortality if he had to get there by bathing daily in the blood of Cub Scouts. In fairness, I'm sure he'd bite his lip while he was doing it.

Good. That means that this site's property values will go up, and I'll get to sell my domain name at a premium to Restoration Hardware.

Or have I just not been paying attention...

I don't care either way, just interesting - the only *out* gay guy I'm friends with would never frequent this site. Then again, he's in the Bush=Hitler camp, Seattle variety.

I must be a self-loathing white male to think that all people should be equal under the law.

A return to baronial privilege now!

(I could put the "von" back on my family name)

Folks named "Bill" seem to be really ugly when the mask slips. Even Bill Clinton.

Nice post, but kinda pitiful when you misspell 'mornoblog'

What is a moron who can't spell moron - a superduper moron?

On another note, Andrew Sullivan hits 'bottom' this time imo.

The Dusty Girl is dead?

You mean you guys don't have kinky-dirty little elves in your pants already????
Thats just normal????

Rob - how silly of me to get the two confused, but fear still works!

Ace -

A-hem.

I really liked all the lesbian stuff we had here a week ago, but, uhhhh, it's not the same when you guys do it.

So great, in fact, that sometimes I go into a coat-room with them and let them do stuff to me.

fuckin' homos.

I wish the Onion still had their archives open for free, so I could link that piece "Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Trying to Suck My Cock?"

Story of my life. Story. Of. My life.

http://www.robcamlive.com/humour/suckingmycock.html

I love a man that doth protest too much.

*runs out of blog screaming*

Whoa. Back the fuck up. The Dusty girl is dead?!

If a gay republican is self loathing, what's a Christian Democrat?

I've had so many people question my political affiliation because I'm gay, I've stopped listening. Many people are moronic enough to allow their sexual orientation, race or religion to dictate their political views. I try not to be one of them.

Yes, I'm gay. That's beside the point. I have more important things to talk about than my sexuality, like national security, education, the economy, and what time the Shield is on tonight.

I may be 22, but I'm old enough to be sick and tired of being bullied into class, race and gender wars by the political left, and I refuse to play ball. And not just because I'm a lesbian.

Hypocrisy

A fairly frequent visitor at Steamworks.

I'm just sayin' . . .

Damnit, mypost was supposed to be in answer to:

what's a Christian Democrat?

Whatever though, religions not my bag.

And finally, like Aubrey, I too am a lesbian. :P

I'm a lesbian too!

Let's get together and talk about lesbian-issues together... you know, hot-button issues like bathing one another, rubbing suntain oil into each other's backs, shaving...

All very controversial issues, but I'm not afraid to take those on.

Like a Sapphic Bill O'Reilly, I'm just lookin' out for "the folks."

Lesbians? On the internet?

No. Way.

Wait, wait.

No. Way.

I haven't met a lesbian on the internet since 1989. We were in Mrs. Hall's first grade class together. First she stole my Centurion action figures, then she stole my heart.

Ace, I have always felt like I was a lesbian trapped in a man's body. It is so liberating to find out that there is someone else like me.

Ace, I think it's about time for you to change your site name to Lesbienssontelles. I'm going to have better luck here than at your average bar any night of the week...

Megan, Ace of Spades HQ is a friendly, tolerant place where people discuss sports, music, the political events of the day, and lesbian poolside cocoa-butter sessions. I can accept that; it's just part of the strange, not to say bizarre, social evolution of the site.

But I never thought I'd see the day when French was used here. Really, some lines just shouldn't be crossed.

ahem.

I'm confused.

Megan, are you someone I sort of know?

And have you seen a shrink lately?

utron wrote: But I never thought I'd see the day when French was used here. Really, some lines just shouldn't be crossed.

A point well taken. I apologize; it was just intended as a riff on the website of another Megan who sometimes posts here. Still, as you correctly note, some things are beyond the pale.

ace wondered: Megan, are you someone I sort of know?

Not unless you think a couple of email exchanges means you know someone. :)

...and finally, CraigC asked: have you seen a shrink lately

I am a shrink, babe. Cheers. ;)

I was more sad for him.

We feel you pain ...

great. just fucking great.

Ace queers out and Dusty gets the yank.

Ace, your demographics are skewing a bit ton the "rainbow" end of the spectrum, and it's costing you man.

And costing us, your loyal, loving readership.

Jagoff.

Damn, now THAT's what I call results!

Click on this page one second, no Dusty. One second later; DUSTY!

Good job ace.

Let's pretend that jagoff comment never happened.

What's with the Dusty/no Dusty/Dusty is dead posts? Man, that is the main reason I come to this site; I swear I can feel the sensation of running my fingers across her velvety firm belly when I look at that picture.