I call bullshit.

That's the exact same ending to Tom Clancy's Sum of All Fears (the book, not the film/abortion).

They capture the Islamic terrorists responsible for nuking Denver, but since Colorado didn't have the death penalty (!!) or something like that, they extradite the terrorists to Saudi Arabia for a beheading.

Even money Sandy Berger got the idea from a book on tape, perhaps while listening to it at the National Archives.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Way to repeat that age-old adage of, "It must be Clinton's fault."

Economy in the shitter? It was Clinton's fault! He was getting blowjobs!

Islamic fundamentalist attacks the country? It was Clinton's fault! Did I mention that he was getting blown?

Education standards are going down? It was Clinton's fault! Remember those blowjobs?

Fargus,

Since you're here, please explain how Clinton's renditions of terrorists to SA or Syria were "just a tough way to deal with a serious threat," but Bush's continuation of the selfsame policy constitutes an egregious violation of human rights.

*crickets*

Bullshit! Clinton is just trying to hide his cowardice, his total incompetance and his crimes! As a treacherous coward (in other words a Liberal) he was afraid of Bin Laden because we'd foiled a plot by Osama to kill Clinton, and he knew that Saddam had tried to kill Bush '41. Bill Clinton let Bin Laden hit us five times (and did nothing even when Sudan offered him to us three times!) except to make us look foolish and impotent by depleting our supply of our cruise missles into empty buildings. When Bill pulled us out of Mogdishu (after he botched a rescue mission by refusing to allow the support they needed) Osama said in 1998 that he was was astonished at our weakness and encouraged to attack us again and again. The record is clear enough. To paraphrase Ann Coulter: it' all Clinton's fault!

One of the network talking heads, I think it was Jennings, was talking about this "outsourcing" one night (he actually called it outsourcing). He said something like, "...started and used by Bush I, remained in effect under Clinton, and used again by Bush II." As if Clinton was too noble to use it or something. I think more people than Monica want to fellate Bill Clinton.

Ace, I don't think Fargus is "here" at all.

Later,
bbeck

Sorry, I was at work before, and I left shortly after posting. But I thank y'all for questioning my mental acuity almost immediately.

To tell you the truth, I don't know all that much about the extraordinary rendition policy under either Clinton or Bush. I'm not really qualified to speak about that point, so I won't try.

My main point here, though, is that I dislike the type of rhetoric where instead of dealing with an issue that's going on right now, you'll throw out something only tangentially related, like Clinton's policies, and obscure the whole thing with talk of a bias, stuff like that. Like I said, Clinton may have been doing the same thing. I don't know, and I'm not qualified to talk about it (though I'd like to read some about it). But the issue that's coming up is the sanctioning of torture, either directly or by way of extraordinary rendition, and that issue gets lost when partisanship steps up to the fore.

And I've read just as many discreditings of the "Clinton was offered Bin Laden on a silver platter" story as I've heard it asserted that it's true. For what it's worth (and I'm sorry I don't have a link to post right now.....I'll look).